This is what I’m suggesting also. As a general statement, newer iOS versions do more work stretching older hardware more. In addition you made an astute observation about usage patterns changing.
that's how it works, especially in organizations like Apple, one of the most influential and powerful entity in the world. If you don't want to believe that these kind of things happen behind closed doors, then you clearly still live in a limited bubble and lack sense of reality. That's what most people suffer, so no worries, but that's the reason why these companies become more and more powerful each day and are able to screw us over and over, and most people even still defend them. Unfortunately you can't cure mental disability, or how is it called, Stockholm syndrome.
Again, not the case. My usage patterns didn’t change. Content consumption. And I will go even further: after iOS 12 decreased battery life by 30%, I attempted anything and everything to try to get it back. I said “well, as iOS 12 decreased it... is there anything I can do to further improve efficiency and try to get at least some of that battery life back?”. So, as a fun experiment, I tried.
I have an iPhone 6s on an iOS 10 version which is an earlier version than the throttled one. It has 63% health. It works perfectly. Nothing else to say.
My 6s died on ios 9 well before 1% battery for example, sometimes on 20% or above, had the phone for well over 3 years on ios 9 before going straight to ios 11, when i updated the phone did get a bit throttled but this never happened again.
I think of it this way. If Apple keeps degrading my product experience on purpose, do you think it's more likely that consumers keep buying Apple products knowing they are simply going to get screwed over again, or start switching over to another platform such as Android?
I used a 6s on iOS 9 for three years too and mine never died prematurely. There was a batch that was affected IIRC, perhaps you got one from that?
It wasn’t too bad. With moderate usage and cellular you could get around 6 hours if not updated. It wasn’t the best, but with light to moderate usage it was a full day phone.
Yeah, if you update far enough then all devices just plummet. I have my Xʀ on iOS 12 and it’s just perfect.
Performance improved, but battery life is still poor. This has always happened, and like you said, it was worse with 32-bit devices. iOS 15 and 16 are far enough for the Xs Max, and I reckon 16 is even worse than 15. 15 isn’t actually too terrible on the 11 series, funnily enough.
Yes, i had the affected batch but im not sure if/or in what extend it affected my battery, had a free replacement of battery though
. The thing is this happened also on my 4s which died sometimes at 40%.Thank you for this prescient comment. Apple is not perfect. But if Apple really wanted to make their phones obsolete, they would stop letting them update to the newest iOS. Compared to most other companies, Apple is much nicer to their customers.
I remember how much of a crappy experience this was for me in terms of launching apps, very stuttery animations and a very non fluid experience however it was the last punch in a few months of slowdowns. The other slowdowns were down to iOS upgrades which bit by bit made my iPhone 6S worse. I remember it initially as the phone that I couldn't work faster than - everything was slippery fast and it was like the phone was just waiting for me. Then upgrades - suddenly it would get up on the wrong side of the bed too often during the week, waiting for apps to open, clunky, stuttering animations - my finger always ahead of the phone having to repeat already done operations - it was a disappointing experience. Then the random shutdowns came (obviously from a battery that couldn't handle the power draws, and that's normal - batteries degrade eventually) and after the upgrade that fixed this (it truly did mostly fix the shutdowns) I was left with a phone that was just a husk of itself. I replaced the battery about 4 times in that phone and that just upgraded me back to iOS upgrades slowing me down rather than iOS upgrades AND a throttled CPU, so still a not great experience. And that kept it going for as long as possible as I couldn't really stomach the prices of new iPhones, approaching 800 to 900€ and more, and my 6S was in good condition. The idea of highlighting a change that would cripple a phones performance regularly would be logical in a decently open and transparent society. The fact that something as simple as a battery exchange could make a decent difference to the experience and the fact that just by looking at battery capacity and cycles information (which undoubtedly Apple already had) could easily signal to a user "Your battery isn't working as well as when it was new and we notice that you've experienced sudden shutdowns of your device. We recommend you to exchange your battery soon and in the meantime we'll reduce the performance of your phone to accommodate the lower battery performance."
Apple probably made that amount of $$$ in people buying new iphones to replace their slowed down one in the belief that there was a major problem with their iphone.
Last year I opted to get the battery replaced by Apple in my xs max. After the repair, to me, it felt like the phone on day 1. The reason for the battery replacement is the phone was shutting off randomly when the battery SOC got below 30%.Yes, i had the affected batch but im not sure if/or in what extend it affected my battery, had a free replacement of battery though
Ill be changing my xs max battery later this week, lets see how that goes. Though i know any unoficial battery replacement will trigger the battery not recognised message on settings and you cant see cycles and battery health. So im actually curious, what happens with the battery/performance management? It wont probably ever trigger right?
With my 6s I ultimately got the battery replaced free of charge by apple. At that performance was back to what it was. I really didn’t fret about “the throttling”. To me I was taken care of by apple.
The above thoughts are just not rational.
So your anecdotal experience in a 5 person company where a it director who should have been fired scales up to apple?
They could have been more transparent but as some rub their hands in glee and loudly proclaim apple paid.
I WISH Apple did this. Imagine having the original version forever and nothing ever being able to force you out. A dream.
Same here, but that was AFTER the controversy and undoubtedly Apple were having to save face at that stage. So the battery change was free as a good will gesture.
I don't see what rationality has to do with my comments here. Its a given in a system of competition and greed where quarterly sales figures are one of the most important reasons shareholders buy your stocks. Shareholders don't flock to your company when they hear you DON'T want to sell stuff but just repair it for 1/8 of the price, and drop factory production by 70% (Ironically that would be the RIGHT thing to do today considering our environment, and our devastating consumption). This is just the basis of our system, this is the rationality of our system.
He was the owner so unfortunately wasn't too interested in firing himself. Equally if you wanted to keep your job, you were best to keep your mouth shut. How many times have you heard of large established companies who push their employees to do up-selling of utterly useless options to customers who don't need them because in place there are commission structures for selling more, attaching more to a deal and avoiding replacements. It happens for tech, appliances, vehicles and that's just a few examples that come to mind. I don't mean to generalise on these forums but I bet we're all aware in the tech space of a piece of hardware becoming obsolete pretty quick and a battery, board or screen replacement being about 2/3 the price of a new machine, hence pushing the consumer to get the latest and greatest (and creating even more resource depletion). Its the way our system works, and its CERTAINLY the way Apple works (they have been by far the worst company for repairability) - and that's well established.
This whole statement here is what I assume Apple thought as well and why they added the battery protection software. Most people didn't realize their battery was deteriorating and most people never noticed any performance hit. What people did notice was their phone suddenly shutting off because of high draw on the battery. Then they'd take it to Apple and, imagine that, nothing could be found wrong with the device. So instead of having a bunch of people traveling to Apple stores and leaving with no resolution, they figured out that they were getting power spikes and pushed an update to mitigate that. Should they have been transparent about that? I think that one is a matter of opinion. OS's do plenty of things that I don't feel a need to know about. This was yet another one. Slow my processor down to keep the device from over-drawing and crashing? Sure yeah, my computer does the same thing. No one complains about that. It's a safety feature because crashing the OS isn't healthy for it.
