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thejadedmonkey

macrumors G3
May 28, 2005
9,234
3,483
Pennsylvania
Wow...isn't that a load of bs. I would like you to show me proof that your iPad 2 runs slower on iOS 6 than it did in iOS4. I seriously doubt that apple deliberately made the os run slower on older devices. If anything my iPad 2 runs much faster in iOS 6 than it did in 4.

I stopped using my 2nd generation iPod Touch as the latest OS for it made it too slow to be usable.
 

thestickman

macrumors regular
Nov 21, 2010
219
18
Jacksonville, FL
For me, I think Apple's products are amazing. I am glad they are around (when they are freaking available of course) for me to buy & use.

What bothers me is the lack of communication within Apple itself regarding when products like the new line of Mini's will actually be in the stores. That there still isn't a new Mini in a Apple store in the state of Florida is astounding to me. Oh they managed to get the new retina MPB's in just fine. SMH... Add to that the reality folks in the Apple stores were told NOTHING about when new lines would be arriving for customers (like me) to purchase. I don't blame the good people working in the stores for this. I blame the folks much farther up the food chain.

No one knows what they should know about when products, that were announced as "ready to ship" will be shipped.

IMO, it's a bad sign for Apple. Brilliant design & awesome products are wonderful ONLY if customers can get their hands on them to purchase OR are given ACCURATE information about when they can do so.
 

Ariii

macrumors 6502a
Jan 26, 2012
681
9
Chicago
Show me innovation in any of the latest Apple products and Ill show you a product that did it first and cheaper. I love premium products but IOS feels like Windows 98 compared to other mobile OS's. iPad mini is a joke, Iphone 5 has LTE and a larger screen but still a joke none-the-less to iphone 4s users and shows nothing but greed during a time that consumers don't think on their own. Latest and greatest is Apple's only key to the market and they have unlocked all the doors. **** Apple!

Apple has given a lot to be frustrated about. That's not it, though. It's the desktop users that actually have something to be frustrated about. Since most tablet makers have been a wonderful alternative to what Apple puts out there, most people have a choice. Mac OS X, however, has many features that people aren't really seeing in other OS's. So, they still have to pay a much larger price for un-updated machines, and they've been choosing Apple for over a decade.
 

nuckinfutz

macrumors 603
Jul 3, 2002
5,542
406
Middle Earth
It's a tablet (minus the touchscreen) on a stand. I don't see any innovation in that product.

Anything in the Universe can be distilled down and proclaimed to be lacking in innovation and boring.

Innovation is an opinion and highly subjective. It's undeniable that the iMac is innovative to at least one person on Earth.
 

mrsir2009

macrumors 604
Sep 17, 2009
7,505
156
Melbourne, Australia
Please explain more. Fusion Drives sound pretty interesting.

As explained in the keynote, the Fusion Drive is a 1TB hard disk drive + 128GB SSD. The operating system, core applications and the most used files/applications get put onto the SSD for faster access, while the rest of the files that aren't as speed sensitive get put on the 1TB hard disk drive. That is pretty much a hybrid drive. There are many hard drives on the market that have combined SSD with HDD for better performance and storage space.
 

OllyW

Moderator
Staff member
Oct 11, 2005
17,196
6,800
The Black Country, England
As explained in the keynote, the Fusion Drive is a 1TB hard disk drive + 128GB SSD. The operating system, core applications and the most used files/applications get put onto the SSD for faster access, while the rest of the files that aren't as speed sensitive get put on the 1TB hard disk drive. That is pretty much a hybrid drive. There are many hard drives on the market that have combined SSD with HDD for better performance and storage space.

But allegedly Apple's New 'Fusion Drive' Not a Typical Hybrid Drive.
 

roadbloc

macrumors G3
Aug 24, 2009
8,784
215
UK
Yawn. Don't like it, don't buy it. No need for another Apple hate thread. Of course Apple loves your money. They always have done.
 

smoledman

macrumors 68000
Oct 17, 2011
1,943
364
Show me innovation in any of the latest Apple products and Ill show you a product that did it first and cheaper. I love premium products but IOS feels like Windows 98 compared to other mobile OS's. iPad mini is a joke, Iphone 5 has LTE and a larger screen but still a joke none-the-less to iphone 4s users and shows nothing but greed during a time that consumers don't think on their own. Latest and greatest is Apple's only key to the market and they have unlocked all the doors. **** Apple!

* Retina Display on the iPad 3 providing super sharp text for the first time.
* Airplay and Mirroring(industry firsts really)
* Airport Express is a nifty networking device to enable Airplay to powered speakers
* Passbook I guess?

But yeah I feel these days the biggest innovations are coming from Google, Intel, Microsoft, Amazon.

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So that's this year. Apple has continued to define how you compute at home...at work...on the go. Yeah, these are all improvements on existing products, but the improvements themselves are delivering innovative enhancements that make these machines better.

But where do they go from there? They own the tablet market (which they created) and they continue to dominate smartphones and MP3 players while gaining ground in the home computer market. But what's the next big thing? Probably integrating home computers and home media centers. Watch this site...an Apple television and/or Apple "cable" box and/or totally different Apple TV will be the next way that this company changes the world.

Wrong, I think with the MS Surface they are defining computing now. No longer is it a tablet OR a laptop. Microsoft has single handedly made the hybrid popular. Sure they didn't invent it(Asus Transformer Prime) but look at the crowds of people lining up at MS Stores to buy thing underpowered/underapped thing.

Industrial design is king. I'm sure Johnny Ive is peeved he didn't think of VaporMg.
 

Rogifan

macrumors Penryn
Nov 14, 2011
24,724
32,184
Wrong, I think with the MS Surface they are defining computing now. No longer is it a tablet OR a laptop. Microsoft has single handedly made the hybrid popular. Sure they didn't invent it(Asus Transformer Prime) but look at the crowds of people lining up at MS Stores to buy thing underpowered/underapped thing.

Industrial design is king. I'm sure Johnny Ive is peeved he didn't think of VaporMg.

Yeah lining up in droves. :D

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dmelgar

macrumors 68000
Apr 29, 2005
1,588
168
Show me innovation in any of the latest Apple products and Ill show you a product that did it first and cheaper. I love premium products but IOS feels like Windows 98 compared to other mobile OS's. iPad mini is a joke, Iphone 5 has LTE and a larger screen but still a joke none-the-less to iphone 4s users and shows nothing but greed during a time that consumers don't think on their own. Latest and greatest is Apple's only key to the market and they have unlocked all the doors. **** Apple!

Do we really need yet another apple is doomed thread? Can't these all merged?

I struggle to understand all this pessimism. The iphone 5 in particular is very clearly a huge change and improvement. Yet folks don't see it.

I think it's strictly the distortion reality field is failing. Non technical people do not understand the new products are different because Steve Jobs is no longer there to explain it to them in simple understandable terms.

Steve used to focus on simple user scenarios. Showed the clear benefit to people who couldn't understand the technical details and didn't want to. Jobs sitting in a chair on stage during the iPad announce. Now Tim et.al. fall into the spec trap.

There's no way to convince people that the products are new and better because their favorite person who personified apple is gone and no one else can explain it as well.

Bottom line, I think the iphone 5 is clearly a huge improvement over the 4s, yet people don't see it.
 

LizKat

macrumors 604
Aug 5, 2004
6,770
36,279
Catskill Mountains
It's a different culture at Apple since Steve.

It's a different culture at MacRumors, ever since so many trolls started posting threads that quickly become just so much flotsam and jetsam, get waterlogged after a few hours and then sink to the bottom, only to be replaced by yet another set of wasteland-ready threads, ad infinitum.

The band Outrageous Cherry once did a song titled "What have you invented today?"

It's a great question to ask an Apple-bashing troll when you get the chance.

Two possible answers: spurious complaints and exaggerated tales of woe.
 

smoledman

macrumors 68000
Oct 17, 2011
1,943
364
Let's see Apple shrinks the iMac from 15mm to 5mm and that's not innovation? Reversible connector for iDevices? Mirroring and AirPlay?

You trolls need to retire.
 

roadbloc

macrumors G3
Aug 24, 2009
8,784
215
UK
Let's see Apple shrinks the iMac from 15mm to 5mm and that's not innovation?

Never understood why they felt the need to do that anyway. The iMac is a desktop computer. I'm not going to be picking it up on a regular basis. And by thinning it down, still using laptop GPUs, removing certain hardware features and removing RAM slots, Apple have lost my sale unfortunately.

Is thinness really innovation? In a laptop, I'd say yes. A desktop, it is nice, but really not needed and deffo not worth £2000+.
 

smoledman

macrumors 68000
Oct 17, 2011
1,943
364
Never understood why they felt the need to do that anyway. The iMac is a desktop computer. I'm not going to be picking it up on a regular basis. And by thinning it down, still using laptop GPUs, removing certain hardware features and removing RAM slots, Apple have lost my sale unfortunately.

Is thinness really innovation? In a laptop, I'd say yes. A desktop, it is nice, but really not needed and deffo not worth £2000+.

Apple's SoC designs are widely regarded as tops in the industry. Also the magsafe connector, AirPlay, Mirroring, Exposes, Spaces, dictation, Siri, Thunderbolt, liquidmetal, FusionDrive, on and on.
 

Tech198

Cancelled
Mar 21, 2011
15,915
2,151
Apple stuff

In this day and age of Apple innovating new stuff like Retina display, and thin design, its strange all this time they still can't get the screens on their Mac's and tablets/phones "finger print resistant"

Wonder if they ever will?

I'm just waiting for this one ...

(Thats probably why Apple includes the cloth with their products), but they don't need do if the screens would only resist smudges & fingerings/dirt etc..

oh well...
 

noteple

macrumors 68000
Aug 30, 2011
1,527
549
In this day and age of Apple innovating new stuff like Retina display, and thin design, its strange all this time they still can't get the screens on their Mac's and tablets/phones "finger print resistant"

Wonder if they ever will?

I'm just waiting for this one ...

(Thats probably why Apple includes the cloth with their products), but they don't need do if the screens would only resist smudges & fingerings/dirt etc..

oh well...

The iPhone 3GS was the first Apple device to sport an oleophobic coating.

Some phones that have had cracked screens replaced with something other than an Apple part would not get that coating.

As far as a cloth is concerned.
You are not supposed to be poking at your laptop screen, that's what the trackpad is for.

If its really a bad issue, you might want to consider washing your hands.
 
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