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As has been mentioned before, items 1 and 2 have nothing at all to do with anything "juvenile" or anything related to that. Items 5 and 10 are basically non-issues as item 5 actually makes it easier to copy something compared to what it was like before, and item 10 can be changed the first time and remains that way from that point. Items 6, 7, 8, and 9 are there, but only if someone actually decides to use them, meaning that if someone doesn't actually decide to use them then they aren't a factor as they aren't used and therefore aren't involved.

Now, all of that can be ignored of course and points could be stuck to simply on principle. But that doesn't change the reality of all those things.



Items 1 [Thick Bar at Top Of Screen] and 2 [Missing Progress Bar] exist as a direct result of Apple's insistence on the new UI which compromised pre-existing real estate to allow easier accessibility to said immature features.

So, yes, 1 and 2 are on-point.

BJ
 
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Items 1 [Thick Bar at Top Of Screen] and 2 [Missing Progress Bar] exist as a direct result of Apple's insistence on the new UI which compromised pre-existing real estate to allow easier accessibility to said immature features.

So, yes, 1 and 2 are on-point.

BJ
Contact icons were added to Messages back in iOS 9 or even 8. Voice messages and various other changes have been made over the iOS versions as well here and there. They aren't necessarily, let alone directly tied to "easier accessibility to said immature features"--neither the bar at the top of the screen nor missing progress bar have no relationship to any of those things at all, it's hard to even tie them to any of those things even if one wanted to. To top it off the missing progress bar is not missing in all cases, meaning that it could very well be a bug, or a change in behavior to only use it for larger messages and not shorter ones (which again, would be hard to tie to anything sticker or smiley or anything else related to that).


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I really cannot puzzle this thread out at all.

@boltjames you seem like a reasonable, measured person on every other topic but this one. I can see it it annoys you a lot but I can't work out why it's quite so extreme. I was insulting earlier in the thread and I quite regret it, for what it's worth.

I'm a fan but not a fanboy (see my posts on universal clipboard, OS X 1st party design quality and copy and paste in safari in iOS. The latter is so broken as to be nearly worthless imo) so it's not like I'm just ra-ra-ing Apple here.

Anyway, exiting this thread. It makes no sense.
I have to say that all of that seems to be quite on point.
 
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By default text field should be expanded and ready to type when you enter conversation. If you need any of multimedia option you press button on the left of the text field.

That's only thing I can say about iMessage. I don't use to any other than SMS over wifi
 
Contact icons were added to Messages back in iOS 9 or even 8. Voice messages and various other changes have been made over the iOS versions as well here and there. They aren't necessarily, let alone directly tied to "easier accessibility to said immature features"--neither the bar at the top of the screen nor missing progress bar have no relationship to any of those things at all, it's hard to even tie them to any of those things even if one wanted to. To top it off the missing progress bar is not missing in all cases, meaning that it could very well be a bug, or a change in behavior to only use it for larger messages and not shorter ones (which again, would be hard to tie to anything sticker or smiley or anything else related to that).

As a 4AM line-waiting Day 1 early adopter of all things iOS I fully understand the transition of iMessage from its early SMS days to it's zenith in iOS 9. However, iOS 10 has crossed the line and has changed iMessage from a best-in-class texting app to a poor recreation of Snapchat. If Apple wants to take on Snapchat this much, they should just buy them, it's not like they don't have the money. The iPhone is a luxury item, not a child's plaything, and the more Apple diverts it's focus from high-end executive users the more they are going to lose customers.

BJ
 
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The sort of behavior exhibited in response in coping with the new iMessage makes its new balloon effects and whatnot seem a heck of a lot more mature and bearable in comparison.
 
The sort of behavior exhibited in response in coping with the new iMessage makes its new balloon effects and whatnot seem a heck of a lot more mature and bearable in comparison.

Agreed, apologies for my part, I shouldn't respond.

By default text field should be expanded and ready to type when you enter conversation. If you need any of multimedia option you press button on the left of the text field

Agreed, that's how the default should be. Hide the features for all allow them to be expanded for some.

I still believe Apple could simply implement the childish features as they do alternate keyboards. A tap and a press transforms Keyboard A to Keyboard B from that point forward for those who prefer Swype to Apple. Same thing can be done here.

BJ
 
Found another disappointing surprise this morning, when one composes a text in landscape mode there is a cursive button where the return button used to be, as I was writing a text I again jumped to this alternate experience no one needs. All for what? So my 12 year old daughter can write "he's so cute" in a fancy script? That's what alternate keyboards are for.

As the days go by things get worse for the important executive, not better.

BJ
 
What I don't like about the new iMessage is that if you have reduced animation turned on, it disabled the text and full screen effects. I mean how are those two things related? I was wondering why those options didn't show up on my phone.
 
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