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Crow_Servo

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Apple usually refresh iPads Pro line in the spring, then other iPads in the autumn? Refreshing both Pro and Air at the same time will be odd, as they will put the 11” iPads in direct competition and not necessarily to a Pro’s advantage? My guess is in the spring 2022 iPad Pro 11” will get an M2 and mini-LED, then iPad Air will follow in the autumn with an A16 and an OLED.
You haven't been following their scattered release patterns unfortunately. There is no set time of year that Apple releases Air or Pro.

With Air 3, it was spring 2019. With Air 4, it was fall 2020. It was more about an 18 month gap than a set release time.

The Pro is all over the place. The original was fall 2015, the 9.7" was spring 2016, then the next ones were in summer 2017, followed by new ones in fall 2018. Last year they came out in spring. This year they also came out in spring, but that's more because they needed to refresh them sooner than usual to update them from the older A12 series chip to the M1.

The Air is due next for an update, since it's now an outlier in regards to the front camera, and the Mini has upstaged it in the processor department. The Pros are in no need of an update anytime soon. Spring would be too early this tine around. Expect the next Pros in the fall of 2022, probably with an M2 chip.
 
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The Air is due next for an update, since it's now an outlier in regards to the front camera, and the Mini has upstaged it in the processor department. The Pros are in no need of an update anytime soon. Spring would be too early this tine around. Expect the next Pros in the fall of 2022, probably with an M2 chip.

Would not an M2 chip be released later this year with the new laptops? So iPad Pros could get that and an 11” one a mini-LED in the spring?
 

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Would not an M2 chip be released later this year with the new laptops? So iPad Pros could get that and an 11” one a mini-LED in the spring?
Potentially. We don't know how the M series will be renamed each iteration. It could go from M1 to M1X to M2, or go from M1 to M2. We'll see.
 
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*~Kim~*

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iPad being updated alongside iPhone is odd, especially a non-base model. So much so that I didn’t check out the event and only found out about the Mini 6 when I happened to open the forum.

I expect we will see the next Air in the usual October iPad slot.
 
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Nozuka

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The amount of RAM determines when the particular device will still be relevant during iOS upgrades! If the iPad Mini 6 only has 4GB, I will return it and continue on with my iPad Pro which has 8GB and keep my iPad Mini 4.

I remember how people complained about that when my Mini 4 was released with 2GB in 2015.
6 years later and it is getting updated to iPadOS15.

The amount of RAM people think the iOS devices need at least to have, always seem very arbitrary.

The new "base" iPad only got 3GB, btw.
 

*~Kim~*

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I'm so happy Apple didn't nerf the Mini 6 needlessly just to please Air 4 owners. The salt I've seen on so many forums makes me thirsty.

Me too, no doubt it was predominantly done as a Pro selling tactic though. Now those wanting an Air will buy the Pro or Mini if it’s not too small. There’s already a thread evidencing that the price of the 256 with LTE makes the 11 Pro tempting too.

I’d bet on Apple releasing a 128GB and maybe 512GB mid cycle (as it’s taken 9 years to lose the current form factor and only 3 Minis have really been up to date on release (2, 5 and 6) the Mini 7 is bound to be at least 3 years away.)
 
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Spock

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I think they should discontinue the iPad Air and let the 11" iPad Pro fill that screen size gap.
 

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I’d bet on Apple releasing a 128GB and maybe 512GB mid cycle (as it’s taken 9 years to lose the current form factor and only 3 Minis have really been up to date on release (2, 5 and 6) the Mini 7 is bound to be at least 3 years away.)

They’re already at 16 sku’s, considering past sales rates. To risk going 32 would take a pretty serious boost in popularity. I think they’ll see a bump but not probably enough for more than 24 skus.
 

Spock

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Not unless they add TouchID to the 11" Pro.
You would still have the option of buying the 10.2" iPad or the iPad mini if you want to keep touchID. They only give you a single option on the iPhone, the iPad would still have two models with TouchID.
 

rui no onna

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You would still have the option of buying the 10.2" iPad or the iPad mini if you want to keep touchID. They only give you a single option on the iPhone, the iPad would still have two models with TouchID.

I'd still prefer to have the Air with TouchID available than either of those options.

I had to choose between Air 4 and 11" Pro earlier this year and much as I'd love to get 5G and 8-16GB RAM, the Air 4 won out because I'm finding TouchID invaluable right now.

Although I really would prefer to have dual TouchID+FaceID on the 11" Pro. That would've been perfect.
 
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rui no onna

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Well now this makes things even more interesting…
Early Apple iPad mini (2021) benchmarks reveal downclocked CPU and GPU



Interesting. That puts it right around Air 4 performance except for GPU. Of course, it should match or exceed Air 4 battery life despite the lower battery capacity.
 

dgdosen

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I'd still prefer to have the Air with TouchID available than either of those options.

I had to choose between Air 4 and 11" Pro earlier this year and much as I'd love to get 5G and 8-16GB RAM, the Air 4 won out because I'm finding TouchID invaluable right now.

Although I really would prefer to have dual TouchID+FaceID on the 11" Pro. That would've been perfect.

IMO

TouchID (Power Button) > FaceID > TouchID (Home Button - because a home button is awful)
 
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Crow_Servo

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IMO

TouchID (Power Button) > FaceID > TouchID (Home Button - because a home button is awful)
It's an excellent implementation. It bothers me that the 2021 iPad Pros lack the TouchID in the power button and only have FaceID. Aren't they supposed to be the definitive iPads? Shouldn't they not lack any features? It's a missed opportunity for the Pros to not have both. I noticed my wife entering her passcode the other day on her '21 Pro and asked her why she wasn't using the FaceID. Turns out, it doesn't always recognize her. Kind of lame if you ask me. Maybe it depends on the angle of how you hold it that helps the FaceID, but still.

But back on topic, the Mini is a great purchase today. I got to see it in person, and it looks and feels perfect (I maybe would've liked it to be a tiny bit larger, but I get it, it's a Mini). Of course, I wish it could've gotten the Pro treatment with more RAM, ProMotion, more storage options and perhaps MiniLED, but the Mini seems destined to stay in Air territory.

I hope that "jelly scrolling" issue can be resolved with a software update. I hate to see a bunch of people exchanging it if it can be fixed through software. I think that's one of the biggest complaints so far, and it's mostly from users, not professional reviewers. Who knows if Apple is on the case trying to resolve it.
 
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I remember how people complained about that when my Mini 4 was released with 2GB in 2015.
6 years later and it is getting updated to iPadOS15.

The amount of RAM people think the iOS devices need at least to have, always seem very arbitrary.

The new "base" iPad only got 3GB, btw.
My mini 4 is all but useless. iPadOS 14 is a dog on the 2GB mini 4. The heat on the back tells me it’s really struggling. Even just looking at Apple News lags. I may do a wipe and install OS15 just for fun to see what happens, but right now it basically just sits in a drawer. Besides, the battery is basically toast on it, anyway.

Very happy to have the mini 6 as a replacement.
 
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