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Beside that macOS is stale in development. Apple changes the name once a year but really adds no new development to it accept for tweaks of new processors and integrated/dedicated GPUs.
Windows 10 and Linux are ever increasing development.
There is some truth to that. But development isn't always an improvement. Windows took a wrong turn with Windows 8, and the Windows 10 UI still hasn't recovered from that mistake. Not to mention things like the lock screen which is totally useless on a desktop (except for showing ads) and cannot be disabled any longer, or the forced telemetry and other dubious privacy practices, or the lack of user control over updates. There are also quite a few UI features that work much better on MacOS (such as mutiple desktops).
 
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There is some truth to that. But development isn't always an improvement. Windows took a wrong turn with Windows 8, and the Windows 10 UI still hasn't recovered from that mistake. Not to mention things like the lock screen which is totally useless on a desktop (except for showing ads) and cannot be disabled any longer, or the forced telemetry and other dubious privacy practices, or the lack of user control over updates. There are also quite a few UI features that work much better on MacOS (such as mutiple desktops).
While I'll agree that telemetry and registers are still a problem, I have no problem with the UI and multiple displays with my GPU. Lock screen is never activated and updates can be delayed but Windows 10 does eat a lot of bandwidth data.
Sure there are gripes with all OS's but Windows 10 have made great strides which drew me back. I swore after I left XP after using Windows back to when it was DOS, I would never return, but using 10 from the Insider program showed progress that impressed me. I use it on my Hackintosh to run games and other Windows programs. I still enjoy macOS even though nothing new besides the AFS been added. I also enjoy using Linux Mint because of the savings in hardware resources and it's apps.
There were many improvements and additions to OS X when I first moved to it but in the last couple of years there has really been nothing.
 
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Lock screen is never activated
How did you manage that? Since the 1607 update, I haven't been able to disable the damn thing.
and updates can be delayed but Windows 10
Delayed but not disabled. And a few weeks later it forces you to update no matter what, sometimes breaking things in the process (especially with the large "feature updates" that are now supposed to arrive in 6 month intervals). Some users need stability. In enterprises, just validating a new OS usually takes longer than 6 months.
Sure there are gripes with all OS's but Windows 10 have made great strides which drew me back. I swore after I left XP after using Windows back to when it was DOS, I would never return, but using 10 from the Insider program showed progress that impressed me. I use it on my Hackintosh to run games and other Windows programs. I still enjoy macOS even though nothing new besides the AFS been added.
MacOS actually had a lot of improvements under the hood over the years, such as much improved security through SIP, the Metal API, or Continuity/Handoff. And there have been numerous refinements in the UI and various stock apps such as Notes.

I assume by AFS you mean APFS? I wouldn't recommend to use this just yet if reliabilty is important, since it hasn't been fully validated for MacOS yet by Apple (although I agree it has a lot of improvement potential).
 
How did you manage that? Since the 1607 update, I haven't been able to disable the damn thing.

See this:
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/6567-enable-disable-lock-screen-windows-10-a.html

Delayed but not disabled. And a few weeks later it forces you to update no matter what, sometimes breaking things in the process (especially with the large "feature updates" that are now supposed to arrive in 6 month intervals). Some users need stability. In enterprises, just validating a new OS usually takes longer than 6 months.

Important to update for security.

I assume by AFS you mean APFS? I wouldn't recommend to use this just yet if reliabilty is important, since it hasn't been fully validated for MacOS yet by Apple (although I agree it has a lot of improvement potential).
I haven't had any issues with it.
 
I'm aware of these, but as the article says, the first two methods don't work anymore (unless you somehow get access to the Enterprise version which isn't available for retail customers), and the last two don't disable the lock screen on startup where it's most annoying.
Important to update for security.
But the thing is that they force *feature updates* on you. In every other operating system (including MacOS and earlier Windows versions) users can stay on a "point release" for years and still receive security updates. Linux distributions such as Ubuntu have LTS versions for that reason.
I haven't had any issues with it.
Well, for one thing you can't use Filevault on APFS volumes. There are also still some issues having to do with the case sensitivity.
 
I'm aware of these, but as the article says, the first two methods don't work anymore (unless you somehow get access to the Enterprise version which isn't available for retail customers), and the last two don't disable the lock screen on startup where it's most annoying.

you didn't read through the comments. I guess I don't understand what's so hard at entering a pin. I have used a 4 digit
pin.

But the thing is that they force *feature updates* on you. In every other operating system (including MacOS and earlier Windows versions) users can stay on a "point release" for years and still receive security updates. Linux distributions such as Ubuntu have LTS versions for that reason.

Yeah I get that....just the price you pay.


Well, for one thing you can't use Filevault on APFS volumes. There are also still some issues having to do with the case sensitivity.

I don't use Firevault. Any important information is kept on my server. I'm retired so I don't have to keep work files on my computer. I wouldn't recommend it to use as the only file system for work machines. It will be out of Beta once macOS gets the fall update.
 
you didn't read through the comments. I guess I don't understand what's so hard at entering a pin. I have used a 4 digit pin.
It's not hard, it's just stupid on a computer (as opposed to a tablet). Just a useless screen I have to click away every single time before being able to log in. I have no idea what they were thinking when they took away the option to disable it via group policy (probably just so they can force their ads down our throat).
 
It's not hard, it's just stupid on a computer (as opposed to a tablet). Just a useless screen I have to click away every single time before being able to log in. I have no idea what they were thinking when they took away the option to disable it via group policy (probably just so they can force their ads down our throat).
I hear people talk about adds all the time but I never see any? I must have turned off the right switch. lol
 
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There are something like 8-10 USB ports built in, half of which are USB 3.0 (double what my Mac mini had, and it had 0 that were USB 3). I have an upgraded video card installed in one of the expansion slots also, so if I wanted to, I could drive 4 monitors. There are 4 DIMM slots, so I can upgrade the RAM to 64 GB if I ever need or want to. Just a lot more options available to me that I didn't have before.

I know you can actually drive 7 screens on the prodesk 600. we have one at work running a pair matrox triplehead2go units hooked into a pair of display ports on the R9 GPU. and one out on HDMI
 
There are something like 8-10 USB ports built in, half of which are USB 3.0 (double what my Mac mini had, and it had 0 that were USB 3). I have an upgraded video card installed in one of the expansion slots also, so if I wanted to, I could drive 4 monitors. There are 4 DIMM slots, so I can upgrade the RAM to 64 GB if I ever need or want to. Just a lot more options available to me that I didn't have before.

Yes but what ones are you using?

My point is I could have 1000x USB ports on a computer but this doesn't make it better than a computer with 2 if I only use 1.
 
My point is I could have 1000x USB ports on a computer but this doesn't make it better than a computer with 2 if I only use 1.

Huh. I currently have a USB keyboard, a USB mouse, a USB sound card, one of my USB cell phone cords, an external USB HD, and a USB hub plugged into my Mini (some of these items are plugged into the hub, not the Mini). I had a bunch more items plugged in previously, but I've been moving away from my Minis to other computers.

In a world where most devices today have at least one USB port for communications / recharge, it is extremely useful for your main computer to be able to connect directly to all of these devices.
 
Since the usb-c/tb3 opens a lot for the future, i think apple should at least make at least 1 more update with kaby lake and tb3 ports,to drive 4k or 5k display
 
Since the usb-c/tb3 opens a lot for the future, i think apple should at least make at least 1 more update with kaby lake and tb3 ports,to drive 4k or 5k display

Well, heck, if Apple wanted to make the Mini a contender for the desktop workstation crowd, they would have done that a long time ago. The 2014 "update" took several steps to ensure that the Mini would never be competitive with devices such as, for example, the iMac.

It wouldn't be hard to fit iMac-level hardware into a small enclosure like the Mini. Intel certainly did so with their Skull Canyon NUC (which is, in several ways, superior to the most powerful iMacs available). Since Apple has consistently refused to do this in the past, I don't see why they would suddenly change their minds in the future.
 
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Usb-c/tb3 is on the go since 2016, so, apple can still make a mac mini a dual core cannon lake pocket device
 
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Yes but what ones are you using?

My point is I could have 1000x USB ports on a computer but this doesn't make it better than a computer with 2 if I only use 1.

Keyboard, Mouse, external USB 3.0 hard drive, iPad/iPhone/iPod, web cam, headset. That's 6 right there. Already 2 more than my 2010 Mac mini had available. My point is, if I want to add additional devices to my computer, I can easily do that without needing a powered hub.

The form factor of the computer is larger than that of a Mac mini, but it meets my needs better than the Mac mini did. If Apple were to release MacOS as an option for non-Apple computers, I might be inclined to run it. But the hardware options Apple offers for sale do not meet my needs/wants.
 
Well, heck, if Apple wanted to make the Mini a contender for the desktop workstation crowd, they would have done that a long time ago. The 2014 "update" took several steps to ensure that the Mini would never be competitive with devices such as, for example, the iMac.

It wouldn't be hard to fit iMac-level hardware into a small enclosure like the Mini. Intel certainly did so with their Skull Canyon NUC (which is, in several ways, superior to the most powerful iMacs available). Since Apple has consistently refused to do this in the past, I don't see why they would suddenly change their minds in the future.

I don't disagree, but just for the sake of argument (while we await the new mac mini, almost certainly coming), the Apple mind appears to be in flux. My guess is that Apple had it in mind to dump the Mac Pro and the Mini. But, the Apple mind seems to have, reluctantly, changed due to the large number of people they have offended and irritated, and may have realized that killing off a perfectly good part of the business for no good reason is foolish. But now that the Apple mind is changing, who knows how much it will change or where it will go? After all, it's a really good mind, with all the best words such as "amazing" and "magical." There may be some surprises for us in the new Mac Mini.
 
I don't disagree, but just for the sake of argument (while we await the new mac mini, almost certainly coming), the Apple mind appears to be in flux. My guess is that Apple had it in mind to dump the Mac Pro and the Mini. But, the Apple mind seems to have, reluctantly, changed due to the large number of people they have offended and irritated, and may have realized that killing off a perfectly good part of the business for no good reason is foolish. But now that the Apple mind is changing, who knows how much it will change or where it will go? After all, it's a really good mind, with all the best words such as "amazing" and "magical." There may be some surprises for us in the new Mac Mini.
Make the Mac Mini Amazing and Magical Again. Mac Mini First.:)
 
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