The Official Battlestar Galactica Thread : SPOILERS

[Queso]

Did anyone else catch this or have any explanations?

Would they do that? Have Tyrell as a serial Cylon lover? And Callie was the one that shot Sharon in the Jack Ruby moment too

Don't forget that they also had a baby though. Hmm....

 

[joepunk]

The other one is Simon, I believe. Yes, it definitely would make sense – who says all the human models have to be adults?

The doctor from the farm is Simon. that's my name btw

I am starting to think that the young girl is another cylon model.

 

[atszyman]

The doctor from the farm is Simon. that's my name btw

I am starting to think that the young girl is another cylon model.

Should have gone here. Simon is the doctor, Doral is the other one, and the preacher is Brother Cavil. Now I shall never forget the names...

 

[~Shard~]

Would they do that? Have Tyrell as a serial Cylon lover? And Callie was the one that shot Sharon in the Jack Ruby moment too

Don't forget that they also had a baby though. Hmm....

Yeah, I know, I wasn't really serious. Just trying to figure out what the deal was with that whole series of events...

The doctor from the farm is Simon. that's my name btw

Are you a Cylon?!?

 

[Queso]

Interesting concept about the Cylon personalities being tailored to match each of the colonies. I do remember Laura Roslyn saying at the end of Season 1 that Gemanon (or maybe Aeron) was super-religious, and now we have a preacher Cylon.

 

[Marble]

It seems to me like the issue with Callie's cliffhanger is an inconsistency. Although when you watch the episodes back to back it is pretty glaring.

 

[~Shard~]

It seems to me like the issue with Callie's cliffhanger is an inconsistency. Although when you watch the episodes back to back it is pretty glaring.

Thank you, glad I'm not the only one who caught that!

I just wonder why they would do that, or let that slip like that. In the good old days of Star Trek TOS it was amusing and slightly more understanding if Kirk's badge moved from one side to another, but in this day and age and with a show the caliber of BSG, you'd think they'd have a small team of individuals dedicated solely to continuity. And it's not like this is a small thing, like an item moving to a different place - this is a significant part of action fairly key to the scene/plot we're talking about here!

 

[bluebomberman]

I think I was too distracted by Tyrol's missing beard to notice Cally's misdirection.

Ron Moore stated in the podcast that the problems came from having to shoot the 3rd episode much later than the 2nd episode, having different directors, and the forced expansion of Exodus into two parts. Oops.

EDIT: By the way, there are 12 Cylon models. Recall from the miniseries what Six told Baltar right before the attack: "There are 12 models. I'm Number Six."

 

[Fukui]

I posted this theory in white text after the first episode. I'm absolutely convinced that the child is not Starbuck's and is not a Cylon/Human hybrid. If they'd managed to pull that off they wouldn't have much use for finding Hera would they?

I'm almost ready to believe that the child is 100% Cylon and one of the 12 "skin jobs."

It could be, or just a kid that was.... kidnaped.
It'll be interesting to see what happens.

I see more pain and tragedy heading for Thrace unfortunately....

 

[~Shard~]

Ron Moore stated in the podcast that the problems came from having to shoot the 3rd episode much later than the 2nd episode, having different directors, and the forced expansion of Exodus into two parts. Oops.

Cool, I'll have to have a listen to that. So it's really a continuity error?? Yikes, that's unfortunate. I mean, it's very obvious and is pretty central. Ah well, what can ya do, what's done is done...

It's good though in a way that Exodus was "forced" to be expanded to 2 episodes - I'd rather see more and have the story fleshed out rather than cutting corners in order to meet the requirements of fitting it in a single episode. Give me as much BSG as possible, I say! I was really happy with the 2-part finale last season when they extended part 2 to a full 90-100 minutes (or whatever it was). What can I say, I love the epic nature of the show.

 

[xPismo]

I think I was too distracted by Tyrol's missing beard to notice Cally's misdirection.

Yeah. Funny how something so small can throw you out of the show. I was totally jolted once he showed up all fresh shaven.

 

[~Shard~]

Yeah. Funny how something so small can throw you out of the show. I was totally jolted once he showed up all fresh shaven.

In a way it's good to have the old Tyrol back though. That being said, if you look back at Tyrol at the very start of the series it's pretty impressive all the character development that has taken place - kudos to the writers. Going through the Sharon thing, the experience on Kobol, the Phoenix, now having a child... and that's just a few of the highlights. Not saying the other characters haven't gone through the same type of development of course, just pointing out this specific instance.

 

[Marble]

I'd rather see more and have the story fleshed out rather than cutting corners in order to meet the requirements of fitting it in a single episode. Give me as much BSG as possible, I say!

I get you, but I still think that the miniseries and the first 13 episodes were the most beautifully orchestrated of any episodes since. Sometimes I miss that.

 

[~Shard~]

I get you, but I still think that the miniseries and the first 13 episodes were the most beautifully orchestrated of any episodes since. Sometimes I miss that.

Not disagreeing with you at all. But it is all relative in my opinion - Season 1 was perhaps a 15/10 while Season 2 was a 11/10. Season 2 had some amazing episodes and plot lines as well don't forget. Downloaded was an excellent concept and the 3-part story arc around Pegasus and Resurrection Ship is honestly some of the best sci-fi ever written in my opinion (an opinion which I fully appreciate not everyone would share.)

 

[Marble]

No, no, you're right. Maybe it's that just about everything Moore writes turns to gold, and the miniseries + season 1 had a much higher Moore to everyone-else ratio. A tighter team. Not to say there aren't some other brilliant writers/directors (Olmos's direction of "Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down" in season 1 was both different and very skilled, and I think Toni Graphia really scored high with "Flesh and Bone"), but Moore's technique is clearly masterful.

 

[~Shard~]

No, no, you're right. Maybe it's that just about everything Moore writes turns to gold, and the miniseries + season 1 had a much higher Moore to everyone-else ratio. A tighter team. Not to say there aren't some other brilliant writers/directors (Olmos's direction of "Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down" in season 1 was both different and very skilled, and I think Toni Graphia really scored high with "Flesh and Bone"), but Moore's technique is clearly masterful.

I know what you mean - completely agree.

 

[Piarco]

Having recently installed Boot Campeek: ) and Windows XPeek: ) on my MacBook, mainly for work (honest!) I decided to re-install some old classics -System Shock 2 and Freespace 2.

Now I know there were various groups making hi-res mods for these great games so I got on Google and searched. Got the SS2 mods (which continually crash the game) and then onto the FS2 mods. Found the hi-res mods and hen stumbled, literally into this gem:

Battlestar Galactica: Beyond The Red Line

And, as its a suitable thread to use the word, it looks FRACKING AWESOME!
Especially as it uses old tech.

Have a look at the promo trailer

I just hope this sees the light of day, and the studio doesn't shut it down. Especially as FS2 runs on Macs - with a little tweaking. Well, a lot of tweaking which defeated me

 

[nagromme]

I FINALLY got caught up on BSG, thanks to Netflix + iTunes. I have a Season 3 pass now.

All I can say is, a few of these ... an assortment of and ... and a bunch more of these

They sure know how to make a plot twist hit as a total surprise AND be believable. Again and again. Is it Friday yet?

Battlestar Galactica: Beyond The Red Line

And, as its a suitable thread to use the word, it looks FRACKING AWESOME!
Especially as it uses old tech.

Have a look at the promo trailer

I just hope this sees the light of day, and the studio doesn't shut it down. Especially as FS2 runs on Macs - with a little tweaking. Well, a lot of tweaking which defeated me

Wow! Let us know if you get it working!

I bet there's some hope of it being allowed: Lucasfilm allows the UT2004 Troopers mod, which is kind of amazing.

EDIT: love the video, complete with shaky-cam. But someone needs to go to the brig for flying out through the in hole!

 

[Marble]

You should be able to use the BSG Freespace 2 mod with the unofficial Mac version of Freespace 2: FS2_Open. There's an excellent getting started guide here. Any excuse not to be in Windows is a good one.

 

[spicyapple]

Who are your favourite characters?

Season 1 and 2, I like Helo and a bit of Baltar, especially when he daydreams, which was comedic. Did it ever get resolved if he really was crazy or if Six was in fact an angel?

Season 3, hard to say at this point, but I'm really starting to like Sharon.

 

[Queso]

Did it ever get resolved if he really was crazy or if Six was in fact an angel?

Wierd one to answer that, because in the series 2 episode Downloaded, we saw the Six that had been in love with Baltar seeing a cold manipulative version of him in exactly the same way the real Baltar sees her. Almost as if the downloading process was corrupted by them being in love, leaving her with a piece of him and vice versa.

 

[telecomm]

Wierd one to answer that, because in the series 2 episode Downloaded, we saw the Six that had been in love with Baltar seeing a cold manipulative version of him in exactly the same way the real Baltar sees her. Almost as if the downloading process was corrupted by them being in love, leaving her with a piece of him and vice versa.

Six also reappears to Baltar in the third season after having been shot (and is otherwise always there in the flesh), which supports this view.

 

[nagromme]

Who are your favourite characters?.

Adama, Roslin, Chief Tyrol and Dr. Cottle

I do like the Sharons, too--interesting journeys. I still can't figure out where the original Sharon stands. It seems like Caprica 6's growing humanity may have been original-Sharon's loss! Meanwhile Caprica Sharon has evolved to become more human than any of them. I bet original-Sharon flips out when she sees Caprica Sharon wearing a Raptor uniform

Favorite villains: the new Cylons are pleasantly evil: #3 and Brother Cavil. Baltar, ironically, is less of a villain now than ever--he clearly has a real conscience--but his fellow humans now see him as an enemy.

Wierd one to answer that, because in the series 2 episode Downloaded, we saw the Six that had been in love with Baltar seeing a cold manipulative version of him in exactly the same way the real Baltar sees her. Almost as if the downloading process was corrupted by them being in love, leaving her with a piece of him and vice versa.

The Baltar visions are a GREAT twist. I loved that.

So what are they? I think the question is open:

1. Chip? Not in Cottle's scan... but would a small piece of Cylon bio-tech, engineered to BE undetectable, show up in a scan? Look at the Cylon "computer" that was moved from the heavy raider to the raptor for the Caprica strike. Would that look like a chip on an X-ray? No! So I think it still COULD turn out to be an implant. (But why would Caprica 6 see Baltar? Because the implant, in theory, was meant to forge a connection and foster 6's original mission. Maybe it worked a little TOO well. No need for 6 to have an implant for this connection: her whole BRAIN is Cylon tech.)

2. Hallucination/guilt/madness, just "in their heads." BTW, on the Season 2 DVD/podcast commentary for Downloaded, they say that (semi-spoiler hidden)... the Baltar and 6 visions are just in the character's heads--manifestations of themSELVES, saying things THEY already think/know. Sounds pretty clear--but I don't buy it for three reasons: 1) Even the creators may not know just where they are going with it yet; 2) They may know but not say on the commentary: they may approach the writing as if it's just a psychological problem, when in fact they have other ideas; and 3) Number 6 debunked that already! She knew about the baby way back at the end of Season 1! How could a hallucination know that? So I think we are not yet supposed to know what these visions are. I do NOT think "just in their heads" is the final answer.

3. Angel/supernatural beings of some kind. The show does have spiritual elements: prophecies, dreams, visions--for both Cylons and humans... so this is not impossible. (But seems unlikely. Number 6 would certainly SAY such a thing, but you know what they say about 6's lips moving.)

4. Psychic link between the two characters. Supernatural maybe, but not actual separate beings. So, partly explanation 2 and maybe partly 1?

 

[DISCOMUNICATION]

Bump

Still not gonna pay for cable tv, but I'm finally gonna make the jump to DSL so I can download eps off iTunes. DSL was unavailable in my area for years and I think my line only quailfies for 768Kbps and 1.5Mbps, but not the 3Mbps. I'm a cheap skate, but patient. Is 768Kbps bearable for iTunes tv show downloads? I'm not gonna time out or lose the connection at that speed right? Half as fast or twice as slow. Season 3 here I come.

 

[AliensAreFuzzy]

Oh wow. I just finished watching Part 2 of Exodus. Simply amazing. I don't know what to say.