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The Official Santa Rosa waiting thread!
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generik said:
This is only conjecture at the moment! An over reaction from a worried merom fan....
...can u prove this 32 bit accusation!
There is no point in starting a panic that people are not really getting a 64 bit processor with merom when one doesnt have the proof!
Oh deary me, please people, I'm begging you, hold out for Memrom, buy Memrom and then be happy. Upgrade in 2 years to the latest and greatest.
generik said:
I have a MacBook Pro here and yeah I'll upgrade it when the Santa Rosa based machines are released. I can see no reason for people to have waited all this time for Merom and then to purchase it when the technology hasn't fully matured. There are enough reasons to hold off for Santa Rosa IMO faster fsb, better wireless, etc.
When is it coming out? I heard Janurary but then Intel said something about delays (that could've been something else though 
). I'm probably not going to wait past March.
). I'm probably not going to wait past March.
well, I wouldn't say I'm "waiting," but I certainly am not going to sell my MB to buy a merom version that's a marginal improvement. So yeah, Santa Rosa could be my next purchase.
From what I'm reading Merom is already part of the Santa Rosa platform, but
this April there will be improvements in the form of a faster frontside bus and improved wireless chips.
The Penryn platform due 2nd quarter 2007 is where the Merom design gets shrinked to 45 nm.
So for notebook buyers, it's still a bit of a rocky road to that cool running performance per watt and energy efficiency that we all hope for.
If you already have a working Apple notebook, you're in much better shape than anyone who must buy something soon.
This roadmap gives you a good idea of what to look forward to.
http://www.mikeshardware.co.uk/RoadmapQ107.htm
this April there will be improvements in the form of a faster frontside bus and improved wireless chips.
The Penryn platform due 2nd quarter 2007 is where the Merom design gets shrinked to 45 nm.
So for notebook buyers, it's still a bit of a rocky road to that cool running performance per watt and energy efficiency that we all hope for.
If you already have a working Apple notebook, you're in much better shape than anyone who must buy something soon.
This roadmap gives you a good idea of what to look forward to.
http://www.mikeshardware.co.uk/RoadmapQ107.htm
It gets even crazier because some of these code names are for the main CPU processors and some are code names for wireless chips.
Then you get into the new VRAM cards which should eventually reduce heat
and energy demands along the way.
Steve's Intel keynote stressed perfomance per watt, so you can rest assured that's where it's all heading.
All my experience following this stuff, tells me to be patient.
If you must buy something fairly soon, I would buy conservatively.
Then you get into the new VRAM cards which should eventually reduce heat
and energy demands along the way.
Steve's Intel keynote stressed perfomance per watt, so you can rest assured that's where it's all heading.
All my experience following this stuff, tells me to be patient.
If you must buy something fairly soon, I would buy conservatively.
It sounds WAAAAY off but if you're someone who is saving for a new notebook
that gives you 6-7 months to save $200-$300 per month.
A rushed decision is more likely to adversely affect those buying on credit.
that gives you 6-7 months to save $200-$300 per month.
A rushed decision is more likely to adversely affect those buying on credit.
Just some more info on Intel's roadmap.
http://news.com.com/Intel+stays+on+dual-core+track+through+2008/2100-1006_3-6071046.html
But Penryn is a dual-core 45-nanometer chip specifically designed for notebooks, sources said. Wolfdale is the name of the dual-core 45nm chip that will be slated for desktops in that time frame. Penryn is essentially a smaller version of Merom, which is due in August, while Wolfdale is a smaller version of Conroe, scheduled for a July launch.
Penryn and Wolfdale are among the first chips that will arrive based on the Nehalem microarchitecture, the successor to the Core architecture. Intel's decision to make those products be dual-core chips illustrate its focus on making sure new designs can be manufactured in large volumes, said Mercury Research analyst Dean McCarron, after learning of the plan.
There's an inherent level of risk involved when a chip company is introducing a new manufacturing technology, as Intel will do with Penryn and Wolfdale, McCarron said. Chipmakers can't be sure how the new manufacturing process will behave while cranking out chips by the millions, which means they tend to start off with designs that they already understand, he said.
So Intel is using multichip packaging technology to create its first quad-core processors in 2007, just as it used multichip packaging to create its first dual-core chips in 2005. Kentsfield, the quad-core chip, is really just two Conroe processors packaged together. While there is a slight performance tradeoff in this approach, and chip purists find it inelegant, it allows Intel to maximize its yields, the number of working processors that can be cut from a silicon wafer, McCarron said.
http://news.com.com/Intel+stays+on+dual-core+track+through+2008/2100-1006_3-6071046.html
But Penryn is a dual-core 45-nanometer chip specifically designed for notebooks, sources said. Wolfdale is the name of the dual-core 45nm chip that will be slated for desktops in that time frame. Penryn is essentially a smaller version of Merom, which is due in August, while Wolfdale is a smaller version of Conroe, scheduled for a July launch.
Penryn and Wolfdale are among the first chips that will arrive based on the Nehalem microarchitecture, the successor to the Core architecture. Intel's decision to make those products be dual-core chips illustrate its focus on making sure new designs can be manufactured in large volumes, said Mercury Research analyst Dean McCarron, after learning of the plan.
There's an inherent level of risk involved when a chip company is introducing a new manufacturing technology, as Intel will do with Penryn and Wolfdale, McCarron said. Chipmakers can't be sure how the new manufacturing process will behave while cranking out chips by the millions, which means they tend to start off with designs that they already understand, he said.
So Intel is using multichip packaging technology to create its first quad-core processors in 2007, just as it used multichip packaging to create its first dual-core chips in 2005. Kentsfield, the quad-core chip, is really just two Conroe processors packaged together. While there is a slight performance tradeoff in this approach, and chip purists find it inelegant, it allows Intel to maximize its yields, the number of working processors that can be cut from a silicon wafer, McCarron said.