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Is the final Version of El Capitan faster?

  • Yes, a lot!

    Votes: 162 47.1%
  • Yes, a little bit.

    Votes: 125 36.3%
  • No, there is no difference.

    Votes: 57 16.6%

  • Total voters
    344

Fimeg

macrumors regular
Jun 12, 2013
150
5
I was about to sell my MBPr 15" 2012 (the first one), but El Capitan gave it the second breath. It is way faster, smoother and I again do enjoy my Mac.


I sold mine... bought the top 2015 15", and actually don't feel like I'm going much faster. My 2012 was still pretty darn good.
 

bigpoppamac31

macrumors 68020
Aug 16, 2007
2,454
439
Canada
I'm running Mavericks still but so far I'm seeing over all positive reviews of El Capitan. I'm still not sure I like the overall UI. I like certain things but hate others. I definitely don't like iTunes UI which is why I'm still on iTunes 11. But for me to upgrade my iPhone to iOS 9 I need iTunes 12. Kinda wish Apple would allow users to choose which UI they want. Either the Mavericks UI or the current UI. If I recall MS did it with Windows if you wanted XP or Vista to look like Win '98. Is El Capitan really worth the upgrade? I usually don't upgrade with a .0 release but wait for updates first.
 

doynton

macrumors 6502
Oct 19, 2014
299
17
Faster than what? It predecessors?

Which old version?
To do what?
On what hardware?
Based on what - intuition, a general feel, GUI seems smoother, actually did a benchmark?

I'd vote for it being slower on my 2006 MBP than Snow Leopard (feels clunky to me - but I've no empirical evidence to back that up) but slower isn't an option.

The only options are "much faster", "faster" or "just as good".
 
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bigpoppamac31

macrumors 68020
Aug 16, 2007
2,454
439
Canada
Faster than what? It predecessors?

Which old version?
To do what?
On what hardware?
Based on what - intuition, a general feel, GUI seems smoother, actually did a benchmark?

I'd vote for it being slower on my 2006 MBP than Snow Leopard (feels clunky to me - but I've no empirical evidence to back that up) but slower isn't an option.

The only options are "much faster", "faster" or "just as good".

If your Mac is from 2006 than it technically can't run El Capitan. Scroll down to see hardware requirements. http://www.apple.com/ca/osx/how-to-upgrade/
 

Emiljabo

macrumors member
Dec 16, 2013
48
13
Been running Creative Cloud so far without any problems. I am able to run Illustrator in the "Preview in GPU mode" now without all the lines looking like complete pixelated crap. Before I had to use the "Preview in CPU mode" for it to render the lines as intended. So I'm not sure how much of a speed difference there would be between CPU or GPU mode, but now that I am able to run in GPU mode Illustrator is rapid...

Loving the new default OS font too. :)
 

Max(IT)

Suspended
Dec 8, 2009
8,551
1,662
Italy
I skipped Yosemite on my Macs.
Today I installed El Captain on my MBP (late 11, still a powerful machine) and it's just great.
I installed it also on my old Mini (late 09 with 4 Gb of ram) and it feels smoother than Mountain Lion so far (tried for a few minutes).
I'm going to install it on my wife's Air 2010, with only 2 Gb of ram.
 

yukyuklee

macrumors 6502
Jan 4, 2011
368
40
Boston, MA
I skipped Yosemite on my Macs.
Today I installed El Captain on my MBP (late 11, still a powerful machine) and it's just great.
I installed it also on my old Mini (late 09 with 4 Gb of ram) and it feels smoother than Mountain Lion so far (tried for a few minutes).
I'm going to install it on my wife's Air 2010, with only 2 Gb of ram.

After upgrading my mid 2011 mac mini from Mavericks to Yosemite, I got so much lag, But I can say after installing El Capitan its like night and day
 
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IA64

macrumors 6502a
Nov 8, 2013
552
66
iMac 27" core i7 3.5Ghz / 32GB RAM / 512 PCie SSD - GTX 780M

Google tabs still sluggish when opening new one.

Office 2016 maximizing is also jerky for example.

Fresh installation here. Not sure what's the deal...
 

yukyuklee

macrumors 6502
Jan 4, 2011
368
40
Boston, MA
iMac 27" core i7 3.5Ghz / 32GB RAM / 512 PCie SSD - GTX 780M

Google tabs still sluggish when opening new one.

Office 2016 maximizing is also jerky for example.

Fresh installation here. Not sure what's the deal...

your computer is probably reindexing give it a bit until it finishes
 

alisalem

macrumors regular
Apr 12, 2013
158
123
Mississauga, ON
iMac 27" core i7 3.5Ghz / 32GB RAM / 512 PCie SSD - GTX 780M

Google tabs still sluggish when opening new one.

Office 2016 maximizing is also jerky for example.

Fresh installation here. Not sure what's the deal...

My Mac Mini (Late 2012) is lagging too. I upgraded from Yosemite.
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
11,959
2,156
Faster than what? It predecessors?

Which old version?
To do what?
On what hardware?
Based on what - intuition, a general feel, GUI seems smoother, actually did a benchmark?

I'd vote for it being slower on my 2006 MBP than Snow Leopard (feels clunky to me - but I've no empirical evidence to back that up) but slower isn't an option.

The only options are "much faster", "faster" or "just as good".

Is there a way to actually benchmark the OS's GUI performance?

As far as standard OpenGL benchmarks go there is no change, no surprise. I ran a valley benchmark immediately before and after the upgrade from Yosemite to El Capitan. Results were negligible.

Overall I'm having a positive experience however honestly I find El Capitan the solution to a problem that should have never existed in the first place. "Thank you Apple for speeding up my Mac to were it was before you slowed it down! Thank you so much!". I do appreciate the other features though.
 
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yukyuklee

macrumors 6502
Jan 4, 2011
368
40
Boston, MA
Is there a way to actually benchmark the OS's GUI performance?

As far as standard OpenGL benchmarks go there is no change, no surprise. I ran a valley benchmark immediately before and after the upgrade from Yosemite to El Capitan. Results were negligible.

Overall I'm having a positive experience however honestly I find El Capitan the solution to a problem that should have never existed in the first place. "Thank you Apple for speeding up my Mac to were it was before you slowed it down! Thank you so much!". I do appreciate the other features though.

exactly where I was trying to get at lol
 

IA64

macrumors 6502a
Nov 8, 2013
552
66
your computer is probably reindexing give it a bit until it finishes

No it's not. I'm checking Resource monitor and the system is Idle.

Seriously I think Nvidia cards and OS X don't play nice together... On windows 10 it's incredibly fluid....
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
11,959
2,156
No it's not. I'm checking Resource monitor and the system is Idle.

Seriously I think Nvidia cards and OS X don't play nice together... On windows 10 it's incredibly fluid....

My iMac has a 775m and its very fluid. I can force minor lagginess but its nothing I'd normally encounter, for example split view 2 safari windows with HTML5 players in both then rapidly slide the divider back and forth. Even then its very minor.

When you mention Google tabs earlier what exactly were you referring too? I'm curious to try that but I'm not exactly sure how to test it.
 

NiCk-

macrumors regular
Jun 11, 2007
198
126
Fresh install on a 2012 rMBP .. Extremely satisfied so far ! The animations are much smoother than before !
 

chevalier433

macrumors 6502a
Mar 30, 2011
510
13
In my experience,placebo effect.Same as Yosemite except the wifi and bluetooth issues and some extra futures.Maybe in the future when Metal api going to be supported.
 

cvda

macrumors newbie
Jun 11, 2015
5
1
I hated Yosemite for the stuttering especially in Mission Control. Today I upgraded from Yosemite to El Capitan (no clean install). The system now feels so snappy and fluid, even after hours.

I'm using a rMbp mid 2014 "13 with 2 1080p external monitors.
 
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jeanlain

macrumors 68020
Mar 14, 2009
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Best you tell it then, I'm sure it will stop working if you insist.

It's a Core2Duo 2.16 running El Capitan. Fine - but slowly.
A 2006 Macbook Pro isn't supported. There's no compatible driver for its GPU. No wonder why it's slow. You must have tweaked the system so that it runs (that or you're not using the Mac you describe).
 

Emiljabo

macrumors member
Dec 16, 2013
48
13
One little issue in Illustrator CC which has all of a sudden presented itself since upgrading is when using a stylus you can hold the "CTRL" key to act like the right mouse click button. This has stopped working... Works fine in all other apps. Does anyone know of a setting that may have been set as default somewhere when El Capitan was installed that I may need to uncheck or something to get this working again?
 

iKnowMr.Jobs

macrumors 6502
Oct 17, 2010
273
96
Been on Public Betas for awhile now and it has breathed so much life into my Air. Animations are faster and I've feel like my Air lasts a little longer on a charge. Still a few bugs though. For one, occasionally when i open it up from idle, the os isn't quite ready for my password input and its about a 5-7 second wait. Is it big deal? Not really, because it doesn't happen every time but when it does, its quite annoying? I also tend to get occasional Finder crashes (no, i don't use TotalFinder) when doing iCloudDrive related things. Though, I firmly believe it has more to do with my university's piss poor wireless, because I never experience this on my home wifi, which gives me like 70 mbps down. That about sums up all of the issues I have, which is to say, very few.
 

Mac Hammer Fan

macrumors 65816
Jul 13, 2004
1,332
499
El Capitan boots faster but works slower.
Unigine Heaven 4.0 on a MacPro 5,1. Preset Extreme, quality Ultra.
a) Yosemite 15,2 fps.
b) El Capitan 11,6 fps and no sound.
El Capitan is slower.
Cinebench R15
Open GL: 73fps (Yosemite) vs 62fps (El Capitan)
CPU: 810 (Yosemite) vs 770 (El Capitan)
El Capitan is slower.
 
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