The quarterly Samsung sales thread

[jamezr]

The SE will be supported with OS updates for many years, much like any other Apple device. I don't know why there is suddenly this insinuation that this wouldn't be the case when there is no history to imply this.

I don't get the hate going on ... It baffles me. Don't like, don't buy. But don't begrudge ....

It's same mentality a number of our more troll like posters use all the time to justify there vitriol (J McG, Mi7 etc...) regardless of who / which they are ripping on.

This should be a sticky....

 

[Lloydbm41]

I just went to the Apple store at lunch to buy an SE 64GB for my wife now that she's decided what color after wanting all four and they're sold out.

There are plenty around where I live. I'm not sure if the physical Apple Stores are the best option though. Doubt they got much stock per store. Online is always the best option IMO.

 

[lowendlinux]

There are plenty around where I live. I'm not sure if the physical Apple Stores are the best option though. Doubt they got much stock per store. Online is always the best option IMO.

I'm an American working for the USG in Germany so I don't have to pay the 19% VAT if I order from the website I can't take VAT off.

 

[Lloydbm41]

Yes, maybe, nope.

He is referring to the main camera on the back. It is the same as the 6S. The Nexus 5X had a good camera, but not better than the 6S or 6S+.

 

[gotluck]

But this is mostly used tech\design sold as new retail.(best way I could put it).

Look at the Moto X PE .. $399 for 16gb, only $50 more for 33gb, and $499 for 64gb .... which includes a 5.7 Quad HD screen, 21mp camera, 5mp front camera, Fastcharging, Front facing stereo speakers, water resistant, and etc. Yea it came out about 6 months ago, but I can still buy it brand new for the prices mentioned above.

Apple is just asking to much from someone that's not dependent on their ecosystem. What legit excuse(besides greed) do they have to not start with a 32gb option, or include that option after the 16gb, just to have such a similar experience in a 4 inch screen?

The only reason I wanted the SE is cause my 5S 64gb is in bad shape and I rather have my second line as a differ mobile OS. But that doesn't mean I'm going to settle with Apple's lack of options and BS pricing for what it's worth. I'll most likely end up getting a used mint 5S 32gb for about $250-$300.

Yes I understand 4 inch iPhones are in demand, but the SE is basically a 5S with a bit more horse power running it. As a consumer, I don't care about Apple's bottomline or strategy, I care if the purchase makes sense to me. I was already on the borderline of purchasing, but the lack of the 32gb completely kill it.

The x pe has lower performance, battery life, and I wager lower rear facing camera though. It is also rather huge but that is a pro for some. Motorola has also been losing their mojo as far as update track record too

I hear you on apples greed, they are the greediest company on earth(how else do you get those margins?). I think 399 for 16gb is rather low by Apple standards though! Of course apples pricing for storage still makes me want to puke

 

[Lloydbm41]

I'm an American working for the USG in Germany so I don't have to pay the 19% VAT if I order from the website I can't take VAT off.

You in Stuttgart, K-Town or Berlin? You have an APO address?? So a familyfamily member could purchase in States and mail to you?

 

[lowendlinux]

You in Stuttgart, K-Town or Berlin? You have an APO address?? So a familyfamily member could purchase in States and mail to you?

Stuttgart..not sure about bands though

 

[Lloydbm41]

Stuttgart..not sure about bands though

Thought iPhones were world phones now? At the very least, I thought all bands for 3G, 4G and LTE in N. America and Europe were covered?

 

[epicrayban]

Edit: wrong thread. Thought this was the s7 thread.
[doublepost=1459813911][/doublepost]I understand people's complaints about the iPhone SE, but for the most part, I think this is a good move by Apple. I'm always down for better competition in the smaller phone space. And Apple fans get to reap the benefits of more choice, something Android fans have been trying to explain for years prior to Apple diversifying their lineup.

There are tradeoffs whenever you have choices and it isn't always easy to make. Just today a colleague asked me whether it was worth spending the money on an iPhone SE or the iPhone 6 (not 6S) for his caretaker. He really wasn't sure which to go for. Larger screen vs latest specs? Choice isn't always easy, but it can be rewarding to more people.

BTW, I told him to go for the SE.

 

[Flow39]

But If you were looking for a 4" device, those two are goliaths and would never enter the equation.

Likewise the 5x is far bigger than the SE and therefore wouldn't really fit the same category.

The SE has a place, the 6S internals in the 5S case isn't a bad thing.

Even the 6S was essentially the iPhone 6 case with faster internals too, and one could argue much the same about the Galaxy S6 - S7.

The SE fits a niche, one that Android doesn't. There are no 4" Android devices with 2015/2016 flagship SOC and rear cameras. The closest is the Z5 compact and it's still 4.7" which would be more comparable to the 6S.

True. It all comes down to a matter of preference anyways. I love the SE myself and almost found myself picking one up on launch day, but talked myself out of it since I don't need another phone lol. The SE is definitely a niche phone that has its place in the market. It's probably the only small phone I'd recommend.

I was mostly replying to the poster who asked what phones are better than the SE for $400. The size, OS, and build materials of a phone are so subjective though, plus the poster didn't mention anything about the phones needing to be 4" phones. I naturally recommended a couple good sub-$400 phones, even though their displays are quite large. For a 4" phone though, yes. I doubt you can find anything better than the SE, especially with its $399 entry price.

 

[spriter]

What happened to Samsung sales figures here?

FWIW I'm one of those who likes compact phones so the SE was a day one buy. Tried the Z5C last year but the camera and heat disappointed. Quite like the 5S design and the rear camera, A9, and battery improvements in a small package are a good alternative. Plenty of family and friends still like the 5S form factor too. It's not really aimed at tech enthusiasts like us.

Anyway, back to Samsung... it looks like the S7 and Edge are working out for them. Not really a surprise given the generally positive reviews across the board. And all the better if that influx of money helps them speed up software updates (glass half-full...where is my Note 5 MM?!).

 

[Surf Donkey]

He is referring to the main camera on the back. It is the same as the 6S. The Nexus 5X had a good camera, but not better than the 6S or 6S+.

http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus-5x-versus-iphone-se

In reality, these two phones show extremely similar profiles, with the Nexus 5X exposing daylight scenes slightly darker than the iPhone. Photo after photo revealed subtle details, with little distortion and vibrant hues. And the 5X's 5MP front-facing camera destroys the iPhone's 1.2MP sensor in almost every condition.

The iPhone SE, at $399, is a far more confounding product in many ways. It bears resemblance to its larger, more substantial counterparts in some ways, but doesn't go far enough in many others. Even if someone is after a small phone, they're left asking why Apple decided to keep so many outdated aspects of the three year-old iPhone 5s.

 

[scott craft]

In response to the Samsung part of the thread I'm glad Samsung's latest are selling well. They are really nice phones.

 

[Shanghaichica]

I didn't know about this thread.

Things are looking good for Samsung


http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/6/11381746/samsung-earnings-guidance-q1-2016

http://m.pocketnow.com/2016/04/06/samsung-earnings-q1-2016

http://techcrunch.com/2016/04/06/samsung-q12016-guidance/

 

[jamezr]

I didn't know about this thread.

Things are looking good for Samsung


http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/6/11381746/samsung-earnings-guidance-q1-2016

http://m.pocketnow.com/2016/04/06/samsung-earnings-q1-2016

http://techcrunch.com/2016/04/06/samsung-q12016-guidance/

Sales and profits are up because of the Galaxy S7 and S7 Edge are a big hit.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

It's great to see Samsung seeing a return for once. It's no surprise though as their latest releases have been big hits.

But as we are often told when someone pees on the campfire in the Apple threads; 'sales and profit does not necessarily mean it's because they have the best product'. Haha, it probably already been said. Tongue in cheek.

 

[epicrayban]

It's great to see Samsung seeing a return for once. It's no surprise though as their latest releases have been big hits.

But as we are often told when someone pees on the campfire in the Apple threads; 'sales and profit does not necessarily mean it's because they have the best product'. Haha, it probably already been said. Tongue in cheek.

You're right. Except the difference is this is actually a thread about Samsung sales and profits.

And as far as I know, no one has yet used these profits to pretend Samsung doesn't need to continue innovating, continue pushing great hardware/software, or that they don't still have areas to work on. If people start doing that, I'll join you in calling them out. I've already outlined where I think Samsung can still grow in a few threads around here, irrelevant of their latest successes. In fact, I say they ought to use their growing brand and might to re-negotiate more control over the carriers, which could lead to less carrier bloat and faster software updates (the two areas they will continue struggling with if they don't).

EDIT: This response came off more contentious than it was; I know you're joking.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

You're right. Except the difference is this is actually a thread about Samsung sales and profits.

And as far as I know, no one has yet used these profits to pretend Samsung doesn't need to continue innovating, continue pushing great hardware/software, or that they don't still have areas to work on. If people start doing that, I'll join you in calling them out. I've already outlined where I think Samsung can still grow in a few threads around here, irrelevant of their latest successes. In fact, I say they ought to use their growing brand and might to re-negotiate more control over the carriers, which could lead to less carrier bloat and faster software updates (the two areas they will continue struggling with if they don't).

EDIT: This response came off more contentious than it was; I know you're joking.

Yes I did say it tongue in cheek but it's the same for both sets of consumers at the end of the day. It just amused me at the time of writing.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Galaxy S7 is reportedly performing far better than the Galaxy S6

The Galaxy S6 was a proper evolutionary update over its predecessor as Samsung adopted a metal and glass combination that made the handset look and feel very high quality and while it did perform reasonably well, Samsung appears to have a real winner on its hands with the Galaxy S7. Multiple reports now suggest that the Galaxy S7 and the Galaxy S7 edge having been performing much better than their predecessors in the market, one report claims that Samsung has sold more than 10 million units of its new flagships combined.

Counterpoint Research says that Samsung has sold 20 percent more units of its new flagships in the first month alone as opposed to units of the Galaxy S6 and theGalaxy S6 edge it sold in the first month after launch. The research report mentions that Samsung has likely sold more than 10 million units, that’s sales to end customers and not just shipments to retailers, and that seems quite possible as Samsung’s earnings guidance for Q1 2016 seems to suggest that the resurgence of its mobile business in the high-end segment is courtesy of the new flagships.