What a bunch of blather. What's it to you which model someone buys? Your statement about the memory prices and upgrades is not rooted in reality. Period.
The price you quoted on the model going from 8 to 16 is still ridiculous. You say 200.00 (it costs me 230.00) to upgrade where crucial has it for 83.00 (this is the price on crucial's website, it will be cheaper elsewhere). Do you really not see the hosing for paying 200.00 or 230.00 for memory that cost the same to install?
Carping? Acting like a fish? What does fish have to do with it? Maybe you mean harping? Harping about paying 230.00 for a memory upgrade that could be done on the last model for 83.00?
Again, crucial is better than anything apple is buying in bulk unless some of it is from crucial. I started building and working on computers in the 80's and there is no way you are going to convince me crucial is not top notch memory. Apple does not use one brand of memory, they have different suppliers and can be different on 2 of the same model. You also talk like you have to be a rocket scientist to change memory, it's extremely easy. Unless it's soldered in of course.
I get it. You point your prayer rug toward cupertino several times a day. I like apple products a lot but they are doing this to get richer. As long as they have bots that defend this type of thing at all costs it will continue to happen. Not all consumers are ignorant drones, get over it. I don't see how anyone can with a straight face say this good especially since the last version was not this way. There's a small percentage of the population that have problems opening a can of beans....with a pull top. I can understand "those" people not caring at all, those of us that are not clumsy fool's see it as shutting us down.
Again, not everyone smokes cupertino crack. Your example of upgrading from 8 to 16 gb is an EVEN bigger cost percentage wise, even triple paying 230.00 instead of 83. Wise up, you are lost on this and burying yourself even deeper. The lowest model was an example, but the one you mentioned is even a higher percentage in cost. Not to mention you are not getting those 8gb free, you are paying apple's cost. The more you can upgrade yourself the cheaper.
No, you are not right, there is more of a cost difference on the higher model than the lower one. You get "hosed" even more on the higher model and shows your point of view is based on lack of actual knowledge.
No point in taking this any further then, I suggest you putting me on ignore as I am you. Maybe you can put everyone on ignore that have rosy, backside kissing things to say bout everything apple does.
The price you quoted on the model going from 8 to 16 is still ridiculous. You say 200.00 (it costs me 230.00) to upgrade where crucial has it for 83.00 (this is the price on crucial's website, it will be cheaper elsewhere). Do you really not see the hosing for paying 200.00 or 230.00 for memory that cost the same to install?
Carping? Acting like a fish? What does fish have to do with it? Maybe you mean harping? Harping about paying 230.00 for a memory upgrade that could be done on the last model for 83.00?
Again, crucial is better than anything apple is buying in bulk unless some of it is from crucial. I started building and working on computers in the 80's and there is no way you are going to convince me crucial is not top notch memory. Apple does not use one brand of memory, they have different suppliers and can be different on 2 of the same model. You also talk like you have to be a rocket scientist to change memory, it's extremely easy. Unless it's soldered in of course.
I get it. You point your prayer rug toward cupertino several times a day. I like apple products a lot but they are doing this to get richer. As long as they have bots that defend this type of thing at all costs it will continue to happen. Not all consumers are ignorant drones, get over it. I don't see how anyone can with a straight face say this good especially since the last version was not this way. There's a small percentage of the population that have problems opening a can of beans....with a pull top. I can understand "those" people not caring at all, those of us that are not clumsy fool's see it as shutting us down.
Again, not everyone smokes cupertino crack. Your example of upgrading from 8 to 16 gb is an EVEN bigger cost percentage wise, even triple paying 230.00 instead of 83. Wise up, you are lost on this and burying yourself even deeper. The lowest model was an example, but the one you mentioned is even a higher percentage in cost. Not to mention you are not getting those 8gb free, you are paying apple's cost. The more you can upgrade yourself the cheaper.
No, you are not right, there is more of a cost difference on the higher model than the lower one. You get "hosed" even more on the higher model and shows your point of view is based on lack of actual knowledge.
No point in taking this any further then, I suggest you putting me on ignore as I am you. Maybe you can put everyone on ignore that have rosy, backside kissing things to say bout everything apple does.
OK, I'm guilty...
Someone either upthread, or on another thread said that the difference to double the memory was $100. So that sounds reasonable to me. To go from 8g to 16g is only $200.00 on the fastest model. Who here would ever buy the 'Entry Model' of anything? I wouldn't. If you are carping about the cost of memory on the lowest performing system they make in that model, you really shouldn't be allowed here to carp about performance. Am I Right?
I kid...
I have had systems crash from 'bad' memory. It was a brand that I respect and have used for decades and aside from an HP Laserjet, has never let me down.
For me, the cost of going to the Apple Store to diagnose/replace a system, or the cost involved in diagnosing it myself, and living with a hobbled system waiting for the 'Lifetime Warranty Replacement Memory' to arrive is time I could be using my system and getting things done. I consider the price, if it is remotely reasonable, to be a good investment in a machine that I hope to have for at least 4 years.
I rarely upgrade my systems, once installed, except for my Sun server which got a major step up in processor speed, a doubling of the memory, and a SAS drive upgrade. But it's a server. I start all my MBP's with the max memory because at the time I last bought one, I needed the memory. Now I'd probably get by with the standard amount.
So 'reasonable' is an elastic concept, and if you are going to be buying a 'base Model' anything, expect to get hosed for major upgrades. So I'm not "wrong", from my point of view...
Just sayin'...
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Again, the key words here are 'base mini'.
And from a different point of view, Apple's price IS reasonable, because you can't upgrade on your own.
And for both of you: You can't even upgrade the processor on the 'base mini'! Do you really want to start that far behind? And you are complaining about the cost of memory upgrades? Really?
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