The REAL reason behind iPOD mini delays: FATAL DESIGN FLAW!

[swisswuff]

Damn who even cares about this anymore. iPod mini is gone and done with.

Whatever the monsieur says... I am sure one could pour more money into new electronic toys that also happen to play mp3 files.

Meanwhile, it seems as if I have found an effective fix; the static is *entirely* gone, and the iPod mini has resumed flawless function. What I refuse to see is why I have to pay 200-300 CHF for some little playback device that can be repaired using a saw and some tape. So I can watch some miniature videos, perhaps.

For anyone else who's interested: check this

 

[California]

Whatever the monsieur says... I am sure one could pour more money into new electronic toys that also happen to play mp3 files.

Meanwhile, it seems as if I have found an effective fix; the static is *entirely* gone, and the iPod mini has resumed flawless function. What I refuse to see is why I have to pay 200-300 CHF for some little playback device that can be repaired using a saw and some tape. So I can watch some miniature videos, perhaps.

For anyone else who's interested: check this

What is your beef? This thread is TWO YEARS OLD. Why the heck are you resurrecting it, now? You can't be that newbie. Weird complaint that was fixed years ago... but you are posting now? Weird weird weird....

 

[swisswuff]

What is your beef? [...] Weird complaint that was fixed years ago... but you are posting now?

This is an iPod mini thread. If you don't have, or relate to, iPod minis and their intrinsic problems, this is the wrong thread for you. We all know they're a couple of years old, these iPod minis. I am sure it doesn't matter whether I first conduct a "Forum search" and then append a post, or whether I open a new thread; mostly, the search/append strategy is the one to use on Forums.

Yesterday, I faced a 4-year old iPod mini with a specific problem and engineered it so it would be fixed. For the previous four years, this one was working perfectly well (not everyone plays soccer with them, so these devices do last), and yesterday, I was given the task of fixing it because of recently occuring crackling noise.

Usage of the term "weird problem": The problem can be precisely described and characterized. Hence, it is not weird. A weird problem is one where you can't put your finger on. The specific problem is a crackling noise, and it was first attributed to headphone jack problems, without that ever being proven as technical reason. I identified a specific problem, not a weird one.

Suggestion that this "was fixed": I seriously doubt that the problem itself ever found a concise fix. The complaint (towards Apple) may have seen customers seeing a replacement device - but not a specific fix being installed into their own device. Now, four years after we bought it, I seriously, seriously doubt that Apple would come up with "a fix". Likewise, people like you are not specifically helpful when fixing this problem.

It thus may be allowed to operate an old(er) device, deal with problems, post about them, and discuss possible solutions to a problem.

What should I say... "sorry that your iPod is newer", maybe? Or, "sorry I didn't break my iPod earlier for your proper perception of a timely calendar - forum post match?" This one now is fixed and may even run for some longer...

 

[bah-bah'd]

The degree of defensiveness (aka pro-Apple vs. being objective) to which people are willing to exercise just to defend an Apple product proves that Apple is more than just a company....it's a cult. Ever disagreed with anything a Scientologist says? Check their forums. The tones employed are reminiscent of the ones here.

I was just thinking how wierd all the bashers sounded... calling him stupid for opening an iPod... It is like, "OMG you OPENED your mac product? We must kick you to the edge of town and never speak of you again."

 

[swisswuff]

omg II

I was just thinking how wierd all the bashers sounded... calling him stupid for opening an iPod... It is like, "OMG you OPENED your mac product? We must kick you to the edge of town and never speak of you again."

LOL! and actually I see even more OMGs ... the first OMG is "Oh, they treated the iPod like an electronic device - keep it dry, don't let it fall down, put it in a padded bag for transport, etc - , so it lasted much longer than "the average iPod" is expected to "last"" - the second OMG is "oh, he can't just """get""" another iPod, but there's a price tag for both the replacement and repair to be considered?!?", and maybe the third OMG that'd be "oh, we haven't heard about this fix earlier?". Plus, as you say, "opened a Mac product". The last OMG is "oh, the device may be fixed but it doesn't "look" like an "iPod" any more". Too much....

 

[swisswuff]

Way to drag up an old thread. Seeing as how the mini is no longer produced, and any Mini's that did have the problem were under warranty, I think this is really a moot point.

*I* think it's a free fix to a problem that affects a device class (iPod mini) that still costs around 100-150 us$ a piece on online auctions in this country. Plus, it may be technically interesting to some.

My iPod mini now runs flawlessly as part of my car audio setup. The fixing didn't cost me anything (except some time and sticky tape). You can't economically top that with any newly purchased device.

So, *I* think this is a great point, actually. Not moot at all

 

[StealthRider]

Oh, puh-leeeeeeeeeze. You could certainly have started a new thread, and linked to this one for those of us that cared enough to read, without leaving us wondering why someone would be newbie-ish enough to reopen a thread that died years ago.

Oh, and double-posting is frowned upon too.

 

[wonga1127]

iPod Mini's IMO were the best, non-just iPod iPods released by Apple. They fit nice in the hand, the Click wheel was in just the right place, the case felt nice and fit in your hand well. They should drop this silly nano business and beef up the mini.

 

[GoCubsGo]

This is an iPod mini thread. If you don't have, or relate to, iPod minis and their intrinsic problems, this is the wrong thread for you.

Dude shut up. You ask for help and then you treat people like crap? Taking this thread from the dead is one thing, I don't know how "newbie" it is, but I guess the masses think that it is. Treating people like crap and trying to dictate exactly who should post here is just plain dumb.

 

[MacAficionado]

Edit

 

[swisswuff]

Dude shut up [...] crap [...] crap [...] dumb.

Interesting.

Normal forums would see threads first searched, then continued, rather than new threads opened up.

If you prefer a new thread, you are free to re-post my previously posted solution (somewhere up there) as a new thread. Thank you very much.

 

[steve_hill4]

Yesterday, I faced a 4-year old iPod mini with a specific problem and engineered it so it would be fixed. For the previous four years, this one was working perfectly well (not everyone plays soccer with them, so these devices do last), and yesterday, I was given the task of fixing it because of recently occuring crackling noise.

[sniff] I smell BS. The iPod Mini was not produced 4 years ago. In fact four years back they were just about switching to the 2G iPod, never mind the 3G which preceeded the Mini by quite some time.

I agree with others that a new topic could have been started without complaint from others, especially after two years on a board this size. I would also add that as a moderator from other boards, this should never have been on the Mac Computers board. We have an iTunes/iPod board for that. I even feel guilty for keeping this alive.

 

[swisswuff]

04 not 4 years

You're right!! I confused "4 years old" and 2004. It can't be 4 years old. It's got "2004" printed on the case. Sorry about that.

 

[AppleGuy08]

This is an iPod mini thread. If you don't have, or relate to, iPod minis and their intrinsic problems, this is the wrong thread for you. We all know they're a couple of years old, these iPod minis. I am sure it doesn't matter whether I first conduct a "Forum search" and then append a post, or whether I open a new thread; mostly, the search/append strategy is the one to use on Forums.

Yesterday, I faced a 4-year old iPod mini with a specific problem and engineered it so it would be fixed. For the previous four years, this one was working perfectly well (not everyone plays soccer with them, so these devices do last), and yesterday, I was given the task of fixing it because of recently occuring crackling noise.

Usage of the term "weird problem": The problem can be precisely described and characterized. Hence, it is not weird. A weird problem is one where you can't put your finger on. The specific problem is a crackling noise, and it was first attributed to headphone jack problems, without that ever being proven as technical reason. I identified a specific problem, not a weird one.

Suggestion that this "was fixed": I seriously doubt that the problem itself ever found a concise fix. The complaint (towards Apple) may have seen customers seeing a replacement device - but not a specific fix being installed into their own device. Now, four years after we bought it, I seriously, seriously doubt that Apple would come up with "a fix". Likewise, people like you are not specifically helpful when fixing this problem.

It thus may be allowed to operate an old(er) device, deal with problems, post about them, and discuss possible solutions to a problem.

What should I say... "sorry that your iPod is newer", maybe? Or, "sorry I didn't break my iPod earlier for your proper perception of a timely calendar - forum post match?" This one now is fixed and may even run for some longer...

Thats why i got smart unlike some of you all and sold that piece of **** mini to someone who didnt know anything about ipods. Used that money to buy a nano. If the minis have soooo many problems that you all complain about, why not just sell or use the thing as an external HD. Thats what i did with my 3G ipod after the screen went out. Now its a great little HDD for my ibook.

Instead of spending money on replacement parts for the mini, buy a nano, or better yet, a video, or even better, wait for the new iPod.

 

[California]

This is an iPod mini thread. If you don't have, or relate to, iPod minis and their intrinsic problems, this is the wrong thread for you. We all know they're a couple of years old, these iPod minis. I am sure it doesn't matter whether I first conduct a "Forum search" and then append a post, or whether I open a new thread; mostly, the search/append strategy is the one to use on Forums.

Yesterday, I faced a 4-year old iPod mini with a specific problem and engineered it so it would be fixed. For the previous four years, this one was working perfectly well (not everyone plays soccer with them, so these devices do last), and yesterday, I was given the task of fixing it because of recently occuring crackling noise.

Usage of the term "weird problem": The problem can be precisely described and characterized. Hence, it is not weird. A weird problem is one where you can't put your finger on. The specific problem is a crackling noise, and it was first attributed to headphone jack problems, without that ever being proven as technical reason. I identified a specific problem, not a weird one.

Suggestion that this "was fixed": I seriously doubt that the problem itself ever found a concise fix. The complaint (towards Apple) may have seen customers seeing a replacement device - but not a specific fix being installed into their own device. Now, four years after we bought it, I seriously, seriously doubt that Apple would come up with "a fix". Likewise, people like you are not specifically helpful when fixing this problem.

It thus may be allowed to operate an old(er) device, deal with problems, post about them, and discuss possible solutions to a problem.

What should I say... "sorry that your iPod is newer", maybe? Or, "sorry I didn't break my iPod earlier for your proper perception of a timely calendar - forum post match?" This one now is fixed and may even run for some longer...

Uh, no this isn't a iPod pissing contest. I could care less about what iPod people have -- it is completely annoying for you to jump on a TWO YEAR OLD THREAD and start typing as if to totally ignore the historicity of your problem and your iPod.

Be honest and start a new and interesting thread for anyone out there with a mini still.

It is a time wasting confusion to be reading threads this old as if they were right now, that is my issue with your post.

In the tech world, two years might as well be ten, so you forced this MR member, at least, to read dated and already resolved iPod mini issues -- plus to have this thread's title blaring out at us: The REAL reason behind iPOD mini delays: FATAL DESIGN FLAW! as if Apple has done something cheesy and dastardly in the moment sucks. I clicked on because it sounded like Apple had done something RECENTLY that was poorly designed. Your resurrection of two year old thread with issues that had already proved the title wrong gave a really bad impression of Apple, one that they don't deserve.

That's why it's weird and newbie of you to have resurrected this ancient and archaic thread. Instead of weird, I suppose I meant "troll".

 

[flyguy451]

I disagree

Your resurrection of two year old thread with issues that had already proved the title wrong gave a really bad impression of Apple, one that they don't deserve.

That's why it's weird and newbie of you to have resurrected this ancient and arachaic thread. Instead of weird, I suppose I meant "troll".

Sorry, I have to disagree with you. Although the title of the thread does not entirely agree with the subject at hand the body sure does and it seems to be a continuation of the the existing thread topic.

A few other points: Slapping someone with a derogatory "Newbie" tag, or seeing it attached to their handle is disenguious. "Newbie" means new to this forum, it does not mean new to any forum and it certainly doesn't mean new to Macs, computers or normal civil discourse. In fact, even that's not true. "Newbie" really means having a low posting count. I myself have been a longtime member but hardly ever reply to posts.

You may feel that this topic would have been better served with a new thread but other forums that I have been a member of strongly discourage starting new threads when an "on-topic" thread already exists. Top-posting, bottom-posting and quoting "rules" also vary from forum to forum but are merely developed customs. I hope you never travel outside the borders of your country if you react with such vigor to encountering a different custom.

In short - cut the guy some slack. You should face the possibility that you may be wrong.

Lastly, look up the meaning of "troll" because you're way off mark here.

 

[Abstract]

People who bring up threads this old are like people who drive 55 km/h in a 60 km/h zone. Yes, it's perfectly legal, but I wouldn't want to drive near the vicinity of this person, nor would I think that this guy has any clue as to how things work on the road.

Start a new thread, summarize what problem you had previously in around 1 paragraph, and for a full history (if you really do think it's THAT important), just link to this thread.

 

[California]

Top-posting, bottom-posting and quoting "rules" also vary from forum to forum but are merely developed customs. I hope you never travel outside the borders of your country if you react with such vigor to encountering a different custom.

Lastly, look up the meaning of "troll" because you're way off mark here.

Well i just got back from abroad and had no problems but enjoyed the differences immensely. No, I really did smell a troll. Why else the two year old post, the whiny overdiscussion of a long resolved issue, and the stoic defense of such? Guy doesn't like mac.

 

[GimmeSlack12]

Isn't it called an iPod Nano?

FATAL DESIGN FLAW!!! hahah, good title lam-o

 

[swisswuff]

nor would I think that this guy has any clue as to how things work on the road

Very funny. I just fixed a crackling-noise-iPod mini problem without any additional parts other than isolating tape and cardboard. For regular operating conditions (headphones / speakers on 3.5mm-audio out jack), this fix is permanent. Your mileage may vary.

 

[rjgonzales]

Isn't it called an iPod Nano?

Sure it is, but two years ago, when this thread was started, it was called the iPod mini.