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HSVBamaBob

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I have witnessed that people in my university, and a lot of people on social media, have adopted ChatGPT into their workflow. These "co-pilots" are a crucial part of working and they live permanently on the side. You are constantly sending it ideas and editing the draft. For that to happen, you need a keyboard which makes the iPad without a keyboard useless for people working in 2023. Of course, people say you can use the iPad with a keyboard but at that point, you might as well use the MacBook instead.

What are your thoughts on iPad's place in a world of AI butlers, like ChatGPT?
iPad Keyboard folio on my 10" iPad Pro M2 works like a dream - ChatGPT can be in one window and whatever else in another.
I don't see what the problem is - shoot, hook it up to a external monitor if you want more screen real estate and even a external keyboard - *poof* end of issues :)
 
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HSVBamaBob

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Whatever the hell ChatGPT is has absolutely no additional bearing on the fact that iPad is for play and the Mac is for work.
Oddly enough as the iPad matures, the *only* thing I need my Studio for is heaving photo editing (I guess I won't need that either once Luminar releases NEO/iPad)

IMHO, a iPad Pro W/keyboard folio or portable BT keyboard) - coupled with a external drive + monitor if you need it) are more than adequate to take care of normal business needs (email, slack, msgs, spreadsheets/docs/presentations et al)
 

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Oddly enough as the iPad matures, the *only* thing I need my Studio for is heaving photo editing (I guess I won't need that either once Luminar releases NEO/iPad)

IMHO, a iPad Pro W/keyboard folio or portable BT keyboard) - coupled with a external drive + monitor if you need it) are more than adequate to take care of normal business needs (email, slack, msgs, spreadsheets/docs/presentations et al)
If that's all you're doing, a lot of things are adequate. That's not what is meant by "work" on devices.
 

nStyle

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I was thinking the exact opposite the other day. iPads are all the computing power we will need once AI ends up doing everything.

Already use my 12.9” w/ MKB more than any other computer and I own a 14” MBP.
 
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Wollombi

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I'm really not following your logic. Your iPad is useless because you won't buy a keyboard because you might as well buy a Mac at that point? No one is using keyboards with iPads?
I'm very tech oriented. Early adopter, etc. with a lot of things, but not all. But I just got a magic keyboard for my new iPad Pro yesterday, even with all the other tech options at my disposal. Keyboards are still relevant with the iPad in many use cases, and what YOUR use case is, is the only thing that matters. People keep thinking the newest tech has to be the *only* tech for everybody, but there is no such thing as a one size fits all technology. Not yet, at any rate, and probably not ever.

I always inwardly chuckle at people who say "<insert technology here> is obsolete". After a certain period of time, sure, but within that envelop nothing is obsolete if it is still meeting your want or need.
 

Wollombi

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If that's all you're doing, a lot of things are adequate. That's not what is meant by "work" on devices.
Great. What to you mean by "work", then? Photo editing? Music editing? VPN into your office resources? Writing code? Do tell! (BTW all of those things can be done on an iPad, and most of them don't require the Pro models).
 
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sparksd

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Great. What to you mean by "work", then? Photo editing? Music editing? VPN into your office resources? Writing code? Do tell! (BTW all of those things can be done on an iPad, and most of them don't require the Pro models).

His comment makes me laugh. Decades ago, when I "worked" the oil patch, the guys I worked with would say a job you do on a computer "ain't real work". I think this is the same level of bunk regarding the iPad. You can do a lot of "real work" with an iPad.
 
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sparksd

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nah ...

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dtm84

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If you just use your ipad to cheat at university you are doing a couple things wrong.
 

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given me sample code that would not compile several times.
I heard many times that AI will take my job (programmer) but so far it wouldn't pass a job interview based on basic mistakes it makes in SQL syntax. It sure is impressive, but one has to remember machine learning is only quickly putting together stuff it read elsewhere. Right now it's more artificial than intelligent.

I think I'll be retired before this becomes a real problem.
 

NT1440

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I heard many times that AI will take my job (programmer) but so far it wouldn't pass a job interview based on basic mistakes it makes in SQL syntax. It sure is impressive, but one has to remember machine learning is only quickly putting together stuff it read elsewhere. Right now it's more artificial than intelligent.
This is why the term AI has lost all meaning, just like ML.

In the business world the context is gone. AI/ML has been conflated with General AI, and we’re no closer to general AI today than we were 3 decades ago.

“Doing something quick based on previous training” (AI)

Vs

A sentient artificial entity that can actually learn, not just try context clues to go through a decision tree (General AI)

People are buying into the illusion of intelligence in chatGPT/Bing/Bard. These tools will get better for specific things as their models get trained, but this approach will *never* break into General AI because conscious thought is not merely retrieving information quickly, it’s understanding what that information is and being able abstract new and novel data from it. We have no real understanding how that works in human (or animal) consciousness, so there’s no way these new gee-whiz results that some are predicting.
 

jerryk

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I don't understand the issue. You can obviously use voice input or the screen keyboard to ask the question. And then copy and paste, copy the response into a document with your finger. And you can get an iPad keyboard for your iPad if that is better for a user. The bottom line is that there is no coupling to the input device and using chatGPT.
 
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jerryk

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Just out of curiosity, I interacted with ChatGPT for it to write a sermon on Colossians 3:1-17. Because of the questions that I asked of it, the results were very, very close to what I would've done. We've come a long way since Eliza.

I'm trying to understand what the OP means by ChatGPT making the iPad useless. That's like saying my iPhone makes my Kia K5 useless. o_O
The interesting thing is by using ChatGPT we are creating the data is trained with, and the human annotators use to direct the model. So, each time we use it adding data and helping to directs the team's effort to improve its performance.
 

Pakaku

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These "co-pilots" are a crucial part of working and they live permanently on the side. You are constantly sending it ideas and editing the draft.
So it's a crutch? I may be lazy, but I'm not that lazy...
 

patmondal

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I have witnessed that people in my university, and a lot of people on social media, have adopted ChatGPT into their workflow. These "co-pilots" are a crucial part of working and they live permanently on the side. You are constantly sending it ideas and editing the draft. For that to happen, you need a keyboard which makes the iPad without a keyboard useless for people working in 2023. Of course, people say you can use the iPad with a keyboard but at that point, you might as well use the MacBook instead.

What are your thoughts on iPad's place in a world of AI butlers, like ChatGPT?
Totally makes sense.
I mean my car is totally useless since I can’t attach my bullock cart to it and pull it with my car. Paper is useless and paper companies are out of business since we started using calculators to do math and don’t have to do calculations anymore.
Keyboards are useless since Apple released GUI instead of using DOS to enter commands for the computer. I haven’t touched my keyboard in decades since the mouse was released.

I use my iPad to watch videos, read news articles, etc. Small phone screen is too small, but am not at my Mac or doing other stuff on it. Rarely use the keyboard on the iPad.

Never used chatgpt. So pretty sure this post doesn’t apply to me. And my wife. And my dad. And my in-laws. And most people I know.
 

Shanghaichica

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Can ChatGPT allow me to colour and draw? can chatGPT play my videos and edit my photos? Can ChatGPT scan my documents? If not I think I’ll carry on using my iPad in the same ways I did before ChatGPT.
 
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riverfreak

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The only times I remember using ChatGPT is to make a quick gag or because I was really bored.

I plan to be very stubborn if AI really is becoming our butlers, as I like working solo, and being independent has it's benefits:

No rules
No distractions
You are in full control

The iPad is the perfect tool for an AI rebellion (or to answer your question, it would be an outlier), as it makes every tool available that is perfect for humans (and only humans) to use: Pencil for drawing, keyboard for typing, and touchscreen for managing.

I'm betting that ChatGPT is just a fad, but considering how ambitious companies can be these days, I would not put it past them to adopt important AI features as well. Google and Bing as an example. So I'll just stop being involved with them as much as my workflow allows without feeling like there is something missing.
ChatGPT was released in November. You can’t remember when you used it?

You’re betting that it’s a fad? That’s a bet pretty much nobody else is making at this point.

These tools will — and already have — become pervasive to your workflow regardless of whether you choose it or not.
 

riverfreak

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Clickbait post title is clickbait.

Still, there is some merit to the idea that in these early days, much knowledge work is going to transition to iterative passes through ChatGPT like engines which won’t be easy to do on an iPad.

That is, until ChatGPT subsumes most knowledge work anyways. Good time to know a trade.
 
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