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BSben

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Apple doesn't "Get" services - esp. ones where public contribution is more that theirs. Take google maps - it became so good because people like you and me could contribute to it... Apple maps does have report a problem, but then again, it's not as good as google's...plus you must use a apple device. google maps corrections for a business can e sent by a manager today sitting on a, say, Dell PC.

You are right there is no 'report a problem' function, it is called 'report an issue' in Apple Maps....
 

macfacts

macrumors 603
Oct 7, 2012
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It was the other way around. Google refused to offer iOS auto routing so maps were static only. Apple developed and released Apple Maps to provide users with the ability to route with GPS on the phone. Google later added the service to their app. Apple was at the time forced to make a move or lose to Android due to lack of GPS routing.

What happened was Google didn't want to allow turn by turn voice navigation in the iOS app unless Apple had other Google apps pre installed. Apple wanted more and more but didnt want to offer anything else in exchange.

Apple just kept quite and ended negotiations without a word. Then all of a sudden Apple released their own map app.
 

JT2002TJ

macrumors 68020
Nov 7, 2013
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What happened was Google didn't want to allow turn by turn voice navigation in the iOS app unless Apple had other Google apps pre installed. Apple wanted more and more but didnt want to offer anything else in exchange.

Apple just kept quite and ended negotiations without a word. Then all of a sudden Apple released their own map app.

I just installed a new head unit in my truck, it is a pioneer with Apple CarPlay. So, I'm stuck with Apple's maps until either Apple, or Google allows CarPlay with google maps. My other option is to buy the Pineer add on to have their GPS with traffic.

If Apple doesn't step up their Maps, I might just have to do it.
 

fjarl

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Sep 13, 2015
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You are right there is no 'report a problem' function, it is called 'report an issue' in Apple Maps....

Yeah, but it ususally does very little. When the street outside my old apartment was rebuilt and turned straight instead of curved, I tested reporting that to Google Maps, Bing Maps and Apple Maps the same day.

About a week later I got an email from Google saying "You were right! They changed the street, we've fixed that now, thanks!".

Got nothing from Apple or Microsoft, and it took them a year to change their maps.
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
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Yeah, but it ususally does very little. When the street outside my old apartment was rebuilt and turned straight instead of curved, I tested reporting that to Google Maps, Bing Maps and Apple Maps the same day.

About a week later I got an email from Google saying "You were right! They changed the street, we've fixed that now, thanks!".

Got nothing from Apple or Microsoft, and it took them a year to change their maps.
On the other hand many others have had good success with it.
 

Razeus

macrumors 603
Jul 11, 2008
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Not surprised. Google's native apps blow Apple's natives out of the water. Plus Google updates their apps through the year with new features and updates, while Apple seems to like waiting 1 year, only to find they are 2 years behind.
 

BeeGood

macrumors 68000
Sep 15, 2013
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Not surprised. Google's native apps blow Apple's natives out of the water. Plus Google updates their apps through the year with new features and updates, while Apple seems to like waiting 1 year, only to find they are 2 years behind.

You know, this is something I've never understood. Apple could push updates through the App Store, but instead they wait for iOS releases to give apps what often amounts to a ho-hum update, or worse.
 

C DM

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Oct 17, 2011
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You know, this is something I've never understood. Apple could push updates through the App Store, but instead they wait for iOS releases to give apps what often amounts to a ho-hum update, or worse.
Don't think they can do that all that much for built-in apps.
 

maxsix

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Give Apple another year or so. Currently the risk one takes is too high.

Conversely if you know where you're going and want a good laugh at the wildly inaccurate results that are returned, let Apple Maps entertain you.
 

BeeGood

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Sep 15, 2013
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Lot 23E. Somewhere in Georgia.
Don't think they can do that all that much for built-in apps.

I don't understand why that would be the case. Apple has apps in the App Store that get updated outside of iOS updates. Also, the podcast app has existed both a downloadable app and a "built in" app. It seems that they could if they wanted to, but choose not to.

Maybe there is a technical reason/risk but I'm just not seeing it.
 

kch50428

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Oct 30, 2015
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Give Apple another year or so. Currently the risk one takes is too high.

Conversely if you know where you're going and want a good laugh at the wildly inaccurate results that are returned, let Apple Maps entertain you.
Strange - I have the experience you claim as humorous from my use of Google... Apple Maps has performed quite well in travels around rural Northern Iowa, Southern MN, and SW Wisconsin...
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
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I don't understand why that would be the case. Apple has apps in the App Store that get updated outside of iOS updates. Also, the podcast app has existed both a downloadable app and a "built in" app. It seems that they could if they wanted to, but choose not to.

Maybe there is a technical reason/risk but I'm just not seeing it.
It seems once it's built in there are likely some low level system ties to something in one way or another which could make it so that things could be updated when the OS itself is being updated (at the very least because a reboot might be needed or something like that).
 

0000757

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Dec 16, 2011
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Give Apple another year or so. Currently the risk one takes is too high.

Conversely if you know where you're going and want a good laugh at the wildly inaccurate results that are returned, let Apple Maps entertain you.

I've used Apple Maps since it launched (whenever I had an iPhone) and it's never taken me to the wrong location.

I know I'm only one person, but I'd say the risk is non-existent, at least where I live.
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
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I've used Apple Maps since it launched (whenever I had an iPhone) and it's never taken me to the wrong location.

I know I'm only one person, but I'd say the risk is non-existent, at least where I live.
Well at least surely not simply absolutely non-existent.
 

0000757

macrumors 68040
Dec 16, 2011
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Well at least surely not simply absolutely non-existent.

Well I mean in comparison to Google Maps (which was just as accurate and just as fast and gave the same route most of the time when I had it on Android).

Then again I don't ever use street view, transit, multiple stops, or any other fancy features ever. In the situation of "take me from point A to point B" Apple Maps has worked since the iOS 6 days.
 

kch50428

macrumors 6502
Oct 30, 2015
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I've not had any issues with Apple Maps that I've not had with any number of Garmin Nuvis I've owned and used... people are making more of the issues with Apple Maps than actually exist IMO.
 

0000757

macrumors 68040
Dec 16, 2011
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I've not had any issues with Apple Maps that I've not had with any number of Garmin Nuvis I've owned and used... people are making more of the issues with Apple Maps than actually exist IMO.

Well the problems definitely existed. You can see screenshots/reports of all the failures that it had....back with iOS 6.

I think with iOS 9 its quite good for a standard maps app, though GMaps has some more features than Maps does.
 

Razeus

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Jul 11, 2008
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I'm not sure why Apple does this. They have the manpower and dollars to do it.

They REALLY need to release updates to their natives more frequently. It keeps the "what's new" aspect for their users. Waiting a year for an app update is pretty silly, especially when the competition is sooooo far ahead of app usability and features.

With it's email, photos, maps, virtual assistants, calendar, etc., Google's offers are so much better and get updated all the time. I just don't understand Apple anymore.

My only explanation is that Apple doesn't hoard user data to make money, so they don't give a flying flip about it they way Google does. Google has incentive to keep adding features that makes the user want to continue to use it. That's probably why Apple apps seem so half baked. They are just enough to get you going, but that's were it stops. It seems bizarre, because it would seem that Apple would WANT its users to use their apps exclusively, but then again, you can't take a 30% cut from the App Store doing that.
 

lovewd

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Aug 28, 2013
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I actually just made the switch back to Apple maps. In my personal experience, every time I take a break from Apple maps and use google maps, when I come back, it seems that maps has improved.
 

JT2002TJ

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Nov 7, 2013
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I actually just made the switch back to Apple maps. In my personal experience, every time I take a break from Apple maps and use google maps, when I come back, it seems that maps has improved.

Apple maps has clearly improved, and continues to do so. The problem is, Google maps also improves at the same, or better rate. Because of this, it seems like Apple maps will never be on par with Google maps.

Apple and Google should get together, stop fighting, and develope maps together. This fighting between Google and Apple is getting old. It just hurts Android and Apple users. It is sad to know two of the biggest companies on earth can't play nice with each other.
 

maxsix

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I've used Apple Maps since it launched (whenever I had an iPhone) and it's never taken me to the wrong location.

I know I'm only one person, but I'd say the risk is non-existent, at least where I live.
I travel in both major metropolitan cities and towns of all sizes. The number of times Apple maps makes big errors that would have a substantial impact on time lost driving to the wrong place is mind boggling. Truly a shocking experience. Apple has no clue...
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
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I travel in both major metropolitan cities and towns of all sizes. The number of times Apple maps makes big errors that would have a substantial impact on time lost driving to the wrong place is mind boggling. Truly a shocking experience. Apple has no clue...
Apparently there are others who have pretty much the opposite experience.
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
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Some may not be aware... The USA is a big place.

Unique to AppleLand Residents: "mine is fine"

Translation: Apple Is Perfect, I don't care if you have a different experience.
Or the opposite, if someone has an issue of some sort (as is the case with pretty much anything and everything in the world), then it must mean that Apple has no clue and is doomed and those who are using it are just mindless drones essentially. It all swings just as easily the other way around when extreme absolute paths like that are taken.
 
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