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iTom17

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Thanks for all the feedback guys!

A wonderful UX designer named Zuno Young took his own take on the concept, and his mockups are definitely better than mine! I suggest everyone also look at his work! LINK
Wow, that concept from his is really awesome! I'd love to see something like that, at least with the option to enable/disable collapsing notifications. Not only is it more practical, it just looks stunning as well. :p

Please make him have this send to Apple. As stulaw11 says, this is just the first beta. They usually change a lot of stuff before the final release, especially in the first few betas. So I'd not be surprised if they would use the concept and implement something like it.
 

Fernandez21

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I kinda like it, but I would really miss the ability to interact. I use both android and iPhone, one thing I like about the iPhone is if I get say 10 emails, from the lock screen or notification panel I can manage them. I can delete some and mark others as read, while more important ones I can then open and view in app.

But on android where they collapse, I can only do that as they come in, but if I'm not on top of it and my inbox piles up, I'm now forced to go into the mail app to manage it.

Maybe a combination of the two, where they collapse but you could say swipe down on the notification to expand them back into individual notifications again?
 

212rikanmofo

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I like your idea, and I also agree that notifications are kind of sloppy... having a new window for each notification, especially when it's coming from one app makes it very cluttered. I like your idea and really hope Apple will improve this before the final version of iOS 10. Have you submit your feedback to Apple yet? The notification system in iOS needs to be refined.
 

mattoligy

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Thanks for all the feedback guys!

A wonderful UX designer named Zuno Young took his own take on the concept, and his mockups are definitely better than mine! I suggest everyone also look at his work! LINK

Love the mockups, simply stunning and such a great idea.
 

Lucas30Araujo

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"A wonderful UX designer named Zuno Young took his own take on the concept, and his mockups are definitely better than mine!"

Actually, I think both are great concepts. Keep up the good work. You are talented.
 

Fernandez21

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This is what I mean, when you group notifications together you can't act on them, so in one of my emails accounts it just lists my emails but I can't do anything about them except go to my email app. Where as when they're individual I can act on them, I can delete, reply, or mark as read all from the lock screen or notification panel.

Unless they come up with a way to do both, I much prefer individual notifications.
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0000757

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This is what I mean, when you group notifications together you can't act on them, so in one of my emails accounts it just lists my emails but I can't do anything about them except go to my email app. Where as when they're individual I can act on them, I can delete, reply, or mark as read all from the lock screen or notification panel.

Unless they come up with a way to do both, I much prefer individual notifications.
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I think the solution to that would be to make the grouped notification able to then further expand to show each individual notification, thereby allowing interaction without having to just launch the app.
 

i0Nic

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I think the solution to that would be to make the grouped notification able to then further expand to show each individual notification, thereby allowing interaction without having to just launch the app.
This is exactly how it works in Android N, so Android is still a step ahead in this area.

You receive the grouped notifications like usual, but then you can slowly swipe it down to expand it out and action the individual notifications within it.
 

Michael Goff

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I don't like it. The idea makes it visually pleasing but also makes notifications less useful by default.
 

mpavilion

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I would just like for notifications to consistently clear from the pull-down pane once you've viewed the thing that generated the notification (i.e., directly through the app itself, not by clicking on the notification). Many apps still don't seem to do this. It makes that pane cluttered with "old stuff" and feel like a place i don't want to visit often, because I know I'll have to "clean it up."
 
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mattoligy

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I would just like for notifications to consistently clear from the pull-down pane once you've viewed the thing that generated the notification (i.e., directly through the app itself, not by clicking on the notification). Many apps still don't seem to do this. It makes that pane cluttered with "old stuff" and feel like a place i don't want to visit often, because I know I'll have to "clean it up."

An app would need an API to achieve this I think!? Not sure if there is one... But that is a really good point and idea.
 

0000757

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This is what I mean, when you group notifications together you can't act on them, so in one of my emails accounts it just lists my emails but I can't do anything about them except go to my email app. Where as when they're individual I can act on them, I can delete, reply, or mark as read all from the lock screen or notification panel.

Unless they come up with a way to do both, I much prefer individual notifications.
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The solution would be when you tap a notification group, it expands to show all the individual notifications, rather than how Android does it where it launches the app. That way the notifications can keep the interactiveness, but the Notification Center can be clean.
 

matrix07

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iOS 10 added a much needed and complete overhaul of the notification system. Personally, I accept this new redesign with open arms. However, there seems to be one major complaint: they take up a lot of space. Now, it's easy to blame the design of the notifications, and that's definitely part of the situation, but realistically, it's due to how iOS notifications work.

Currently, iOS handles notifications by creating a unique notification for every interaction with an app. To manage the multiple notifications, Apple offers an option to group notifications by app. If I have 5 Facebook notifications, I have 5 individual notifications. If I have 8 texts, I have eight individual notifications, etc., etc. This is the system Apple has used since the introduction of the Notification Center in iOS 5.

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Example A: Multiple Twitter Notifications
The problem with this current system is that notifications become easily cluttered. An active group chat can result in hundreds of individual notifications. For example I'm in a group chat of friends with about 12 active people, and I have to leave it muted anytime I choose not to participate, due to the amount of notifications that collect. In addition, this means that important information can get lost in the sea of notifications.

However, a solution exists, and it can be observed on any Android phone running Lollipop or newer. Currently, Android handles multiple notifications from the same application by grouping each event into one notification for that application. This allows the Notification Center to still display many different notifications, but in a design that is cleaner than what iOS provides.

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Example B: Android's Combined Notifications

The obvious solution to this issue is to create a single notification for what an app generates. I'm currently working an example with Apple's UI elements, but here's a sketch of how iOS notifications should be in the future:
As you can see, this approach allows you to address the two major notification issues: organization and screen real estate.

In addition, this concept can be taken further, by allowing applications to create unique notifications for independent events, such as two different group chats, or two different email accounts:

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This solves the major issue of how iOS notifications are displayed.





Issues:

Problem: One issue of concern I've come up with is how you can still make the notifications interactive. For example an app may have specific force touch/interactions associated with that notification, so combining them into one list poses a challenge on how to access those actions.

Possible Solution: Interacting with the notification group allows you to then see a normal list of notifications (how it's currently displayed), and then notification actions can be taken from there.




Closing:

What do you guys think? I would like to get feedback and critiques, negative and positive. What do you guys like about the idea? What do you dislike? What could be improved?

Thanks for reading! I'll have actual iOS screenshots of the concept up soon.


No. In your example, it will be harder if I want to respond only to Casey but not Austin.
 
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0000757

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No. In your example, it will be harder if I want to respond only to Casey but not Austin.

You'd 3D Touch the notification and it expands to show the list of notifications, and then you can interact with them individually again.
 

Zirel

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This is what I mean, when you group notifications together you can't act on them, so in one of my emails accounts it just lists my emails but I can't do anything about them except go to my email app. Where as when they're individual I can act on them, I can delete, reply, or mark as read all from the lock screen or notification panel.

Unless they come up with a way to do both, I much prefer individual notifications.
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This settles it.

Also, many times, you receive. e.g. one Notification from Snapchat, then one from iMessage, then another from Snaptchat, and it's better to just have them displayed chronologically.
 

lagwagon

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No. In your example, it will be harder if I want to respond only to Casey but not Austin.
That's great but.. the target is really small and it adds additional step.

I agree with both of these statements.

The whole point of the new notifications are to 3D Touch anywhere on one to jump right into the conversation and reply (and see replies back)

The purposed change makes that harder by adding a step and making the targets to 3D Touch a specific person to reply to too small.
[doublepost=1467525638][/doublepost]One shouldn't have to expand things as if they are digging to a sub folder within a folder to reply to someone.
 
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