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The Tiger Thread (Mac OS X 10.4)

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It's a modified Oroborus window manager for XDarwin (same as Apple's X11) that mimics the Aqua look for better integration in the OXS system. Gives some other options , like hiding menubar and dock, themes... ect.
 
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not sure where this should go, so figured id plonk it here, but thanks to @r6mile I recently got my hands on an ATI Radeon 2600 XT from a MacPro3,1 I have wondered for a long time if they would work in Tiger/if I could make it work, and the answer is yes I can :) (I had been curious on this front since the iMac7,1 shipped with tiger and used ATI Graphics cards of the same generation, and the ATI Radeon 2600 XT's device ID was in those tiger drivers, so was quite curious to see what it would do!)

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started with a 10.4.10 iMac7,1 install DVD, installed that to an SSD via a VM, slotted it into my MP1,1 and it booted right up!, then installed the 10.4.11 (non Combo) update and it kept working :)

I will test in the coming days if it will work without the 10.4.10 iMac7,1 install DVD (but it is downloadable on the internet, its where I got my images from!)

with this working you could on say a MacPro3,1 or Xserve2,1 multiboot every intel version of OS X with graphics support on one mac! (although im not sure what the status on big sur is... , but you could do 10.4.11-10.15.6 for sure)

(sadly I dont have a MP3,1/XS2,1 so someone else can do that, can also be done a MBP4,1 or iMac7,1/8,1)
 
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LightBulbFun said:
not sure where this should go, so figured id plonk it here, but thanks to @r6mile I recently got my hands on an ATI Radeon 2600 XT from a MacPro3,1 I have wondered for a long time if they would work in Tiger/if I could make it work, and the answer is yes I can :) (I had been curious on this front since the iMac7,1 shipped with tiger and used ATI Graphics cards of the same generation, and the ATI Radeon 2600 XT's device ID was in those tiger drivers, so was quite curious to see what it would do!)

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started with a 10.4.10 iMac7,1 install DVD, installed that to an SSD via a VM, slotted it into my MP1,1 and it booted right up!, then installed the 10.4.11 (non Combo) update and it kept working :)

I will test in the coming days if it will work without the 10.4.10 iMac7,1 install DVD (but it is downloadable on the internet, its where I got my images from!)

with this working you could on say a MacPro3,1 or Xserve2,1 multiboot every intel version of OS X with graphics support on one mac! (although im not sure what the status on big sur is... , but you could do 10.4.11-10.15.6 for sure)

(sadly I dont have a MP3,1/XS2,1 so someone else can do that, can also be done a MBP4,1 or iMac7,1/8,1)
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In terms of wide OS support, I detailed in this thread a few years ago my attempts to install Tiger on my 2008 iMac, which was mostly successful, it works 100% other than the sound. You can use a USB DAC and some speakers/headphones to restore sound though. The 2008 iMac works up to Catalina (might need Wi-Fi card replacement) and we'll see on Big Sur.

Getting it up on a Mac Pro and installing newer versions would probably be best though, because you can add a huge hard drive and have 15+ years of Mac software all on one machine ready to go, on a fairly performant machine.
 
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LightBulbFun said:
not sure where this should go, so figured id plonk it here, but thanks to @r6mile I recently got my hands on an ATI Radeon 2600 XT from a MacPro3,1 I have wondered for a long time if they would work in Tiger/if I could make it work, and the answer is yes I can :)

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with this working you could on say a MacPro3,1 or Xserve2,1 multiboot every intel version of OS X with graphics support on one mac! (although im not sure what the status on big sur is... , but you could do 10.4.11-10.15.6 for sure)

(sadly I dont have a MP3,1/XS2,1 so someone else can do that, can also be done a MBP4,1 or iMac7,1/8,1)
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Very glad it worked! I don't presume you mean using the 2600XT to run Mojave/Catalina? That card is very slow even on High Sierra on my 3,1, I dare to think how it runs on the latter two...

But if you mean using a 2600XT to run early OSX, and another Metal GPU to run the later versions, then yes you could definitely do that!
 
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Hi All, I have just got my hands on a Apple Power Macintosh G5 "Quad Core" (2.5).

When I try to boot from a Tiger 10.4 DVD, I get kernel panic?

Any ideas how I can install OS onto this old beast?

I have a Mac Pro 1,1 flashed to 2,1. Can I install an OS onto that and move to the G5?

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149TM said:
I have a DVD version but get kernel panic when the DVD boots up?
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Your DVD is probably version 10.4.0. The Quad requires at least 10.4.2 which is why it panics. The 10.4.6 version I linked to is new enough to work fine on the Quad.
 
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Thank you.

Managed to get the system installed at last.

It's working but the two fan does blow non stop?

What can be the cause, any tips.

Many Thanks
 
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I think we need to start a Leopard thread. I still have my G5. (and g4 and a bunch of other stuff)
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Protip: If you use Tiger in MacPorts and something doesn't build, definitely search for the Port on https://ports.macports.org/ and check the trac tickets. Everything basically works, but some stuff needs a bit of hand-holding.

I'm currently trying to install git on Tiger (well, really, I'm trying to install Squid, but not having git makes things annoying and I hadn't realized it would be an ordeal!). So far, I've needed to add PortGroup legacysupport 1.0 to the lmdb Portfile to make that build, and run sudo port select python python27 to build llvm-3.4. Extremely easy fixes, but you still have to know what to do, and both were in the MacPorts Trac.
 
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The fact that MacPorts works on Tiger is freaking impressive. From what I can tell, their strategy for most ports on Tiger is to:
  1. Use Tiger's ancient GCC 4.0.1 to compile a partial copy of GCC 4.2.
  2. Use that partial copy of GCC 4.2 to compile a full copy of GCC 4.2.
  3. Use that full copy of GCC 4.2 to compile GCC 7.
  4. Use GCC 7 to compile whatever you're actually trying to install.
Incredible.
 
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Wowfunhappy said:
The fact that MacPorts works on Tiger is freaking impressive. From what I can tell, their strategy for most ports on Tiger is to:
  1. Use Tiger's ancient GCC 4.0.1 to compile a partial copy of GCC 4.2.
  2. Use that partial copy of GCC 4.2 to compile a full copy of GCC 4.2.
  3. Use that full copy of GCC 4.2 to compile GCC 7.
  4. Use GCC 7 to compile whatever you're actually trying to install.
Incredible.
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Yes I've got GCC 7 build on my iMac G5, took 2 and 1/2 days, but it did it...
 
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Does Intel Tiger have a software-side memory limit?

In my VMWare Fusion (which, aside, is running Tiger beautifully--it feels 100% native), I can't seem to make the non-Server Tiger boot with more than 3 GB of memory. That's an exact limit—it works with 3072 mb, but won't boot with 3076 mb.

It could have something to do with VMWare. But, for some reason, the server version of Tiger has no trouble booting with 4 GB of memory.

Edit: And it's, uh, not as if there aren't any empty slots. (Or, well, "slots.")

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Amethyst1 said:
and I have also seen it on a friend's MP 1,1 with (iirc) 14 gigs.
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ok this is slightly cheating as it will only boot with 64GB of RAM in Safe mode, I think tigers actual limit is 32GB, at least on a MP1,1/2,1 EFI32 machine,

although still need to do more testing there, sometimes it would boot with all 64GB in normal mode and just ignore half the RAM and only see 32GB, but most of the times it would just hard reboot the Mac Pro the moment it Jumped to kernel from boot.efi

I dont have an MP3,1/Xserve2,1 to test it on an EFI64 machine sadly (but it may still be the same since the tiger kernel is still 32bit)

TL;DR no I dont think Tiger client has any sort of RAM limitation
 
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