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About four days ago, I unknowingly gave all five of my phones a drop test as all of them slid off the pillow and into the tile floor when I woke up. My arm was under the pillow and accidentally raised it before waking up from the sound. Only the LG took a damage but a very minor one on top that isn't noticeable unless I told you. Motorola and Nokia came away flawless. Literally zero scruffs like it never happened and I have an eye for the smallest details.

I remember asking my gf that morning imagine if that was an expensive Samsung Galaxy S7 edge? All glass. It probably would have been more damaged than any of them. So for aesthetics, I do like the S7 edge but it isn't practical enough for me from a durability standpoint. For me, durability is more important to me than aesthetics since I don't cover my phones with a case unless a holster one because I don't like carrying them in my pocket.

I wouldn't argue to anyone if they say it is a great phone though since Samsung got the other basics right. Fast charging, long battery life, nice camera, display, water-resistance, etc. Just not my cup of tea when it comes to design that gets smudged easily. Reason why I might go iPhone 6se instead. Kinda an ugly design I know but I want to avoid the all glass iPhone 7 series from 2017-2019. Practical design over a pretty glassy one.
 

Shanghaichica

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Samsung have been very good with the S7 & S7e to push out regular security updates.
It's still early days for me but I agree. When I got my phone on Tuesday it was on the June update. On Thursday the July update came through. I think that's pretty good going.
 
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mi7chy

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Are u running an iOS device with 2gb ram like iPad Air 2 of iPhone 6s or newer. I haven't any issues with reloading of web pages.

I've had issues with iOS devices up to 1GB DRAM which should be fine because I've got several 1GB Android devices like Moto G that renders perfectly with Chrome and can even run two mail clients, Gmail and Aqua Mail (for Yahoo accounts), perfectly.
 

Shanghaichica

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I've had issues with iOS devices up to 1GB DRAM which should be fine because I've got several 1GB Android devices like Moto G that renders perfectly with Chrome and can even run two mail clients, Gmail and Aqua Mail (for Yahoo accounts), perfectly.
Maybe newer devices like the Moto G are now capable of runing well on 1GB of ram but android devices with 1GB of ram in the past were laggy as hell.
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How you finding your edge compared to your iPhone?
It's a lot more compact. It's hard to believe that they have the same size screen. The screen is beautiful but it's what I've come to know and love from Samsung over the years.


Obviously I'm much more used to the iPhone as I haven't used a Samsung phone regularly since late 2014. However I'm liking what I see so far. It's very fast and has no lag whatso ever. At the moment I'm finding the edge screen useful but maybe over time it will become just like 3D Touch. But for now I like having my most used apps available to me anywhere. I've also got a panel set up for my podcasts and for YouTube. I really like the themes too it just adds another layer of easy customisation.

I think the look of the edge display alone is enough t justify the occasional false touches.

I'm actually really impressed with the battery life so far. Especially in standby. Again it's early days but it's been excellent. My 6S plus has been having Rubbish battery life since the last update so I can't really compare them at the moment.

Meh I might just keep the screen protector on. I paid £30 including the installation for it so it's going to have to stay on for a while. I'm getting used to it now. At the moment I'm just using a spigen crystal clear case and I might stay with it. Or I might pick up one of the LED cases but they don't seem to have one in pink gold though.
 
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The Game 161

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Maybe newer devices like the Moto G are now capable of runing well on 1GB of ram but android devices with 1GB of ram in the past were laggy as hell.
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It's a lot more compact. It's hard to believe that they have the same size screen. The screen is beautiful but it's what I've come to know and love from Samsung over the years.


Obviously I'm much more used to the iPhone as I haven't used a Samsung phone regularly since late 2014. However I'm liking what I see so far. It's very fast and has no lag whatso ever. At the moment I'm finding the edge screen useful but maybe over time it will become just like 3D Touch. But for now I like having my most used apps available to me anywhere. I've also got a panel set up for my podcasts and for YouTube. I really like the themes too it just adds another layer of easy customisation.

I think the look of the edge display alone is enough t justify the occasional false touches.

I'm actually really impressed with the battery life so far. Especially in standby. Again it's early days but it's been excellent. My 6S plus has been having Rubbish battery life since the last update so I can't really compare them at the moment.

Meh I might just keep the screen protector on. I paid £30 including the installation for it so it's going to have to stay on for a while. I'm getting used to it now. At the moment I'm just using a spigen crystal clear case and I might stay with it. Or I might pick up one of the LED cases but they don't seem to have one in pink gold though.
thats good that the battery life is good, you have screen display on? I find standby isn't that great for me.
 

mi7chy

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Maybe newer devices like the Moto G are now capable of runing well on 1GB of ram but android devices with 1GB of ram in the past were laggy as hell.

This is a 1st gen Moto G from 2013 so what specific device are you imaging? Moto G with 1GB is clearly a better and more stable experience than an iPhone 6 or iPad with 1GB.
 

Shanghaichica

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This is a 1st gen Moto G from 2013 so what specific device are you imaging? Moto G with 1GB is clearly a better and more stable experience than an iPhone 6 or iPad with 1GB.
My original Galaxy note. The first gen nexus 7, the Asus memo pad 7, the galaxy tab 2 10.1. All had 1GB of ram and all were horribly laggy.
 

mi7chy

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My original Galaxy note. The first gen nexus 7, the Asus memo pad 7, the galaxy tab 2 10.1. All had 1GB of ram and all were horribly laggy.

Do you understand the difference between instability vs lag? For example, a laggy browser is still usable vs an unstable browser that doesn't render properly or at all. Also, the original Galaxy Note was released in 2011 so the equivalent is the 2011 iPhone 4S which is not only laggy but also unstable and unusable for a lot of apps due to being DRAM starved. I know because I owned an iPhone 4S. As for the other devices, do you know the difference between different price class? Recent devices are more competitive but you can't always expect a $200 device to perform like a $600 device.
 
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johannnn

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Why go to the expensive Samsung when you could go for some of the competitors that have a better product? E.g. the fingerprint sensor on Huawei, Oppo etc is far better than the one on Samsung.
 
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msavic

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Why go to the expensive Samsung when you could go for some of the competitors that have a better product? E.g. the fingerprint sensor on Huawei, Oppo etc is far better than the one on Samsung.
The S7 Edge fingerprint sensor is more than fast enough and also highly accurate in my usage. The issue with those other manufacturers is that they simply can't match other aspects of hardware that Samsung utilizes. The screen, processor and camera are the first to come to mind. There is also the lack of support for those manufacturers both in 3rd party accessories and in warranty assistance as well.
 

mi7chy

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Why go to the expensive Samsung when you could go for some of the competitors that have a better product? E.g. the fingerprint sensor on Huawei, Oppo etc is far better than the one on Samsung.

Chinese devices still can't compete with Samsung on design, quality, features and future proofing. If you keep your devices long term it's actually less costly amortized over several years versus having to upgrade more often. For example, if I had stayed with iPhone after the 4S the 5, 5S and 6 would have already been long obsolete since they don't run iOS 9 well with only 1GB DRAM, won't get iOS 10 full features and, also, the 6 was a lemon with cheap lower grade aluminum to increase profit. Instead of the iPhone 5 I got the Galaxy Note II in 2012 with 2GB DRAM which is what the iPhone 6S just got but still has unique hardware features like pen and OS features that iPhone has yet to get. So, over four years...

Galaxy Note II cost ~$700 and still works great

iPhone 5 + 5S + 6 + 6S cost ~$2800 but still behind in hardware and OS features

Even if you substitute with a different Chinese device with lower cost and better specs the design and quality are still lacking.
 

ryanwarsaw

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In your opinion of course, you are stating it as it is a fact

I share his opinion. His experience is almost exactly the same as mine. However I am still using the Edge. The price of an iPhone where I am now is just too high to justify moving back for a few minor annoyances caused by Android. I also am loving the fact that I no longer feel like somebody is holding a gun to my head to get an iPhone these days. Any price increases Apple may make unless they release a device you would sell your children for would keep me away. The technology is getting mature enough there is really no need for prices similar to what early adopters would pay. It is 2016 stop trying to sell me a $1,500 VHS.
 
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akash.nu

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Chinese devices still can't compete with Samsung on design, quality, features and future proofing. If you keep your devices long term it's actually less costly amortized over several years versus having to upgrade more often. For example, if I had stayed with iPhone after the 4S the 5, 5S and 6 would have already been long obsolete since they don't run iOS 9 well with only 1GB DRAM, won't get iOS 10 full features and, also, the 6 was a lemon with cheap lower grade aluminum to increase profit. Instead of the iPhone 5 I got the Galaxy Note II in 2012 with 2GB DRAM which is what the iPhone 6S just got but still has unique hardware features like pen and OS features that iPhone has yet to get. So, over four years...

Galaxy Note II cost ~$700 and still works great

iPhone 5 + 5S + 6 + 6S cost ~$2800 but still behind in hardware and OS features

Even if you substitute with a different Chinese device with lower cost and better specs the design and quality are still lacking.
What's with the whole obsession over the amount of RAM in the devices?! It depends on how efficient the OS is in memory management. iPhones just don't need so much RAM because of better optimisation so it's not really comparable or "bad" as you portrait in your post.
 

C DM

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Do you understand the difference between instability vs lag? For example, a laggy browser is still usable vs an unstable browser that doesn't render properly or at all. Also, the original Galaxy Note was released in 2011 so the equivalent is the 2011 iPhone 4S which is not only laggy but also unstable and unusable for a lot of apps due to being DRAM starved. I know because I owned an iPhone 4S. As for the other devices, do you know the difference between different price class? Recent devices are more competitive but you can't always expect a $200 device to perform like a $600 device.
Interesting anecdotal and/or rhetorical experiences, but most people have had a perfectly stable and usable iPhone 4s (or 6).
 
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I7guy

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Chinese devices still can't compete with Samsung on design, quality, features and future proofing. If you keep your devices long term it's actually less costly amortized over several years versus having to upgrade more often. For example, if I had stayed with iPhone after the 4S the 5, 5S and 6 would have already been long obsolete since they don't run iOS 9 well with only 1GB DRAM, won't get iOS 10 full features and, also, the 6 was a lemon with cheap lower grade aluminum to increase profit. Instead of the iPhone 5 I got the Galaxy Note II in 2012 with 2GB DRAM which is what the iPhone 6S just got but still has unique hardware features like pen and OS features that iPhone has yet to get. So, over four years...

Galaxy Note II cost ~$700 and still works great

iPhone 5 + 5S + 6 + 6S cost ~$2800 but still behind in hardware and OS features

Even if you substitute with a different Chinese device with lower cost and better specs the design and quality are still lacking.
You can get 3 new huawei phones spanning 3 years each for the cost of one Samsung flagship. Some are perfectly fine with paying 60% less for 90% of the same features; as evidenced by the growth.
 
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John Mcgregor

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Chinese devices still can't compete with Samsung on design, quality, features and future proofing. If you keep your devices long term it's actually less costly amortized over several years versus having to upgrade more often. For example, if I had stayed with iPhone after the 4S the 5, 5S and 6 would have already been long obsolete since they don't run iOS 9 well with only 1GB DRAM, won't get iOS 10 full features and, also, the 6 was a lemon with cheap lower grade aluminum to increase profit. Instead of the iPhone 5 I got the Galaxy Note II in 2012 with 2GB DRAM which is what the iPhone 6S just got but still has unique hardware features like pen and OS features that iPhone has yet to get. So, over four years...

Galaxy Note II cost ~$700 and still works great

iPhone 5 + 5S + 6 + 6S cost ~$2800 but still behind in hardware and OS features

Even if you substitute with a different Chinese device with lower cost and better specs the design and quality are still lacking.

And when i thought a have read all the nonsense ...
 
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jamezr

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You can get 3 new huawei phones spanning 3 years each for the cost of one Samsung flagship. Some are perfectly fine with paying 60% less for 90% of the same features; as evidenced by the growth.
You have a point with some of what you are saying......
There are a lot of lower cost Android OEMs out there that make some pretty impressive phones. But I disagree with you on the features and percentages. Like say my OPO3 versus my Galaxy S7 edge.
The S7 edge has a better camera, display.....waterproofing....wireless charging and expandable storage and battery life.
Sometimes you get what you pay for......
 
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I7guy

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You have a point with some of what you are saying......
There are a lot of lower cost Android OEMs out there that make some pretty impressive phones. But I disagree with you on the features and percentages. Like say my OPO3 versus my Galaxy S7 edge.
The S7 edge has a better camera, display.....waterproofing....wireless charging and expandable storage and battery life.
Sometimes you get what you pay for......
Yes, I agree, you get what you pay for. However, someone like @Savor, I could see going for the less expensive phones, maybe that the phone doesn't have waterproofing, great camera, etc means little as far as his values go. Those features are the icing on the cake and you pay for them. I'm with you on this and you know what I like.

As far as the features and percentage, it's meaningless I agree, just used for illustration purposes. You get a non-flagship phone at a great discount with most of the features of a flagship.
 

jamezr

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Yes, I agree, you get what you pay for. However, someone like @Savor, I could see going for the less expensive phones, maybe that the phone doesn't have waterproofing, great camera, etc means little as far as his values go. Those features are the icing on the cake and you pay for them. I'm with you on this and you know what I like.

As far as the features and percentage, it's meaningless I agree, just used for illustration purposes. You get a non-flagship phone at a great discount with most of the features of a flagship.
Well.....I wouldn't say most of the features. Unless your requirements are that it turns on and you can make calls and send texts.
I think it is interesting to see the iphone SE with it's price point selling well for Apple. It doesn't have all the features of their flagship phones yet it does well. Considering sales of their flagship phones have declined a lot recently....maybe Apple will get into the sub flagship phone market a little more. Who knows.....
 

nrvna76

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I always consider switching to galaxy but never actually pull the trigger. I am getting tired of always having to increase my wife's and my iCloud storage. Being able to use SD cards would be amazing. I would miss iMessage immensely though.
 

mi7chy

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What's with the whole obsession over the amount of RAM in the devices?! It depends on how efficient the OS is in memory management. iPhones just don't need so much RAM because of better optimisation so it's not really comparable or "bad" as you portrait in your post.

Optimization in this case is a fallacy. iOS does less so it can get away with lower resources. It's a basic concept for anyone who has worked with Linux which has options for running different desktop environments with different resource requirements depending if you want more features (higher resource) or a basic experience (lower resource).

https://l3net.wordpress.com/2013/03/17/a-memory-comparison-of-light-linux-desktops/

Memory utilization by desktop environment
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Apple's approach has been offering a basic experience that's why iOS has lacked things others have taken for granted such as widgets, ability to place icons anywhere on the home screen, default apps, etc. but the benefit to Apple is it's more profitable since they can get away with minimal hardware specs. To be competitive Apple has borrowed some of competitors' features for iOS 10 so the resource requirement is creeping up with the next iPhone rumored to have 3GB. That means if you're on an iPhone with only 1GB iOS 10 will just be a number change since you won't get all the features, 2GB will probably be minimum requirement but runs best with 3GB or more. Knowing this any smart consumer will want more DRAM and not less. That's why there's a backlash with 2GB iPP 9.7 since Apple got greedy again after offering 4GB on the iPP 12.9.
 

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I always consider switching to galaxy but never actually pull the trigger. I am getting tired of always having to increase my wife's and my iCloud storage. Being able to use SD cards would be amazing. I would miss iMessage immensely though.
The nicest thing about having an S7 Edge with an SD card is being able to eject the card, eject the sim tray, add anything I want to the card by plugging the card into my Mac and then putting the card back into the phone with the sim card without ever having to turn the phone off.

On my Surface Pro 3, I just connect the phone to the computer with a cord and the card shows up along with the phone and I can directly drag and drop what I want without ever having to remove the SD card. They just show up in explorer.

You should try an S7/Edge and just see how you like it. It might be one of the best decisions ever.
 
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