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billy the fish

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I've got the S7 on order. Watching videos, I'm quite excited about it, but I'm not looking forward to spending the first couple of hours getting rid of all the crap "S" apps and turning off the endless different sounds.

The main reason I went away from Samsung is because I found I turned off all the extra features like how it kept the screen on when you were looking at it (never worked) and the 'bump-phones-to-transfer-files' that I'd never use.

Still, let's see how I feel when it arrives next week.
When you say hrs, in reality it's a 5 minute job at best.. no biggie really...
..and you left samsung before because there were features you didn't use that you turned off? Not quite sure that makes sense..?
 

Shanghaichica

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I've got the S7 on order. Watching videos, I'm quite excited about it, but I'm not looking forward to spending the first couple of hours getting rid of all the crap "S" apps and turning off the endless different sounds.

The main reason I went away from Samsung is because I found I turned off all the extra features like how it kept the screen on when you were looking at it (never worked) and the 'bump-phones-to-transfer-files' that I'd never use.

Still, let's see how I feel when it arrives next week.
Turning off features you don't want is not a big deal. You should expect to make some adjustments to get it set up just how you like it. I would never use a device exactly as it comes out of the box.
 

MRU

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^^

Yeah but the irony being is 99.99% of us will turn off Briefing ... Which leaves you wondering why it's there in the first place. This is an example of a Samsung addition that really is bloat. They should get rid and allow that tiny percentage of users who want it to download it from the App Store (or just flipboard seeing as Briefing is just a slow gimped version of flipboard anyway) ...
 

Shanghaichica

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^^

Yeah but the irony being is 99.99% of us will turn off Briefing ... Which leaves you wondering why it's there in the first place. This is an example of a Samsung addition that really is bloat. They should get rid and allow that tiny percentage of users who want it to download it from the App Store (or just flipboard seeing as Briefing is just a slow gimped version of flipboard anyway) ...
If it actually worked more people might use it but it's slow and doesn't refresh unless you force it. Samsung have a lot of good ideas but they often fall short in the implementation which is why a lot of people moan and call their devices gimmicky or bloated. There's no point in craming in 101 features if only 20 of them work properly. Samsung need to see things through instead of abandoning things for their 'next big thing'
 
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Savor

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There is no Android I want that is too big UNLESS they pack a 5000 mAh battery like the Asus Zenfone Max for about $180. I saw the Zenfone Max just yesterday which has a very modest Moto E 2nd gen specs but I loved the faux leather back. I saw the battery scores and it beat a local brand here that I wanted last year - Starmobile Up Max. The Up Max has DTV which I need. Zenfone Max got close to 20 hrs on a battery test. That's "5.5 but only a power saving 720p screen with the low consumption Snapdragon 410 and a more trusted brand than Starmobile.

I've always been a tablet / iPad sceptic. Then I tried the iPad 2 after 4-5 years later and its 6200+ mAh battery still holds up after half a decade. Say it loses 20-30% of its original charge after 18 months, it still would still double most current flagships packing only 3000-3500 mAh to push a QHD. Bare minimum for me is 5000 mAh. I came to realize SMARTPHONES ARE MORE DISPOSABLE THAN TABLETS. To keep your smartphone to last longer than the 2 yr cycles with these current smartphones is you need it to have a battery in tablet territory of 5000 mAh or above.
 

Channan

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The Nexus 6P, Moto X Style, Galaxy S7 (which, to be fair, doesn't really have the good Android experience I want) etc. are all just far too big.
I kept my iPhone 5s for the longest time because I didn't like all the big Android phones that kept coming out. I finally upgraded when the Moto X Style came out. It was surprisingly easy to adjust to. Obviously it felt huge when I first got it, at 5.7" compared to my iPhone's 4" display, but the shape of the phone made it easier to hold than other phones this size. I'm completely comfortable with it now, but even the Plus iPhones, which are only slightly taller and wider (but thinner), still feels too big to use. It's probably the rounded edges that just make it too slippery to hold and use one-handed.
 
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Mildredop

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I kept my iPhone 5s for the longest time because I didn't like all the big Android phones that kept coming out. I finally upgraded when the Moto X Style came out. It was surprisingly easy to adjust to. Obviously it felt huge when I first got it, at 5.7" compared to my iPhone's 4" display, but the shape of the phone made it easier to hold than other phones this size. I'm completely comfortable with it now, but even the Plus iPhones, which are only slightly taller and wider (but thinner), still feels too big to use. It's probably the rounded edges that just make it too slippery to hold and use one-handed.

I had a 6S (non plus) for a while, and nearly dropped it several times in the week I had it. I assumed it was a combination of the rounded edges, flat back and matte aluminium.

I've got the Moto X now and wanted to stay with them, but the X Style is just too big for me. It's less about holding it and more about pocketing it.

Also, as great as the Moto Display is, I miss a notification LED. If the phone is the other side of the room, it's almost impossible to notice the Active Display gently pulsing, whereas an LED flashing would be easily seen.
 

Channan

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I had a 6S (non plus) for a while, and nearly dropped it several times in the week I had it. I assumed it was a combination of the rounded edges, flat back and matte aluminium.

I've got the Moto X now and wanted to stay with them, but the X Style is just too big for me. It's less about holding it and more about pocketing it.

Also, as great as the Moto Display is, I miss a notification LED. If the phone is the other side of the room, it's almost impossible to notice the Active Display gently pulsing, whereas an LED flashing would be easily seen.
I can pocket my iPad mini. Barely, but I can do it. How tight are your pockets? :p
 

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I think seeing both the Huawei Ascend Mate2 and ASUS Zenfone Max that a minimum "5.5 displays should have 5000 mAh battery to get that rare minimum of two days heavy usage. Phones should start having 20+ screen on-time (SOT) as bare minimum. Not the standard 10+ hours doing light tasks which degrades to 5-6 SOT hrs after 1.5 yrs. Anything less than 5000 mAh is manufacturers jipping you. They give us fast charging which isn't exactly healthy on the longevity of the battery itself and a small sub-4000 mAh to power a FHD or QHD when 5000 mAh is maximizing up to 20+ hrs SOT going only 720p. OEM's should start packing twice at what they should or twice the density but don't because of short term profits, keeping them nonremovable, and making them thinner/lighter.

I saw a poll asking what is the most important feature on a smartphone. Processor / RAM was #1, OS was #2, and battery was #3. Personally for me, I'm already confident with the OS I prefer (Android) and I don't need a super fast processor / RAM for my basic usage. So the #3 is usually my #1 feature. Wait when you keep charging or hit the 18th month mark with your smartphone since any battery expires in both the many charges and starts degrading from its shelf life when you aren't. People complain at the LG G5's 2800 mAh. The S7 edge at 3600 mAh isn't that much better. Extra couple of hours? Any flagship with the fastest SoC and QHD is scamming consumers with substandard sized batteries and adds insult by keeping them unremovable. The last six months of your 2 hr contract will start feeling brutal once it degraded faster than you hoped.

For any BIG phones, it better have a BIG battery like the Mate2 ("6.1) and Zenfone Max ("5.5) achieved with 4000 and 5000 mAh, respectively.
 

nviz22

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If you want a smaller device, you'll be looking at less big names than the Galaxy S7/LG G5/HTC M10. The Z5 Compact is the best in my mind. You could look at ZTE, Huawei, etc. Android is about choices, but the general trend in big name choices involves going after 5" or bigger. The Xperia has some redesigned phones now, so look at those too.
 

ozaz

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Did you use the Phone Finder at gsmarena ?

Just tried this. Defining premium as minimum of 3 gb ram, 32 gb storage, FHD display, and with fingerprint sensor. Also released no earlier than 2015, and with height and width no more than 145 X 70 mm, this tool gives 5 phones: GS7, Xiaomi Mi 5, Xperia X, ZTE Axon mini, ZTE Blade S7.

Only the GS7 and the Mi 5 have flagship class processors. The Xperia X performance, also a flagship, was not in this list because its width is 70.4 mm.

http://www.gsmarena.com/results.php...DisplayResMin=2073600&chkFingerprint=selected

Reducing max height to 140 mm, which is really how I would define a small phone, leads to zero results.
 

apolloa

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Time, because it rules EVERYTHING!
Have to say I agree with this thread, we have no new Xperia Compact and the current one has issues. So their is no Compact Android flagship, looking at comparison reviews the S7 is noticibely just bigger then the 6S, which is not what I want. I've gone naked with my 6S now and the design is friggin sexy, I am going to keep it as I can just about handle it one handed and know I won't be able to with the S7 as easily.
I have been playing around with the 3D touch and it has some useful features, you just need to get into the habit of using it.
 

maxsix

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This is the same reason I don't like large phones. Handling them is fine. I just don't like carrying them around in my trouser pocket.

But I like the 6S handset size. For me, up to around 140 x 70 mm can provide a good blend of being comfortably pocketable, and a reasonable screen screen (5").
The 6S screen is 4.7" which is noticeably smaller than 5.0".

I've deliberately bought smartphones with each and every screen size from 3.5" up to 6.4". It's been fun Experiencing each of them. For my personal usage I find a 6.0" display just perfect. A very heavy smartphone user that spends more than an average amount of time on the web, viewing movies and training videos, the large spacious display is truly appreciated.
 

GigabitEthernet

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The S7 is a really interesting phone. It actually feels really small.

The problem with the iPhone is that it is unnecessarily big, whereas the S7 (pretty much) couldn't be much smaller because most of the front of the phone is screen.
 

Channan

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I think seeing both the Huawei Ascend Mate2 and ASUS Zenfone Max that a minimum "5.5 displays should have 5000 mAh battery to get that rare minimum of two days heavy usage. Phones should start having 20+ screen on-time (SOT) as bare minimum. Not the standard 10+ hours doing light tasks which degrades to 5-6 SOT hrs after 1.5 yrs. Anything less than 5000 mAh is manufacturers jipping you. They give us fast charging which isn't exactly healthy on the longevity of the battery itself and a small sub-4000 mAh to power a FHD or QHD when 5000 mAh is maximizing up to 20+ hrs SOT going only 720p. OEM's should start packing twice at what they should or twice the density but don't because of short term profits, keeping them nonremovable, and making them thinner/lighter.

I saw a poll asking what is the most important feature on a smartphone. Processor / RAM was #1, OS was #2, and battery was #3. Personally for me, I'm already confident with the OS I prefer (Android) and I don't need a super fast processor / RAM for my basic usage. So the #3 is usually my #1 feature. Wait when you keep charging or hit the 18th month mark with your smartphone since any battery expires in both the many charges and starts degrading from its shelf life when you aren't. People complain at the LG G5's 2800 mAh. The S7 edge at 3600 mAh isn't that much better. Extra couple of hours? Any flagship with the fastest SoC and QHD is scamming consumers with substandard sized batteries and adds insult by keeping them unremovable. The last six months of your 2 hr contract will start feeling brutal once it degraded faster than you hoped.

For any BIG phones, it better have a BIG battery like the Mate2 ("6.1) and Zenfone Max ("5.5) achieved with 4000 and 5000 mAh, respectively.
Oh my God, I WISH I could get 10 hours SOT that degrades to only 5-6 after a year and a half.
 

cube

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Just tried this. Defining premium as minimum of 3 gb ram, 32 gb storage, FHD display, and with fingerprint sensor. Also released no earlier than 2015, and with height and width no more than 145 X 70 mm, this tool gives 5 phones: GS7, Xiaomi Mi 5, Xperia X, ZTE Axon mini, ZTE Blade S7.

Only the GS7 and the Mi 5 have flagship class processors. The Xperia X performance, also a flagship, was not in this list because its width is 70.4 mm.

http://www.gsmarena.com/results.php...DisplayResMin=2073600&chkFingerprint=selected

Reducing max height to 140 mm, which is really how I would define a small phone, leads to zero results.

This happens to me too normally when I get very strict in my requirements combination.

Reduced to 140, and increased to 72:

http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_4s-7962.php
 
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Technarchy

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The two things that really stood out about the S7.

1: The screen is startling impressive. Brightness, colors, clarity. It's all amazing

2: Size. It's very close in size to the iPhone 6/6S to the extent that difference can be written off. Samsung engineering and design aced it here
 

Mildredop

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1: The screen is startling impressive. Brightness, colors, clarity. It's all amazing

2: Size. It's very close in size to the iPhone 6/6S to the extent that difference can be written off. Samsung engineering and design aced it here

Good to know about the screen. Where did you get to see one?
 
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