Things about the iPhone 5 you found unacceptable

[siiip5]

Remind me guys, what button do you push on your current phones to do things like getting back to your home screen or bringing up the multi-tasking window?

Capacitive back and menu buttons. Or you can use an app called Swipepad. Or you can add a custom ROM and create your own virtual buttons on screen. Or you can download a launcher that allows for long presses of the capacitive buttons.

The S3 does have a home button, but you don't have to use it, if you don't want to. It's called having a choice. A foreign concept for iFans.

 

[tbayrgs]

Capacitive back and menu buttons. Or you can use an app called Swipepad. Or you can add a custom ROM and create your own virtual buttons on screen. Or you can download a launcher that allows for long presses of the capacitive buttons.

The S3 does have a home button, but you don't have to use it, if you don't want to. It's called having a choice. A foreign concept for iFans.

Yup, so multiple presses of the capacitive buttons is more efficient than a single press of the home button...right. And so is unlocking, rooting and installing a custom ROM, just so you can avoid using a dedicated feature built into the phone.

Relax, if you read any of my posts you'd see I'm also not a fan of the physical home buttons (except for waking my device). I just find it amusing when someone goes out of their way to bash a physical feature that just happens to also be on the device they've chosen instead. And are the juvenile snide iFan/fanboy comment's really necessary?

 

[F123D]

And so is unlocking, rooting and installing a custom ROM, just so you can avoid using a dedicated feature built into the phone.

Actually, all I had to do was download an app (SwipePad) from Google play. Took 10 seconds. Done.

 

[siiip5]

Yup, so multiple presses of the capacitive buttons is more efficient than a single press of the home button...right. And so is unlocking, rooting and installing a custom ROM, just so you can avoid using a dedicated feature built into the phone.

Relax, if you read any of my posts you'd see I'm also not a fan of the physical home buttons (except for waking my device). I just find it amusing when someone goes out of their way to bash a physical feature that just happens to also be on the device they've chosen instead. And are the juvenile snide iFan/fanboy comment's really necessary?

Problem is, debating with someone like you about a product you know nothing about is pointless. I gave multiple options in my response and only one requires rooting and none require more than a single tap or swipe. But again, since you know nothing of which I am referring, what's the point of discussing it?

And the one thing I DO NOT like about my S3 is the physical home button, which is why I never use it. You simply don't have that option with an iphone. I had 2 iphones not only have the home button fail, but that POS mute button on the side on the 3 and 3gs fell off.

 

[hyteckit]

2. The persisting "home button." You would think Apple would want to be on the cutting edge here, with at least a capacitive button or gesture controls. Having an moving, mechanical button seems pretty outdated.

I love the "persisting home button". I can presss the physical home button and activate Siri without looking while driving my car. I find the capacity touch buttons a distraction while driving.

Those capacitive buttons on the Android devices is what made me to keep appreciating my iOS devices more.

I hate the capacitive buttons on the Android devices. No consistency at all. 3 buttons, 4 buttons. Home button on the left. home button on the right. Home button in the middle. Return button on the left, return button on the right. It's like having a left click on the mouse do one thing on one computer and something totally different on another computer.

I had my Acer iconia tablet connected to my 50" HDTV through HDMI. Those capitive buttons won't go away while playing video. No easy way to get rid of them. Know how big and distracting it is?

Also playing games with those persistent Android capacitive buttons and keep accidently touching them. Takes the fun out of the game. Very annoying and distracting.


Android capitive buttons is what I found unacceptable.

 

[F123D]

Also playing games with those persistent Android capacitive buttons and keep accidently touching them. Takes the fun out of the game. Very annoying and distracting.

I found playing games on a tiny 3.5" / 4" screen took the fun out of the game.

 

[hyteckit]

I found playing games on a tiny 3.5" / 4" screen took the fun out of the game.

That's why I play most them on my iPad.

Besides, many Android games don't run on my Android tablets even though it's a newer Android tablet running ICS and has a Tegra 2 chip.

 

[siiip5]

I love the "persisting home button". I can presss the physical home button and activate Siri without looking while driving my car. I find the capacity touch buttons a distraction while driving.

Those capacitive buttons on the Android devices is what made me to keep appreciating my iOS devices more.

I hate the capacitive buttons on the Android devices. No consistency at all. 3 buttons, 4 buttons. Home button on the left. home button on the right. Home button in the middle. Return button on the left, return button on the right. It's like having a left click on the mouse do one thing on one computer and something totally different on another computer.

I had my Acer iconia tablet connected to my 50" HDTV through HDMI. Those capitive buttons won't go away while playing video. No easy way to get rid of them. Know how big and distracting it is?/

Also playing games with those persistent Android capacitive buttons and keep accidently touching them. Takes the fun out of the game. Very annoying and distracting.


Android capitive buttons is what I found unacceptable.

I use a ps3 controller. Have no need to touch my tablet or phone while gaming.

 

[tensiondeadache]

You mean the lack of notifications and severe lack of functions, and 0 customizability in the Metro UI (Just swaths wasted space and square colors) is enough to make up for it?

Yeah...it is, when you factor in all the things I get with the Nokia/Microsoft combo. Nokia Drive, which lets me download maps and use my phone as a GPS without using data. I'll be using this in Mexico tomorrow....try that with an iPhone. I couldn't even use turn by turn with my iPhone in Los Angeles a few weeks ago because it dropped off of AT&T's LTE. The camera is better than the one at my office we use to take pictures of things for reports...it has a strap and a bag, if you get my drift. I also have a brilliant 4.5 inch screen, MS Office on the phone, a physical camera button, NFC, wireless charging, lenses-which are apps that integrate right into the stock camera app, Nokia Music, Nokia City Lens, a voice assistant that pre-dates siri and google now, customizable live lock screen, customizable live tiles, Nokia Maps baked in, Nokia Transit....all for $300 LESS than the iPhone 5. WP8 has notifications, just not a pull down notification center, clearly you know nothing about the platform.

 

[flight]

Perhaps a smartphone isn't for you. I doubt the vast majority of people would have that problem...

Touching the "MacBook" and "Dell" logos on my laptops didn't do jack, so I didn't think the logo on the device I was playing with would either. I'm not that stupid.

 

[Eddie Bombay]

Root your iPhone and install gestures and you'll never use that one button ever.

Only problem is iOS limitations and the price. Too many workarounds to do things android can do.

 

[TacticalDesire]

How damn soft and fragile the metal is. Pop cans are sturdier than the aluminum apple is using.

 

[siiip5]

Root your iPhone and install gestures and you'll never use that one button ever.

Only problem is iOS limitations and the price. Too many workarounds to do things android can do.

ONLY problem is, no one with an iPhone 5, or any iDevice running iOS6, can jailbreak their phone.

 

[onthecouchagain]

What will happen when iOS 7 is more or less the same as iOS 6, but with some aesthetic changes (no more of Forstall's skeuomorphism, for example), and some upgrades to Maps (this is a no brainer), SIRI, Passbook, etc.? But nothing new with all the things people are asking for. No toggles, no dynamic icons, no better keyboard, no improvements to notification center/banners, etc.? -- All this isn't an unlikely scenario.

Coupled that with the likely 5S version which would mean another year or so of the 4" screen (but probably an even better camera)...

What will those who are already teetering on the fence finally do? Genuinely curious how much dedicated iOS users who aren't (haven't been?) satisfied can tolerate...

 

[tbayrgs]

Problem is, debating with someone like you about a product you know nothing about is pointless. I gave multiple options in my response and only one requires rooting and none require more than a single tap or swipe. But again, since you know nothing of which I am referring, what's the point of discussing it?

Why is this discussion causing you to get your panties in such a twist? I wasn't even initially replying to one of your messages yet you're the only one arguing, and with such venom--relax. You mistakenly put me on the side of a debate advocating a physical hardware button--if you'd actually read my previous comments instead of having a knee jerk fandroid seizure because you mistakenly thought I was an 'iFan' attacking your beloved OS you'd have realized we're on the same side of this argument. Hell, the second half of my comment that caused you to blow your top is responding to another post by someone claiming the physical home button was required to perform essential functionality and why that wasn't the case.

But you're correct in that I don't have any expertise with a GS3 and the many of the workarounds available (though I did install Swipepad on my Nexus 7 to try to replicate some of the gesture functionality on an iPad and liked it quite a bit) to avoid using the home button as my device doesn't have a home button and has on screen buttons that work out of the box with no modifications needed.

You were also correct previously when you said it's about having choice--that's really the problem here, not actually the physical home button. Improve iOS or allow developer to have more access/freedom and there's no need to worry about whether or not it's a physical, capacitive, or on screen home button.

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Root your iPhone and install gestures and you'll never use that one button ever.

Only problem is iOS limitations and the price. Too many workarounds to do things android can do.

Exactly--improve iOS and the home button discussion is moot.

 

[zbarvian]

What will happen when iOS 7 is more or less the same as iOS 6, but with some aesthetic changes (no more of Forstall's skeuomorphism, for example), and some upgrades to Maps (this is a no brainer), SIRI, Passbook, etc.? But nothing new with all the things people are asking for. No toggles, no dynamic icons, no better keyboard, no improvements to notification center/banners, etc.? -- All this isn't an unlikely scenario.

Coupled that with the likely 5S version which would mean another year or so of the 4" screen (but probably an even better camera)...

What will those who are already teetering on the fence finally do? Genuinely curious how much dedicated iOS users who aren't (haven't been?) satisfied can tolerate...

Well it wouldn't be much of an iOS 7 update if they didn't improve on the sore points of the OS. If they really didn't do much besides change the visual design a bit and ameliorate Maps/Siri, then I would buy an Android in a heartbeat. If the 5S rumors are true and iOS 7 is as underwhelming as iOS 6 was, then I'm sure many long-time iOS fans would begin converting. I probably will anyways unless Apple gets their act together and takes their foot of the brake. Google is just doing so much more at a quicker rate.

 

[RedCroissant]

I can do all of these these functions on my Nexus 4 without the presence of a physical home button. So explain again why it has to be a physical button?

I think it has to be a physical button to provide feedback. True, a touchscreen doesn't require physical feedback, but the person is looking at the screen and receiving visual feedback to confirm their inputs are working.

The assistive technologies themselves rely on the home button to be pressed. A capacitive button, for someone with disabilities(IMO) would not be as useful. It's also a one-button solution to activating Siri and with iOS6, now you can open apps as well with it.

Now, there was another poster that posted images that showed Apple's interest in making the home button capacitive to a degree, but also working with technologies to give the user physical feedback. This would appease both sides of this issue and I would be fine with that.

 

[Zerilos]

Well it wouldn't be much of an iOS 7 update if they didn't improve on the sore points of the OS. If they really didn't do much besides change the visual design a bit and ameliorate Maps/Siri, then I would buy an Android in a heartbeat. If the 5S rumors are true and iOS 7 is as underwhelming as iOS 6 was, then I'm sure many long-time iOS fans would begin converting. I probably will anyways unless Apple gets their act together and takes their foot of the brake. Google is just doing so much more at a quicker rate.

I think what you fail to understand about your typical iOS user (myself included) is that most of us don't believe that iOS needs to be revolutionized and the people who do are already own an Android device. Most of us (iOS users) are happy with the simple, stable and secure experience iOS provides. I know many Android users (my wife and formerly myself included) and the Android features that most Phandroids rave about are niche options that nobody I know uses. For instance wife disables everything on her G3 just so she can go half the day on a single charge as do my co-workers. She doesn't even know what NFC is or care (obviously since she's disabled it on her phone).

For some people Android really is the better option, but those are the hardcore types that spend their day on forums complaining about how stupid iOS is. For everyone else the decision comes down to: price, availability, battery life and size. The ability to hand pick the location of your icons on the screen isn't even a consideration for the average user based on my personal observations.

 

[siiip5]

I think what you fail to understand about your typical iOS user (myself included) is that most of us don't believe that iOS needs to be revolutionized and the people who do are already own an Android device. Most of us (iOS users) are happy with the simple, stable and secure experience iOS provides. I know many Android users (my wife and formerly myself included) and the Android features that most Phandroids rave about are niche options that nobody I know uses. For instance wife disables everything on her G3 just so she can go half the day on a single charge as do my co-workers. She doesn't even know what NFC is or care (obviously since she's disabled it on her phone).

For some people Android really is the better option, but those are the hardcore types that spend their day on forums complaining about how stupid iOS is. For everyone else the decision comes down to: price, availability and battery life. The ability to hand pick the location your icons go isn't even a consideration for the average user based on my personal observations.

So why bother with a computer that allows you to customize the look and feel of the OS? Is your rationale that most people don't care if the buy a pc, but don't know how to use it? Why then would someone willfuly purchase an S3 or Note2? Battery life is better and price is the same as an iphone 5.
Just because you believe people don't care, doesn't make it so. But you are right that iOS is simple and designed for use by those not tech savy. Notice I did not say dumb o stupid. I have a doctor (phd type doctor) who is a tad older than me and he was asking my opinion about which smartphone he should buy (this will be his first and although he is a very smart person, he is not tech savy.) He liked my S3 a lot, but I steered him towards the iPhone 4S or 5. It was the right thing to do, even though I know he will be using a sub-par OS for those of us whom are more tech savy.

 

[zhenya]

But you are right that iOS is simple and designed for use by those not tech savy. Notice I did not say dumb o stupid. I have a doctor (phd type doctor) who is a tad older than me and he was asking my opinion about which smartphone he should buy (this will be his first and although he is a very smart person, he is not tech savy.) He liked my S3 a lot, but I steered him towards the iPhone 4S or 5. It was the right thing to do, even though I know he will be using a sub-par OS for those of us whom are more tech savy.

Don't make the novice mistake of confusing simple to operate with lack of power. One of the hardest things to do is to make a complex and powerful device simple to use. Most of the smartest engineers, scientists and computer programmers I know use iOS because it's the operating system that gets out of their way the most and lets them get important things done. As said above, few people care about niche features - they want phones that have great battery life, and basically let them forget about the operating system. Apple made huge inroads into this market while everyone else was fighting over features, and it's going to take a lot more than some gimmicks to get them back.

 

[ReanimationN]

- Headphone jack on the bottom, who does this benefit!? It's a silly move and one Apple did just tout a new feature.

This! I hate this. I generally use my phone in my left hand, despite being right handed, and I now have my headphone jack digging into my hand whenever I use my phone for music.

 

[Techno-Magic21]

My iPhone 5 lock button is broke already as is so many other peoples my iPhone 5 is bent and the speaker jack..... Is on the bottom. No that gets in the way when ur typing with two hands and ur listening to music. Also this ios 6 crap is laggy, and sometimes when your texting it will just reboot the iPhone and that is very very annoying So far iPhone 5 sucks.

 

[zbarvian]

Don't make the novice mistake of confusing simple to operate with lack of power. One of the hardest things to do is to make a complex and powerful device simple to use. Most of the smartest engineers, scientists and computer programmers I know use iOS because it's the operating system that gets out of their way the most and lets them get important things done. As said above, few people care about niche features - they want phones that have great battery life, and basically let them forget about the operating system. Apple made huge inroads into this market while everyone else was fighting over features, and it's going to take a lot more than some gimmicks to get them back.

Yeah, same here. My bro is a designer/programmer, and is the most tech savvy person I know. He uses iOS because all good designers primarily work on iOS. I don't think iOS is unattractive to tech savvy people, I think it's unattractive to nerds who want full control over their phone.

 

[SnowLeopard OSX]

The design. If you're going to increase the height of the phone, you may as well increase the width by a little bit, too (not the depth, though). I personally would have been content with a phone the size of the iPhone 4/4S, but with a larger screen -- both of the iPhone 5's predecessors had enough space to stretch out the screen.

 

[tensiondeadache]

The design. If you're going to increase the height of the phone, you may as well increase the width by a little bit, too (not the depth, though). I personally would have been content with a phone the size of the iPhone 4/4S, but with a larger screen -- both of the iPhone 5's predecessors had enough space to stretch out the screen.

Exactly. The awkward dimensions serve only to increase its feeling of cheapness and fragility. Had they kept the 3.5 inch/glass build and added the LTE radio, RAM, and A6 chip I'd probably be a happy iPhone user still.