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The Game 161

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Or just use it and enjoy. It is a great device.

If you choose to pick it apart, enjoy! Nothing in life is perfect. Good luck finding that perfect mate! Beware as she/he might be taking a close look at YOU, too.

Are you perfect?
Agreed

Enjoy what you have bought don't try looking for negatives otherwise you will find them.
 

Kiimora

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Hilarious guys :D!!!, I will not scrutinise for any imperfections when it arrives , if it does'nt switch on ,has a cracked screen, or a mass of blemish on the rear, now those are real defects
 
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maflynn

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I will not scrutinise for any imperfections when it arrives
Agreed the temptation to obsess over the details is there, but I found that as long as it works as expected then I'll be happy. The only thing that I'll not like is if the display is yellow. I'm not sure if that's an issue with the current iPads, but it was for some of the older iPhones.
 
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Whoakapi

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Aside from dead pixels and backlight bleed you can also inspect the display for:

- Particles under the screen
- Bookspine effect at edges
- Image retention
- Yellowing (cool vs. warm unevenness)
- Bad assembly of screen (i.e. the screen clicks when you press at certain areas)

As for the body you might want to check

- Dents and scratches
- Curved aluminum frame
- Buttons that are loose or mushy
- Defective Lightning and jack connectors

And then there's the battery that might be a lemon.

There are plenty of obstacles to the perfect iDevice :D
 

Bonzo87

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I bought a new iPad Pro 10.5 on Wednesday and had 2 dead pixels. Today, I went to the Apps Store (due to Holliday in Germany) and got a new iPad with a dead pixel which was visible even when the screen was turned off! The sales guy told me that I should better wait for a new product batch.
This is exactly what I am going to do. I'll wait for 2-3 weeks.
 

Newtons Apple

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I bought a new iPad Pro 10.5 on Wednesday and had 2 dead pixels. Today, I went to the Apps Store (due to Holliday in Germany) and got a new iPad with a dead pixel which was visible even when the screen was turned off! The sales guy told me that I should better wait for a new product batch.
This is exactly what I am going to do. I'll wait for 2-3 weeks.

How can a dead pixel show with the screen turned off?
 

Dulcimer

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I bought a new iPad Pro 10.5 on Wednesday and had 2 dead pixels. Today, I went to the Apps Store (due to Holliday in Germany) and got a new iPad with a dead pixel which was visible even when the screen was turned off! The sales guy told me that I should better wait for a new product batch.
This is exactly what I am going to do. I'll wait for 2-3 weeks.

You wouldn't happen to know what the first two digits of your serial number was, would you?

Another thread showed that DL serial numbers had better screens compared to DM ones (no strong evidence though).
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Aside from dead pixels and backlight bleed you can also inspect the display for:

- Particles under the screen
- Bookspine effect at edges
- Image retention
- Yellowing (cool vs. warm unevenness)
- Bad assembly of screen (i.e. the screen clicks when you press at certain areas)

As for the body you might want to check

- Dents and scratches
- Curved aluminum frame
- Buttons that are loose or mushy
- Defective Lightning and jack connectors

And then there's the battery that might be a lemon.

There are plenty of obstacles to the perfect iDevice :D

That's an exhaustive list. Thanks!
 

HiItsMe

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You wouldn't happen to know what the first two digits of your serial number was, would you?

Another thread showed that DL serial numbers had better screens compared to DM ones (no strong evidence though).
!

Which thread was this? The only place that I've seen it mentioned had five people (myself included) say their DM ones were perfect and only one person with DL weighing in at all. Fake news everywhere!
 

Bonzo87

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Jun 16, 2017
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You wouldn't happen to know what the first two digits of your serial number was, would you?

Another thread showed that DL serial numbers had better screens compared to DM ones (no strong evidence though).
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That's an exhaustive list. Thanks!

Since I just connected the first iPad with my iCloud account, I only know the serial number of this one. In fact, it is a SN starting with DM. I left the second iPad at the store since it had a dead pixel which was visible even when the screen was turned off.
 

jsmitty

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Which thread was this? The only place that I've seen it mentioned had five people (myself included) say their DM ones were perfect and only one person with DL weighing in at all. Fake news everywhere!
Good to hear. OP had me flipping my iPad over to look at my DM serial.
 
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How can a dead pixel show with the screen turned off?

Dead pixels can be easily observed if a display is turned off. 4K TV's, LED/LCD, OLED displays will indicate a grayish looking dot On the display. It almost resembles a dried water spot. On an all black display, they stand out. I have had iPod Touches and high end 4K TV's that I found dead pixels on with the display not activated, all covered under warranty.
 

texasstar1981

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i typically just check for dead pixels (...a $800+ iPad should have ZERO dead pixels) , fit and finish (display properly seated? dust under display?) and if colors are even / little to no noticeable backlight bleeding... that's about it

the dead pixel inspection could already be done in the panel factory if Apple would specify in the supplier contract that 0 dead pixels per panel are acceptable... scan finished panels by robot before shipping them to Apple. oh well... would cut into profit margin i guess....
 

Newtons Apple

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DLXs have amazing screens. Doesnt mean that DMs dont though. But Id try to aim for DLX for peace of mind.

Yep, very happy with my DLX screen. Even illumination and not to cool or warm. No pixels are misbehaved. I think this is getting blown out of proportion which is normal here.

This thread will cause "some" to go crazy!:p:p:p
 
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Kal-037

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You know each and every one of our definition of "perfect" is different and subjective... to me a slightly warm display is fine, or a slightly cooler display, while others find it repulsive. A little backlight showing up on black screen is absolutely acceptable to me as that's how LCD screens work (Apple's are actually some of the best in the business but still have issues as that's what the technology is.) But again someone may completely disagree and believe no backlight bleed should ever happen. So again what's perfect to me is not exactly perfect to you, so us describing the perfect iPad to each other is probably not going to help but here is a list of true issues to watch out for, that many here already listed but I'll just add my own to the list...

1.) Does it have dead or stuck pixels?
2.) Does the display turn on?
3.) Are the home, lock, or volume buttons not functioning?
4.) Are there any scratches or dents on Glass or Aluminum body?
5.) Is iPad overall shape and alignment correct, (no true bends and warping on Glass or Aluminum?)
6.) Does iPad stay together; does Glass come loose from Aluminum?)
7.) Did iPad come with shattered screen, dead pixels, and scratched Aluminum back?

**If none of these are a seen or a noticeable problem... congratulations you have a stellar piece of hardware in your hands, something that truly is a fantastic device. It's pretty much the greatest tablet available.

**If you see any of these issues my apologies that happened... take it to Apple and get a replacement.

I do this kind of check on most electronics as they are real issues that can be avoided, while many cannot as that's just how things will work out or how certain technology works. (This is coming from over 13 years experience) taking computers, phones, and every electronic device apart and back together along with studying and learning on how technologies are made and used. Then training for the past several years on how certain TVs, Computers, Phones, and Tablets work so I could work at my job as a sales specialist that can accurately answer questions, troubleshoot, fix, and even prevent future issues by informing and teaching employees and guests on how things work, so that proper care and knowledge is given, also making it so unnecessary returns or stress is avoided.
No I don't have a Masters or PHD in computer science or engineering, (working on my Bachelors,) but almost as important, I have almost a decade and a half of experience dealing with computers and technology.

I'm at this point rattling on and most will ignore this post, so I'll just be quiet now but add...
Nothing is a perfect 11 on the scale of 10... nothing is even a 10, you may get lucky and receive a 9, but it won't stay a nine forever, or maybe even for more than a few months. Accept that nothing will be perfect but instead it can be excellent or incredible, this will save you time, anxiety, anger, frustration, and other people's time by understanding and knowing this.
Cheers, (hope everyone finds the device they want.) :)


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44267547

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Agreed the temptation to obsess over the details is there, but I found that as long as it works as expected then I'll be happy. The only thing that I'll not like is if the display is yellow. I'm not sure if that's an issue with the current iPads, but it was for some of the older iPhones.

Obviously this is a tech forum others will report their issues or findings with the new product. That said, it's not unheard of with new iPads and iPhones that have yellow displays (Possible adhesive issue) can be somewhat of a concern when they are first manufactured. I know the iPhone 7 was Heavily discussed with yellowish tint, some new iPad Pro owners are reporting similar results with yellow displays.

I still have full intentions to purchase both of these new iPads, but I usually wait at least two months to allow manufacturing to slow down before I purchase. And then then there are the millions of people who don't report to tech forums and have no issues with their iPads. Sometimes it just seems like it's a bigger issue than it really is, because of a community of people congregating about a concern.
 

throAU

macrumors G3
Feb 13, 2012
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Hmm, DLX serial here. Yes, the screen is amazing, but had no idea there's 2 specs.

I have to say, I've never had any sort of manufacturing or other defect (well other than GPU failure in my 2011 MacBook Pro) with any of the apple gear I've purchased.
 

Alexrat1996

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Mar 29, 2015
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Lehigh valley PA
Under my warranty period when I got I had issue with flicking screen on camera app and dust in lens.

Second replacement I had it March 2018 till October 2018 white stain on screen ,loose charging port and one speck of dust in lens.
 
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