This is what I love about Android...customizability! GS4 running iOS 7

[QuarterSwede]

I don't see any files attached there

What happens when you click attach file? does it let you browse your phone to find a file?

Tap Choose File and you get these choices. Tap Choose Existing and you have access to the entire picture picker. That's as much as I'll show as I've got A LOT of personal family pictures. Rest assured I'm using iOS in bed to post this.

 

[skratch77]

Tap Choose File and you get these choices. Tap Choose Existing and you have access to the entire picture picker. That's as much as I'll show as I've got A LOT of personal family pictures. Rest assured I'm using iOS in bed to post this.

take a screen shot of this post and have the file showing where it says attached files.

you don't have to post a picture I just want to see the file name and type shown in there.

 

[QuarterSwede]

take a screen shot of this post and have the file showing where it says attached files.

you don't have to post a picture I just want to see the file name and type shown in there.

Satisfied yet?

 

[skratch77]

Like this

 

[QuarterSwede]

Like this

Okay?

 

[skratch77]

Satisfied yet?

No I don't see a file there for all I know you are taking snap shots and uploading them on a laptop after getting them off your phone

 

[QuarterSwede]

No I don't see a file there for all I know you are taking snap shots and uploading them on a laptop after getting them off your phone

Hahaha. Get off it already. This is a well known feature of iOS. Good grief, even iOS 6 has been able to do this.

Heck, here is Arn's first post trying it last year.

By the way, the file is called image.jpg. That's how iOS saves all screenshots.

 

[onthecouchagain]

When considering what desktop operating systems can do, OS X could be considered pretty limited compared to Windows (depending on how and what you use your OS for). Even running programs from the early-mid 2000s is an issue on OS X. I'd say that's a fair limitation considering the amount of software that has been produced over the years that have subsequently been rendered useless by Apple's new operating systems.

Windows also offers you more options for tinkering with how your computer performs, how much power it draws etc etc.

Apple makes those decisions for you, shock horror, like it does with iOS.

Yeah, Apple offers you the bare minimum- compared to the amount of choices in the PC world (and the ability to make your own PC), Apple offers you next to nothing. Apple offering you a few choices of screen sizes, RAM upgrades etc. is like Apple offering you the 4S and 5 (i.e. 2 screen sizes and a variety of storage and colour combinations) when compared to the wide variety of Android phones out there. The variety doesn't compare.

You talk about Android FUD, then go on to talk about Windows viruses? When was the last actual widespread Windows virus (not malware)? Windows 7 & 8 are incredibly secure these days. As long as you aren't an idiot and download everything and anything that's presented to you, it's going to be pretty hard to get malware on your PC. Android has had some pretty serious security breaches- just ask Sky UK users, not even sticking to the Play store could prevent that.

Depends on what you value! Your point on how they're different platforms etc. is also a good argument for Apple tightly controlling the experience on iOS (e.g. not placing the UI as the highest priority in the OS leads to an experience which can feel unresponsive and laggy compared to an OS which interrupts other processes to prioritise user input, something which may not make sense on a desktop OS, but makes sense on a mobile device which has limited processing power and uses touch as its input). You may not like what they've produced, or agree with some of their decisions, but a lot of people do.

I'm not, not in any way. I'm pointing out how OS X could be viewed as being inferior, depending on what you value. I like both and value them for what they are.

Okay, cool.

Anyway, I don't see how anyone can say Apple offers relatively the same thing with their iPhone compared to what they offer relatively with their Macs. I mean, have you visited the Mac portion of Apple's website? Do you see what populates?

Do these pictures below really equate to the iPhone page?

Versus:

Anyway, I'm not here to argue that OSX is superior to Windows. Never made that argument -- this is a straw man that you tried to corner me into by trying to make me say "I prefer OSX" and therefore I shouldn't be able to speak objectively about other operating systems. You're just wrong. I have no problem admitting Windows is objectively superior if that's what you're telling me. But at the same time, I also don't think it's an apt comparison (never did) hardware nor software-wise. Again, yes, OSX and Apple's Mac offerings are limited compared to Windows, but its limitations are far easier to swallow than the limitations they set on iOS and iPhone hardware. Same with their software. You just don't get the level of limitations with OSX as you do with iOS. You already pointed out a couple of examples yourself (default apps, being one of them).

This is without even mentioning the fact that they are for different markets and for different uses. This is without even mentioning the plethora of peripherals that Apple creates for Macs that allow users to still use older things (SuperDrive, for example), or creating and allowing use of external hard drives (expandable storage possible on the iPhone at all?). You just don't get this sort of flexibility with iPhones.

Also, you keep mentioning how PCs are more customizable because you can put together the hardware yourself (which is true) yet fail to mention that it requires some computing knowledge to do that. You don't just throw parts together. You have to then install the software you want, etc.

Yes, this is great freedom.

But no, this is not comparable to Android. When was the last time an Android OEM sold parts for you to put together, then made you install the software?

You keep trying to draw these relative comparisons between iOS vs Android and Windows vs OSX, but it just isn't quite hitting it, is it? As I said before, just not quite apt.

So, you done? If not, you can carry on yourself.

 

[ReanimationN]

Okay, cool.

Anyway, I don't see how anyone can say Apple offers relatively the same thing with their iPhone compared to what they offer relatively with their Macs. I mean, have you visited the Mac portion of Apple's website? Do you see what populates?

Do these pictures below really equate to the iPhone page?

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Versus:


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I said relative to what's available. Apple offers next-to-no choice in their Mac lines when compared to the PC market (which offers far more choice than the Android market). Yes, they offer a lot more choice in their Mac lines than their iPhone lines, but relative to the competition in each market, they offer next-to-no choice.

Anyway, I'm not here to argue that OSX is superior to Windows. Never made that argument -- this is a straw man that you tried to corner me into by trying to make me say "I prefer OSX" and therefore I shouldn't be able to speak objectively about other operating systems. You're just wrong. I have no problem admitting Windows is objectively superior if that's what you're telling me.

I'm not telling you that, I don't think that way either. Windows isn't 'objectively superior', which OS is superior for each person will depend on a case-by-case basis. I was simply curious as to why you like OS X when you consider the ability to customise an OS so important. As it turns out, you're happy to throw your preferred desktop OS under the bus to attempt to make a point about iOS and iOS users. I highly doubt you actually believe you're using an inferior OS, you'll probably say that you're happy to admit that it's inferior, but I highly doubt you believe that for even a second. It's ok to like OS X better than Windows, they both offer different advantages (as you began to allude to with the security example).

But at the same time, I also don't think it's an apt comparison (never did) hardware nor software-wise. Again, yes, OSX and Apple's Mac offerings are limited compared to Windows, but its limitations are far easier to swallow than the limitations they set on iOS and iPhone hardware. Same with their software. You just don't get the level of limitations with OSX as you do with iOS. You already pointed out a couple of examples yourself (default apps, being one of them).

How easy its limitations are to swallow depends on what you use an OS for and what you value, as I've said before. Plenty of people are happy with the limitations of OS X relative to what Windows can do, thanks to OS X's unique qualities and advantages. Same goes for iOS, even though it has more limitations than OS X.

E.g. you may be a desktop power user who demands the latest and greatest hardware, the ability to run both modern software as well as niche software from years back for your job, the ability to tweak your PC's performance relative to what work you're doing etc, but on the mobile side, you may just want something simple and easy to use that you don't have to think about, play around with and that's reliable and performs well. Or you may want the opposite, in which case OS X and Android would serve you well.

This is without even mentioning the fact that they are for different markets and for different uses.

Exactly.

Also, you keep mentioning how PCs are more customizable because you can put together the hardware yourself (which is true) yet fail to mention that it requires some computing knowledge to do that. You don't just throw parts together. You have to then install the software you want, etc.

Yes, this is great freedom.

Even if you ignored the ability to do this, there's still a far greater variety of choices available in the PC world than there is in the mobile world.

But on that topic, it's hardly easy to do things like root phones, flash ROMs, unlock bootloaders etc.- that also requires some competency with technology.

 

[onthecouchagain]

I said relative to what's available. Apple offers next-to-no choice in their Mac lines when compared to the PC market (which offers far more choice than the Android market). Yes, they offer a lot more choice in their Mac lines than their iPhone lines, but relative to the competition in each market, they offer next-to-no choice.

I'm not telling you that, I don't think that way either. Windows isn't 'objectively superior', which OS is superior for each person will depend on a case-by-case basis. I was simply curious as to why you like OS X when you consider the ability to customise an OS so important. As it turns out, you're happy to throw your preferred desktop OS under the bus to attempt to make a point about iOS and iOS users. I highly doubt you actually believe you're using an inferior OS, you'll probably say that you're happy to admit that it's inferior, but I highly doubt you believe that for even a second. It's ok to like OS X better than Windows, they both offer different advantages (as you began to allude to with the security example).

How easy its limitations are to swallow depends on what you use an OS for and what you value, as I've said before. Plenty of people are happy with the limitations of OS X relative to what Windows can do, thanks to OS X's unique qualities and advantages. Same goes for iOS, even though it has more limitations than OS X.

E.g. you may be a desktop power user who demands the latest and greatest hardware, the ability to run both modern software as well as niche software from years back for your job, the ability to tweak your PC's performance relative to what work you're doing etc, but on the mobile side, you may just want something simple and easy to use that you don't have to think about, play around with and that's reliable and performs well. Or you may want the opposite, in which case OS X and Android would serve you well.

Exactly.

I added more to my post. Check it out. Good luck. All I'll say is thankfully osx and the Mac experience is nothing like iOS and the iPhone experience, relative to windows or not. Not even close.

 

[walie]

Something tells me the OP would buy a body kit to make his Honda Civic look like a Lambo and then go around telling everyone how a Lambo drives...


a crude analogy i admit, but it works here

 

[MonkeySee....]

This thread isn't doing Android any favours. Lol

 

[Essenar]

I just hate that when you say you need a bigger screen, everyone is so quick to insult you and marginalize your tastes like you're some buffoon or McDonald's eating slob or something.

"Oh you want a big screen? Well you don't need all that big screen space you big dummy! How dumb are you? You can't even use a 4" screen? It's PERFECT for ONE handed typing with ONE thumb! It's PERFECT, everything about it is PERFECT and you're so DUMB for wanting a bigger screen! Why don't you just carry around your 27" iMac then you big screen dummy!"

No matter what Apple does, it's perfect. No Apple fan dares to challenge their ideologies and force them to adapt. This is why Android has catapulted past iOS. Because Android fans ALWAYS challenge the limitations. Good enough is never good enough. They always want better and improved. The developer's community is constantly adding tweaks and improvements to an otherwise elegant operating system to drive Google's developers into finding more stabilized alternatives to those changes.

Can you imagine how boring iOS 7 would be without the OBVIOUS influence of the jailbreak community? Things like swiping between applications and a swipe down control center, you don't think those things are coincidentally a little too similar to jailbreak tweaks?

Some people need and would have a good use for a screen larger than 4" on an iPhone. Simply calling those people dumb or excessive or compensating is a very effective way to help Apple remain LESS competitive.

In fact, I'll go ahead and say it: The iPhone is the most disappointing product from Apple. It's improving at a snail's pace and Apple fanboys are part of the culprit by playing 'abused girlfriend' and making excuses for them and dismissing them from the responsibility of adapting.

 

[AppleRobert]

Here is the one I got.this is also a perfect example of how easy and open android is to post things like a simple screen shot of the icons I used.

All I did was save screen shot and the clicked upload attachment in the forum page threw the web browser and clicked select image on my cell then went to screenshot in the galleries and clicked upload.

Try doing that on iso lol

Ok, I tried that icon pack but when I click on some I get an ad and the app does not open.

As far as the prior post before this above, I never considered an iPhone because of the 4" screen size.

 

[onthecouchagain]

In fact, I'll go ahead and say it: The iPhone is the most disappointing product from Apple. It's improving at a snail's pace and Apple fanboys are part of the culprit by playing 'abused girlfriend' and making excuses for them and dismissing them from the responsibility of adapting.

I have to agree with this part. The iPhone is the most overrated piece of technology I've ever used. The "world's most advanced operating system" is frightfully far from advance. Most of the iPhone's specs, if they were from any other manufacturer, would be considered a mid-range device.

 

[TacticalDesire]

I just hate that when you say you need a bigger screen, everyone is so quick to insult you and marginalize your tastes like you're some buffoon or McDonald's eating slob or something.

"Oh you want a big screen? Well you don't need all that big screen space you big dummy! How dumb are you? You can't even use a 4" screen? It's PERFECT for ONE handed typing with ONE thumb! It's PERFECT, everything about it is PERFECT and you're so DUMB for wanting a bigger screen! Why don't you just carry around your 27" iMac then you big screen dummy!"

No matter what Apple does, it's perfect. No Apple fan dares to challenge their ideologies and force them to adapt. This is why Android has catapulted past iOS. Because Android fans ALWAYS challenge the limitations. Good enough is never good enough. They always want better and improved. The developer's community is constantly adding tweaks and improvements to an otherwise elegant operating system to drive Google's developers into finding more stabilized alternatives to those changes.

Can you imagine how boring iOS 7 would be without the OBVIOUS influence of the jailbreak community? Things like swiping between applications and a swipe down control center, you don't think those things are coincidentally a little too similar to jailbreak tweaks?

Some people need and would have a good use for a screen larger than 4" on an iPhone. Simply calling those people dumb or excessive or compensating is a very effective way to help Apple remain LESS competitive.

In fact, I'll go ahead and say it: The iPhone is the most disappointing product from Apple. It's improving at a snail's pace and Apple fanboys are part of the culprit by playing 'abused girlfriend' and making excuses for them and dismissing them from the responsibility of adapting.

This is probably one of the best posts I've read on this site.

 

[MeatRocket]

This is probably one of the best posts I've read on this site.

I have to agree, especially this gem:
"Apple fanboys are part of the culprit by playing 'abused girlfriend'"

 

[sentinelsx]

I don't get why anyone would use the ios 7 theme on their android phones. It doesn't look anything amazing to me, I would rather take the current ios "theme" over that rainbow anyway.

And for the record, this is what I rock on my iPhone

 

[Southernboyj]

Took me 5 seconds to make my gs4 look like a complete new phone.every few weeks I change it up to make the cell look fresh.

I like the wallpaper, not so much the icon pack. Have a link to the wallpaper in 1080x1920?

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I don't get why anyone would use the ios 7 theme on their android phones. It doesn't look anything amazing to me, I would rather take the current ios "theme" over that rainbow anyway.

And for the record, this is what I rock on my iPhone

Dat Sense 5 widget.

 

[Fireblade]

I don't get why anyone would use the ios 7 theme on their android phones. It doesn't look anything amazing to me, I would rather take the current ios "theme" over that rainbow anyway.

And for the record, this is what I rock on my iPhone

Absolutely right!

Uhm, you are using a widget on your iPhone, I would delete this screenshot, otherwise the "widgets are soooo useless" diehards will insult you.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Hahaha. Get off it already. This is a well known feature of iOS. Good grief, even iOS 6 has been able to do this.

Heck, here is Arn's first post trying it last year.

By the way, the file is called image.jpg. That's how iOS saves all screenshots.

For me it's still too limited. It only allows uploading photos from Camera Roll Albums and Photo Stream. Can't add any attachment that's not a photo, like a PDF or even a sound file. Also doesn't have option to select from Dropbox or any other storage app.