Same here. I had 2018 12.9 and now have the Air 4, and don't miss ProMotion.
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All iPads Those of you who have had an iPad with a ProMotion display (Pro models 2017 and later), would you buy an iPad without it?
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Well....something is happening. I've got the 2021 12.9 pro comparing it to my 2017 MacBook pro (60 Hz machine) with scrolling the same web pages. The MacBook looks choppy while the iPad is smooth. Easier on the eyes. I wonder if the testufo.com and displayhz.com sites key in on the hz it sees initially and not the up to 120 hz the display may be capable of?
The reason why it doesn’t show above 60hz is the site doesn’t fully support Safari. It’s stated clearly under “supported browsers”.
The display is definitely 120hz and is clearly visibly smoother than 60hz.
I saw that myself so I tried Chrome which is supposed to be fully supported. Same thing it did with Safari. I'm not sure they have kept up with that anyway. When using Safari, clicking on the supported browsers link, the "result" is the Safari I'm using is fully supported but the table below says it isn't. I wonder how old that site is.
ProMotion has been a gimmick since 2017. Other browsers support >60Hz except when used with ProMotion.
https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=173434
Works fine on my non-ProMotion phone, tablet, laptop, desktop, etc. except for iPad Pro.
All that link seems to show is Apple isn't supporting one VSYNC method "requestAnimationFrame". Still not buying your argument it's a "gimmick" as I can see a difference between a 60 hz display and my iPad pro when scrolling around a web page or moving images around.
All iPad browsers are basically just skins of Safari. Chrome on iPad just basically syncs your Chrome stuff but still renders exactly the same way Safari does and pages even still detect Safari. It’s only supported up to 60hz that’s why it’s not showing anything over. I’m pretty sure you’d get the same result if you had a Mac hooked up to a 120hz display in Safari but if you opened Chrome on the Mac you’d probably get 120hz.
Not sure why you'd think it was a gimmick simply because of browser benchmarks. Rush Rally Origins (beta) runs at 120fps.
I can’t live without ProMotion. In fact, it’s ruined my appreciation of the iPhone. Scrolling on my 11 Pro Max looks so janky by comparison.
Where I REALLY appreciate ProMotion is when I’m reading a lot of text and scrolling while I read. It’s especially helpful with tiny text. If you blow your text up to gigantic fonts, you may not notice as much.
Where I REALLY appreciate ProMotion is when I’m reading a lot of text and scrolling while I read. It’s especially helpful with tiny text. If you blow your text up to gigantic fonts, you may not notice as much.
I wouldn’t buy a full sized iPad without it. Having said that I really don’t notice the difference between my iPad Pro and iPad mini 5th gen.
Yes. And do. I currently own 4 iPads, two pro-motion (2020 iPad Pro 11, 2021 iPad Pro 12.9 with mini-led's), two not (iPad mini 5 and iPad Air 4th get). And will likely be upgrading my mini to the new one when it comes out.
Sure I like iPads. I use them in different places (work, home, cabin) for games, email, web browsing and videos and I tend to reach for the one that is closest. I do not think, wait, where is my pro-motion, this air just won't do!! But I have the ability to take in the bigger picture, not micro focus on how smooth the scrolling is or whatever. I just dont notice it because I am noticing the content. And that includes the fancy 2021 12.9 promotion mini led display. Sure, sometimes I admire it, but never seek it out, UNLESS, I am importing 61 MP raw images from my Sony camera for review. Then I bow down to the latest greatest tech.
Sure I like iPads. I use them in different places (work, home, cabin) for games, email, web browsing and videos and I tend to reach for the one that is closest. I do not think, wait, where is my pro-motion, this air just won't do!! But I have the ability to take in the bigger picture, not micro focus on how smooth the scrolling is or whatever. I just dont notice it because I am noticing the content. And that includes the fancy 2021 12.9 promotion mini led display. Sure, sometimes I admire it, but never seek it out, UNLESS, I am importing 61 MP raw images from my Sony camera for review. Then I bow down to the latest greatest tech.
Regarding the Air vs Pro, bear in mind that the Air displays a little less on its screen than the Pro.
This might seem weird, but I have an M1 11” Pro with ProMotion turned off because it feels weird to write with my Apple Pencil (which I use almost daily for school) with promotion turned on. It almost feels too smooth and unnatural compared to paper, and having that extra bit of latency sort of makes an illusion of friction. I don’t want to buy a paperlike (which I’ve tried on a friend’s iPad) since it compromises the touch experience. I haven’t really tested how having promotion on/off affects battery life, but I wouldn’t be surprised if having it off/unsupported saves power.
Yep. I have the iPad Air 2, and got the new 11” Pro a couple months ago. I really can’t tell the difference between the two or even my iPhone when scrolling…maybe a tiny bit, but nothing amazing. What should I be looking for? I didn’t get the 11” Pro for the ProMotion though. I would have gone with the Air 4 if it had Face ID.
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Under Accessibility > Motion > Limit Frame Rate.
Doesn’t make a difference in display Hz. Everything still looks 60Hz with or without compared to my other devices that do >=120Hz. So, ProMotion seems more like like FPS rather than display Hz.
Going to enable the option to see if it makes the device run cooler and increase battery life since it’s kind of pointless to have >60fps on a 60Hz display.
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