thoughts on the camera system iphone 11 Pro?

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so, what do you think?



can't argue it sounds impressive on paper and in presentation, but in actuality, I have always been kind of let-down by iphone cameras, with my 7+ still being kinda meeh

 

[MCAsan]

Not good news for companies that depend on camera revenue.

 

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I would argue that the most impressive feature was in combination with filmic's simultaneous rec through two cameras, mighty impressive really

 

[Kung gu]

No where near Note 10 +

have u tried it?

 

[NT1440]

I would argue that the most impressive feature was in combination with filmic's simultaneous rec through two cameras, mighty impressive really

Which really showcases the powerhouse that the A13 is. I don’t think anyone else has the CPU chops to capture from their multi camera setups in real time with all the other wizardry going on to boot. This was a huge camera upgrade.

 

[Gaprofitt]

have u tried it?

Yeah, I just wasn't impressed, .01 % improvement.

 

[bobnugget]

Would like to see some pro reviews. It's interesting to see QuickTake getting reused, though.

 

[Darmok N Jalad]

I think it will be fine for a smartphone camera. Millions of people will be perfectly happy with it. It sure is an ugly array though. I know Apple tried to sell it as an engineering masterpiece, but it just looks really busy. I think 3 vertical cameras would have looked better, but oh well. The base iPhone 11 seemed like a great deal though. I love my XR--it felt like a true upgrade from my old 6S.

 

[maflynn]

The smartphone camera with computational photography is continuing its assault on the camera business. I believe this is why Sony decided to use a 200mm focal length, other makers are trying also to differentiate their compact cameras but I think the erosion of sales will continue

 

[Susurs]

That technology capturing multiple images, exposures seemed to be “interesting”.

 

[Strider64]

The smartphone's camera is going to be just fine for 95 percent or so of the iPhone users, but for me nothing beats my Sony A9 & A7RIII cameras for photography. I can reach up to 840mm with my telephoto lens and teleconverter, but then if I really want to get a close up I can switch to my 90mm macro lens. I'll give a check mark to computational photography to smartphone, but there is nothing more gratifying than taking a picture and getting a fantastic result knowing it was you that composed the shot. To me it's kind of an unsatisfactory moment if I snap a picture with a smartphone and it decides what to put in or take out of the image to make it look like a fantastic image. It almost feels like you are cheating which is kind of weird as this is photography.

 

[steveash]

The smartphone's camera is going to be just fine for 95 percent or so of the iPhone users, but for me nothing beats my Sony A9 & A7RIII cameras for photography. I can reach up to 840mm with my telephoto lens and teleconverter, but then if I really want to get a close up I can switch to my 90mm macro lens. I'll give a check mark to computational photography to smartphone, but there is nothing more gratifying than taking a picture and getting a fantastic result knowing it was you that composed the shot. To me it's kind of an unsatisfactory moment if I snap a picture with a smartphone and it decides what to put in or take out of the image to make it look like a fantastic image. It almost feels like you are cheating which is kind of weird as this is photography.

I think there are a lot of people out there that want great photos but don’t care about photography. They just want their holiday/food/selfie snaps to look great.

It’s not really interesting to enthusiasts as mastering the skill and creativity is really the point of it all. It’s a bit like the demo button on an electronic piano. Do you want to listen to soulless perfection or learn to play it yourself?

 

[Ledgem]

I know Apple tried to sell it as an engineering masterpiece, but it just looks really busy. I think 3 vertical cameras would have looked better, but oh well.

I suspect the viewing angle would have become too different between the top and bottom cameras at that point. Having this type of array does look more ugly than a vertical line would have, but it clusters the cameras closer together so that there's less difference in perspective between them.

I'd need to use it to say for sure, but I think it's neat. I suspect it will also begin to open applications for photography that modern cameras can't perform. Having multiple sensors and lenses possibly operating together... that could lead to some interesting things. We probably were just scratching the surface when we had two; it'll be neat to see what we can do with three.

Also kind of reminds me of the Light L16. Anyone remember that?

Maybe that's where we're headed further down the road.

Either way I'm still using my 7+ with its dual-camera system. Works really nicely in great light, but otherwise I'm using my standard cameras. I think I can get by another year with my 7+, but if I do upgrade next year it'll be really tempting to go for one of the models that has three cameras instead of just two.

 

[mpfuchs]

Would like to see some pro reviews. It's interesting to see QuickTake getting reused, though.

Keep an eye on Austin Mann's website: http://austinmann.com
He usually gets advance copies from Apple to test in the field and his reviews always seemed genuine to me.

 

[MCAsan]

I will be sure to only take a 11ProMax on my next expensive photo trip and leave the Thinktank bag at home. Not.

 

[steveash]

Saved myself a few quid:

 

[robgendreau]

It's the camera hardware they had to have to keep up. What I want to see is where Apple might have the edge: with the processing and what 3rd parties do with it. That's a very fast processor they've got there, and an excellent display.

BTW, the video is important too. I'd say that prosumer and even pro use of the video is probably more important than the stills, although close. I think the crowd here tends to scale kind of old and dusty. I have met influencers on Insta and YouTube who for all intents and purposes are using iPhones for professional photography, right down to studio lighting and sound, sets, and even sometimes models. The need to instantly post is apparently still key even if they knew that occasionally a "real" camera might work better. And part of the point is to make it look like selfies (posies) or casual when it really isn't.

 

[swissbob]

The focal lengts are a bit strange .
13,26,52mm.

Especially 52mm are a bit short.

 

[mpfuchs]

The focal lengts are a bit strange .
13,26,52mm.

Especially 52mm are a bit short.

Just consider the sensor size behind it...

 

[RasAage]

Lets say I was to take a photo using the "normal" wide angle lens.
Would the 11 Pro use all three cameras at once to make sure the picture is sharp, or does it only use one camera at the time?

Cheers from an iPhone 7 owner wondering whether to update...

 

[r.harris1]

It's the camera hardware they had to have to keep up. What I want to see is where Apple might have the edge: with the processing and what 3rd parties do with it. That's a very fast processor they've got there, and an excellent display.

BTW, the video is important too. I'd say that prosumer and even pro use of the video is probably more important than the stills, although close. I think the crowd here tends to scale kind of old and dusty. I have met influencers on Insta and YouTube who for all intents and purposes are using iPhones for professional photography, right down to studio lighting and sound, sets, and even sometimes models. The need to instantly post is apparently still key even if they knew that occasionally a "real" camera might work better. And part of the point is to make it look like selfies (posies) or casual when it really isn't.

Even as a member of what you'd call "old and dusty" and what I'd call "wisdom through blood, sweat, tears and experience" crowd , I agree that the iPhone is terrific for the life-style/posie shots and their variations on instagram/social. With each release, the ability to quickly deliver well-composed nuanced portraits, still life, etc in different lighting conditions gets better. I may poke around with the new one (or maybe wait a year) to see how it does on some travel landscape stuff. It's nowhere near being a replacement for wildlife work that I do, for obvious reasons. Nor one for a lot of the landscape stuff I do either, but it is impressive. I do think where it excels is video. The Filmic demo was terrific. I look forward to seeing where computational photography takes us.

 

[MacNut]

It will be better than any point and shoot sold 10 years go. It still won't compete with a high end system but for most it will be all they need.

 

[robgendreau]

Even as a member of what you'd call "old and dusty" and what I'd call "wisdom through blood, sweat, tears and experience" crowd , I agree that the iPhone is terrific for the life-style/posie shots and their variations on instagram/social. With each release, the ability to quickly deliver well-composed nuanced portraits, still life, etc in different lighting conditions gets better. I may poke around with the new one (or maybe wait a year) to see how it does on some travel landscape stuff. It's nowhere near being a replacement for wildlife work that I do, for obvious reasons. Nor one for a lot of the landscape stuff I do either, but it is impressive. I do think where it excels is video. The Filmic demo was terrific. I look forward to seeing where computational photography takes us.

On more than one occasion, out hiking around with only a long lens, I've found it quite handy to whip out my iPhone X for a wide angle shot, or even a macro. And certainly inside buildings, for architecture, and anything wide angle in decent light. Helps to shoot in raw.

 

[eyeseeyou]

The smartphone's camera is going to be just fine for 95 percent or so of the iPhone users, but for me nothing beats my Sony A9 & A7RIII cameras for photography. I can reach up to 840mm with my telephoto lens and teleconverter, but then if I really want to get a close up I can switch to my 90mm macro lens. I'll give a check mark to computational photography to smartphone, but there is nothing more gratifying than taking a picture and getting a fantastic result knowing it was you that composed the shot. To me it's kind of an unsatisfactory moment if I snap a picture with a smartphone and it decides what to put in or take out of the image to make it look like a fantastic image. It almost feels like you are cheating which is kind of weird as this is photography.

I mean people have been taking raw photos with an iphone for years now and moment has high-quality lenses that you can use with your iphone in similar if not the exact way you use your DLSR's. Not saying that the iphone is better in every situation but for a lot of non-professional, casual photography the iphone(mobile phone) these days ia arguably the best option.
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Lets say I was to take a photo using the "normal" wide angle lens.
Would the 11 Pro use all three cameras at once to make sure the picture is sharp, or does it only use one camera at the time?

Cheers from an iPhone 7 owner wondering whether to update...

I don't know if it composes all 3 pics to form one but I know that it for takes at least 2 pics at the same time, 1 from the wide angle and one from the ultra wide angle.

 

[r.harris1]

On more than one occasion, out hiking around with only a long lens, I've found it quite handy to whip out my iPhone X for a wide angle shot, or even a macro. And certainly inside buildings, for architecture, and anything wide angle in decent light. Helps to shoot in raw.

Yes, I use my iPhone X in the same way if there’s decent light and there’s an opportunity for a quick shot. Always in raw. It’s still a long way from replacing my other gear in both how I shoot and in image quality and really, I’m not specifically looking for it to do so. But it is definitely part of my arsenal and I enjoy watching the improvements each year. I work in machine learning and AI and while very little of what I do is image related, I try and keep up with what’s happening in that space. Interesting stuff indeed.