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The slightly more exposed glass probably did not help. Still going caseless.

Despite knowing the excellent drop test results on the 14 PM, I immediately wanted to case it. The 15 PM doesn’t feel the same. It feels lighter, and the phone feels significantly thinner, despite being thicker.

Go with your comfort level, but I’m glad to finally be able to enjoy a caseless phone again, and feel un-precious about it.
 
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More tests are popping up on YouTube, but they are even less controlled so far, and at least one looks very fake... I'm sure we will get a good comparison, but those will take more time.

Interesting how the Natural one scratches here. The expose surface looks more the color of White Titanium.

 
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Ya another almost instant glass cracking, this time from waist high. Great phone, but probably not one to decide to go caseless with, just cause titanium should be stronger.

 
Oh yeah and the vast majority of us are going to put cases on our phones and all the drop tests on Youtube is the quick way to make e-waste out of expensive phones. I find nothing in those to be of any value to most of us except to show how to quickly destroy product.
 
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These videos are always funny to me, people who are this prone to dropping their phone or damaging it usually have cases or apple care. All I end up learning is "Hey, if you drop your phone from a decent height, it'll get damaged" which I have known since... I got my first phone back in 2006.
 
I came across 7 videos from YouTubers destroying the new iPhones to prove how strong they are . Is that even necessary? Everyone by now knows Apple makes quality items with decent amount of strength..
 
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Uncontrolled tests like these drop tests on YouTube are next to useless for evaluating strength. You need to make sure the phones all hit at the same spot and the same angle for them to make any sense at all and even then you cannot use an already damaged phone again and draw a conclusion from further drops.
 
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Yes you have to make the assumption that the drops are independent. If you do, you can calculate it like this:

Simplified scenario of 10 drops where on the 3 drops both phones had the same amount of damage.

The binomial probability formula is:

P(X=k)=(nk)⋅pk⋅(1−p)n−kP(X=k)=(kn)⋅pk⋅(1−p)n−k

Where:

  • nn is the number of trials (in this case, 10 drops)
  • kk is the number of successes (in this case, 7 drops where phone B had more damage)
  • pp is the probability of success on any given trial
  • (nk)(kn) is "n choose k," a binomial coefficient that can be calculated as n!k!⋅(n−k)!k!⋅(n−k)!n!
For the odds of this occurring by chance, we would assume that there is an equal probability that either phone could have more damage on any given drop, meaning p=0.5p=0.5.

Let's plug in the values and calculate the probability:

  • n=10n=10 drops
  • k=7k=7 drops where phone B had more damage
  • p=0.5p=0.5
P(X=7)=(107)⋅(0.5)7⋅(0.5)3P(X=7)=(710)⋅(0.5)7⋅(0.5)3

P(X=7)=10!7!⋅3!⋅0.510P(X=7)=7!⋅3!10!⋅0.510

P(X=7)=10⋅9⋅83⋅2⋅1⋅0.510P(X=7)=3⋅2⋅110⋅9⋅8⋅0.510 P(X=7)=1206⋅0.510P(X=7)=6120⋅0.510 P(X=7)=20⋅0.0009765625P(X=7)=20⋅0.0009765625 P(X=7)≈0.01953125P(X=7)≈0.01953125

However, to find the probability that phone B has more damage in 7 or more drops (i.e. 7, 8, 9, or 10 drops), we need to find the probability for each of these cases and then sum them up.

So, we also need to calculate:

P(X=8)=(108)⋅(0.5)8⋅(0.5)2P(X=8)=(810)⋅(0.5)8⋅(0.5)2 P(X=9)=(109)⋅(0.5)9⋅(0.5)1P(X=9)=(910)⋅(0.5)9⋅(0.5)1 P(X=10)=(1010)⋅(0.5)10⋅(0.5)0P(X=10)=(1010)⋅(0.5)10⋅(0.5)0

Let's calculate each of these and then sum them all up:

P(X≥7)=P(X=7)+P(X=8)+P(X=9)+P(X=10)P(X≥7)=P(X=7)+P(X=8)+P(X=9)+P(X=10)

P(X≥7)≈0.01953125+(108)⋅0.510+(109)⋅0.510+(1010)⋅0.510P(X≥7)≈0.01953125+(810)⋅0.510+(910)⋅0.510+(1010)⋅0.510

Let's calculate the individual terms:

  • P(X=8)≈451024≈0.0439453125P(X=8)≈102445≈0.0439453125
  • P(X=9)≈101024≈0.009765625P(X=9)≈102410≈0.009765625
  • P(X=10)≈11024≈0.0009765625P(X=10)≈10241≈0.0009765625
P(X≥7)≈0.01953125+0.0439453125+0.009765625+0.0009765625P(X≥7)≈0.01953125+0.0439453125+0.009765625+0.0009765625 P(X≥7)≈0.07421875P(X≥7)≈0.07421875

So, the probability that phone B has more damage in 7 or more drops by chance is approximately 0.07420.0742 or 7.42%7.42%.

Odds are another way of expressing probability and are usually given as a ratio of favorable to unfavorable outcomes. The odds of phone B having more damage in 7 or more drops by chance are:

Odds(X≥7)=P(X≥7)1−P(X≥7)Odds(X≥7)=1−P(X≥7)P(X≥7) Odds(X≥7)≈0.074218751−0.07421875Odds(X≥7)≈1−0.074218750.07421875 Odds(X≥7)≈0.074218750.92578125Odds(X≥7)≈0.925781250.07421875 Odds(X≥7)≈0.0801Odds(X≥7)≈0.0801

This means the odds are approximately 0.0801:1 or about 1:12.5 against this happening by chance.
I think “tl;dr” was invented because of you 😉

Seriously, this all looks impressive. Even if you made up everything, I would still be impressed. What is your profession?
 
I think you should watch it all lol. The differences between the two are not subtle. The end result is a demolished 15 Pro vs a still functional 14 Pro.
Yeah but who drops their phone like that? The first guy went to Australia to procure and destroy two beautiful pristine expensive iPhones.

Meanwhile we have people on this forum jumping through hoops to preserve batteries for future owners of their phones or holding onto phones longer than they financially need to because…environment.

I’m sure some people watching this will want to slap these you tubers into next week for this kind of waste. Especially because so many of these guys are doing basically the same thing. And especially because there are ever more people who could really use these phones but can’t afford them. It’s got to be galling to know your dream phone is being smashed to bits in video after video for such pointless spectacle.

At least on JerryRig everything, we get to see how the phones are constructed after all the damage is done. In total, that channel’s presentations are constructed to be somewhat informative.

Even so, I got plenty of use and life out of a phone Zach snapped like a graham cracker. It was meaningless to me that he did that because I took care of my phone like a sensible person would.

I get that it makes them money but it’s 2023 and people are starting to look at waste like this differently.
 
Interesting how the Natural one scratches here. The expose surface looks more the color of White Titanium.

It’s worth remembering that scratches to titanium heal, to some extent (the exposed titanium oxidises, returning the scratch back to its original, non-shiny, colour. (As owners of titanium watches will know.)
 
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It’s worth remembering that scratches to titanium heal, to some extent (the exposed titanium oxidises, returning the scratch back to its original, non-shiny, colour. (As owners of titanium watches will know.)
I didn’t actually think about that. Good point. If anyone does want a really minimal scratch protector, I am really digging this case:


I think just enough protection to likely keep the glass from shattering in most real world situations.
 
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