The Note 2 is my daily driver. Sold the Nexus 4.
I still occasionally use my 4S but never without also having my Note 2.
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The Note 2 is my daily driver. Sold the Nexus 4.
I still occasionally use my 4S but never without also having my Note 2.
Michael
I'm a device junkie
I like using both platforms (use my Nexus 4 alongside my iPhone 5). Always wanted to try Android out to see what I was missing (if anything). Mind you my 5 criteria are relatively general and really have nothing to do with the OS itself....
(1) Great Customer Service (go screw yourself Google)
(2) High quality feel/design (subjective)
(3) High quality LCD display (preference)
(4) Simple/not cluttered use (subjective)
(5) Timely OS updates
I have to have an iPhone for work (my company requires it) and despite Samsung's commercials, I WANT my work and personal lives separate.
Ah, I see. Best of both worlds. Ideal situation.
Yessir - I also use these criteria to help me pick between Android OEM's.....
Google gets me 4/5, HTC 3-4/5, Samsung 1-2/5
It will always be this way in EVERYTHING. Ati vs nvidia, glock vs XD, Subaru vs Mitsubishi, Xbox vs playstation, intel vs amd etc etc. If you have something you like their is a competitor product other people like.
I just enjoy the debate.
Yes except that they only specialize in Apple products. They are the techs that help you when you have a problem. They can decide whether to exchange your product without the need for a manager (In some cases). I've had both, good and bad experiences with Genius bar people. Some really know their stuff, some not so much. In general I always felt I new more than any of them
While some features were obviously on Android prior, it is still good that these features were implemented within IOS? At the end we the consumers win. For the other comments these are subjective..and based on consumer preferance some features are more valuable to others.
Also with all the features on android...do they really add value...for example Samsung has many features some are just gimmicks more for show (no real practical use - especially for the new S4) and sum are really great (sharing, being able to call by just picking up the phone). Just wanted to make the point that the iphone and its operating system is great and it works (With limitations) for many consumers. The iphone (Iphone 4/4s/5) combined still continue to sell and bring a consistant user experiance which is better than most android products with the exception of the Note 2
To be fair I don't think copied is the correct word. Like 3D flyover for example. Google had this for a while before Apple in the Google earth app. But to make a world class mapping system (like I'm sure Apple wants) something like this is almost basic functionality. So while some say its a copy I feel its just something that had to be done.
I use the word copy as more of an insult. Like the notification center in iOS, I hate it. It constantly blocks me from using the back button in many apps and turning it off is just as bad of an option. I feel that's a copy and poorly integrated at that.
Or when Apple was suing for slide to unlock and at the exact same time added camera from the lock screen. Granted I think they did a decent job at that but I was using vanilla android devices that had that feature. I consider that copying just based on timing.
I like to read through all the replies in these threads and when I don't see the OP participating, I move on from an obvious troll or lack in judgement during Happy Hour from Tapatalk. XD
Yes.
I use at least some of the Samsung features every day. Whether it is Quick Glance when my hands are dirty, S Pen to annotate a screen shot, or my alarm that reads me the morning news and weather. I use the toggles in the notification drop-down all of the time. That is simply not possible on an iPhone. I wanted more from my iPhone--since 2011. Apple begrudgingly got me to upgrade to the 4S but they lost me at the iPhone 5.
Michael
Kman,
You probably should have done a little research before posting this list. I realize many iPhone users believe that Apple innovated most of the features we use on all phones today, but it simply isn't the case. Apple either bought or stole, the majority of your list, and the rest of your points are personal opinion.
Notification Center was def not the best place for you to start. Google has the patent pending (has been for 4 years now) in the USPTO. The cost to Apple in a legal fight is enormous, so I'm not sure how long the Apple friendly USPTO will keep stalling this patent.
Auto message reply - Big time stolen from Android. And it is called "Quick Responses", and can be sent to anyone calling or texting while you are driving or in a meeting. Simply swipe up while the phone is ringing and a pre-worded message of your choice is texted back.
iMessage was another bad example to use - Flagrantly stolen direct from RIM's Blackberry Messenger service.
Apple's Maps - Good luck using this feature outside of the U.S. A very bad attempt by Apple to try and force Google off the iPhone. It backfired in their face.
Address and phone number recognition on a webpage - This is actually based from a broad stroke patent (#5946647) filed by Apple back in 1996, that simply describes a system and method that causes a computer to detect and perform actions on structures identified in computer data. However, Mitel Networks submitted and won the patent for mobile based platforms to do this very feature and was filed in July 2011. (Patent # US20130024873 A1) I'm sure there are other variants of this out there since Chrome and Firefox also have this feature.
Siri - Started out as an app by SRI Int'l (hence the name Siri, but was actually started by DARPA!) on the App Store. Apple bought the rights to the app and integrated it into iOS for the iP4s release. Not much was required by Apple, since the app was already coded for iOS. Hardware by Apple in the form of servers was the hard part. So, no innovation by Apple here. Google Now is now the better alternative anyway.
Enhanced hardware design? I would consider the iP5 a massive failure in hardware design. The frame was either too thin or the alloy of low grade because seeing so many iphones bent and scratched is an indication that Apple screwed up the design or materials used. As for overall look, an arguement can be made that we haven't seen a design change in 4, soon to be 5, generations. Basically, Apple stopped modifying the look of the iPhone when the 4 was released.
Enhanced processor and camera - Every flagship phone does this. This is nothing distinct or innovative. Moore's law dictates these sort of enhancements by its very nature.
I guess my question is what are you expecting from Apple. Almost every company with the electronic sector design products that need the needs of their respective target markets. If certain features are of benefit, what is the harm introducing and refining the experience..maybe your right apple did not cleary create however they have worked to perfect. If Apple did not bring these features forth you would be complaining that IOS lack the key features to be relevant. No phone in the past has even come close to the design of the Iphone 4-5 (this is starting to change with HTCs offerings)...Android phones have looked generic, made from cheap plastic and vary in quality.
Ok, I'll give you that, but then again, how else are you supposed to access a central place with all your notifications / where else would you go to access notifications you didn't take action on?
Ok, sorry that you think integrating Facebook can only be done on Android because they did it first.
Again, there's no other way to sync contacts, documents, etc other than the way iCloud and Google's services do it unless you can come up with something that's unlike them. Google's services has some downsides too as it doesn't back up things like home screen setups or any app data.
I'll give that to you as well, but then again, you can easily go download Google Maps from the App Store, which actually looks a lot better than the Android app...
Ok, that's true
This is true too, but do you really think Apple is gonna let non-iOS/Mac users use iMessage anyway? There's always something like WhatsApp for cross-platform messaging.
Except the difference between a Retina display with 326ppi and something like the DNA with a ppi of 440 is so minute that's it's BARELY noticeable due to both being past the threshold of pixels that the retina can discern. The iPhone and any display with a ppi higher than it are really clear so it really isn't a big deal. All it is is a spec for nerds.
Sure it lacks features, but you can always download something like Camera+ or something else from the App Store if you want more options. The new things on the GS4 are total gimmicks and will barely be used.
That's your opinion. Both are really high quality and really nice looking, just depends on which you like better. For the record, both are made out of aluminum and have chamfered edges so neither has higher quality materials then the other.
The fact is, Android devices are still not as smooth as iOS devices and even the GS4 (with an 8-core CPU) can be seen stuttering when just opening the app drawer. The GS3 drops frames in games like RR3 or Temple Run 2. The notification panel stutters when there are a bunch of notifications in it (on the Note 2 which is quad-core with 2GB of RAM). I've seen my iPhone 5 stutter MAYBE once and it's only dual-core with 1GB of RAM. Sure, if you do GeekBench, Quadrant, or AnTuTu, any Android device with a quad-core or 8-core CPU with obviously score higher than the iPhone 5, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's faster in real world usage.
The point is that the iPhone is still one of the smoothest devices along with Windows Phone and the former has no more than a dual-core CPU and 1GB of RAM.
Thanks for your opinion.
I only read the parts that made any sense or had substance behind them. And those were the numerous instances where you said "I'll give you that" before going off on a tangent about nonsense.
"Nonsense", meaning something you don't want to believe. I only said "I'll give you that" because it's clear how Apple "copied" the idea from Android (a notification panel) and there's no denying Apple Maps aren't amazing. If I denied those, I'd look like an idiot. I said the same for iMessage because I agreed with the fact that it's stupid how it's only on iOS and Mac, but then explained how it only makes sense for that to be so.
I was initially confused about why this sub forum exists but you know what? I like it.
I'll tell you why:
Being informed is a good thing and knowing what the competitors offer is the BEST way to make a conscious decision about what you're buying.
I've owned a myriad of different Android and iOS devices starting from the original iPhone and the Google G1. (I feel like Apple is still bitter about T-Mobile helping Google take a first punch at them and that's why there still isn't an iPhone on T-Mobile)
I've owned, in no specific order: iPhone 3G, 3GS, MyTouch 3G, iPhone 4, Thunderbolt, Incredible, Galaxy S3, Motorola Photon 4G (Wiimax), HTC Sensation 4G.
I've also owned an Asus Transformer (Tegra 2), Nexus 7, iPad 4, iPad Mini
Being on all those different devices makes me feel a lot more knowledgeable about the decisions I make. I'm in a better position to say whether the iPhone or Android is better for ME and what makes them better for ME.
Without this sub forum, I'd have to hang around Android Central or XDA forums in order to get the most unbiased information I can. If you love your iPhone, you should praise iPhone haters. Otherwise, who is going to keep Apple on their toes? Samsung? Apple has lawyers for that. But do they have lawyers to take care of disgruntled customers? No, because it's a better decision to take what they complain about and IMPLEMENT solutions.
I'll tell you why:
Being informed is a good thing and knowing what the competitors offer is the BEST way to make a conscious decision about what you're buying.
I've owned a myriad of different Android and iOS devices starting from the original iPhone and the Google G1. (I feel like Apple is still bitter about T-Mobile helping Google take a first punch at them and that's why there still isn't an iPhone on T-Mobile)
I've owned, in no specific order: iPhone 3G, 3GS, MyTouch 3G, iPhone 4, Thunderbolt, Incredible, Galaxy S3, Motorola Photon 4G (Wiimax), HTC Sensation 4G.
I've also owned an Asus Transformer (Tegra 2), Nexus 7, iPad 4, iPad Mini
Being on all those different devices makes me feel a lot more knowledgeable about the decisions I make. I'm in a better position to say whether the iPhone or Android is better for ME and what makes them better for ME.
Without this sub forum, I'd have to hang around Android Central or XDA forums in order to get the most unbiased information I can. If you love your iPhone, you should praise iPhone haters. Otherwise, who is going to keep Apple on their toes? Samsung? Apple has lawyers for that. But do they have lawyers to take care of disgruntled customers? No, because it's a better decision to take what they complain about and IMPLEMENT solutions.
Really. Maybe Apple stole the design of Iphone 4 from Nokia N78 which came out years before.
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n78-pictures-2254.php
Apple has been known to steal others design/tech and call it their own. They use their marketing to deceive (or sue) when someone said otherwise.
When Apple introduced Facetime, they said it is the first ever mobile video call. This is totally BS since 3G video call has been around for ages before Facetime. But how many iSheep believed Facetime is the first? Too many I said. So dont be one of them.
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I think you may be confused as to what innovation is.
in·no·va·tion noun \ˌi-nə-ˈvā-shən\
Definition of INNOVATION
1
: the introduction of something new
Unfortunately, the only things on your list that could really be called an innovation is Air Play, and MAYBE Passbook.
