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To Apple: Give Us a Matte Screen Option
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Benjamindaines said:
Apple is f*ck*n* shady by deciding to make only the MBP have the matte option. Apple makes great computers but they are overpriced and in many ways, can be seen as a rip off.
I believe this is a question of not finding any suppliers for 13.3" matte screens. I know I haven't seen one in any computer by any manufacturer.
And having a budget computer with such a specialized feature wouldn't make sense
And having a budget computer with such a specialized feature wouldn't make sense
I'm not buying a MacBook with a glossy screen, that's for sure. And it's the single biggest reason keeping me from buying one.
Damn the glare! Damn it to hell!
Damn the glare! Damn it to hell!
From my experience, the glossy screens glare are only seen when it is very bright out and you have the screen's backlight turned down pretty far. Other than that, I don't really notice the glare. Overall, I prefer the glossy because the richer colors are worth the trade of a bit of glare under certain circumstances.
Over priced... look up any other computer with similar things that you get in a MBP or MB the MBP may be very slighlty over priced right now in comparison, but a Dell with the same features as a MB is more $ just go to the Dell store and do a build, keep in mind if you want to do a true comparison include remote and media center, and bluetooth, then compare with the 2.0 core duo...MUCKYFINGERS said:
Parts wise, they are both equally good. One looks better than the other and runs a better OS, but the parts last just as long.dpaanlka said:
Hell my Apple hard drive (bought July 05, died May 06) died before my Dell hard drive (bought July 01, died never). Granted my Apple is a laptop and the Dell is a desktop.
I also agree that it's probably a supplier issue more than anything else. For the MBP, the extra cost in securing a supplier (not just the cost of the displays, but getting the quantity and quality of the displays -- and at the right price) can be justified / hidden in the price of the MBP.
Also, and I really can't say too much from the pro side, but I guess the matte finish is better for color-sensitive stuff, and if I were in photography, printing or videography, I'd be willing to pay whatever it took to make sure I was able to deliver the best product. But for consumers and non-design professionals (students?)-and who are we kidding, that's pretty much the market for the MB. And if I'm gaming or watching a DVD or writing a paper or on the internet, I'd rather stare at the "prettier" screen. (Given the choice, though, I'd still go with the matte, as it's what I'm used to.)
Also, and I really can't say too much from the pro side, but I guess the matte finish is better for color-sensitive stuff, and if I were in photography, printing or videography, I'd be willing to pay whatever it took to make sure I was able to deliver the best product. But for consumers and non-design professionals (students?)-and who are we kidding, that's pretty much the market for the MB. And if I'm gaming or watching a DVD or writing a paper or on the internet, I'd rather stare at the "prettier" screen. (Given the choice, though, I'd still go with the matte, as it's what I'm used to.)
dblissmn said:
They offer the glossy display on the MacBook Pro because they're available in 15.4 inch configurations. It's most likely that the matte displays are not available in 13.3 inch configurations since there are almost no other machines that size.
If someone wants to do colour critical work on the MacBook, they should be able to adjust themselves to work with the display. It's meant to be a consumer machine and until consumers start doing a lot of work on them, Apple aren't going to care about that.
I know that this a computer related site, but one of the key aspects to making a poll is its objectivity (or at least a nod to the appearance of same). Why bother starting a thread about an issue when:
A) The sensable answer is presupposed in the wording of the poll.
B) No poll or argument will convert opponents to the sensable position.
C) The undecided group (IMO the only group worth arguing for) isn't likely to NEED the choice with which the poll urges readers to agree.
I mean, if anybody does "real" work and needs a notebook, don't they already know what type of screen they need for their business. And don't the rest of "us" non professional users, have enough decisions to make about computers w/o getting into technical issues of graphics that will almost NEVER apply to our usage? If the home computer user outnumbers the professional computer user 8:1 (going by 2004 VA state Employment data comparing computer / IT employees to all other types of jobs -from my texbook, sorry no link
) why should Apple make this extra choice available to a market that doesn't need this option, AND knows that the option will hurt sales figures in it's Professional Laptop line?
A) The sensable answer is presupposed in the wording of the poll.
B) No poll or argument will convert opponents to the sensable position.
C) The undecided group (IMO the only group worth arguing for) isn't likely to NEED the choice with which the poll urges readers to agree.
I mean, if anybody does "real" work and needs a notebook, don't they already know what type of screen they need for their business. And don't the rest of "us" non professional users, have enough decisions to make about computers w/o getting into technical issues of graphics that will almost NEVER apply to our usage? If the home computer user outnumbers the professional computer user 8:1 (going by 2004 VA state Employment data comparing computer / IT employees to all other types of jobs -from my texbook, sorry no link
) why should Apple make this extra choice available to a market that doesn't need this option, AND knows that the option will hurt sales figures in it's Professional Laptop line?I'd like the option but I've got to say, having used a friend's MB for a few hours in various indoor light conditions (near windows at diff angles), I never had a problem with glare. I never even noticed it.
As for whether the glossy business is "below Apple", it seems to me Apple has always put a premium on attractive appearance and this isn't a whole lot different.
As for whether the glossy business is "below Apple", it seems to me Apple has always put a premium on attractive appearance and this isn't a whole lot different.
Loge said:
i got the glossy screen for my mbp without having seen it, so i know it wasnt the "OOOH SHINEY!!11" thing for me.
ive had a dell with a matte screen for four years and its hideous. when any sunlight hits it, the entire screen is completely washed out. ive noticed less problems with this screen than the matte dell. the colors are ultra crisp and beautiful, ive had *NO* trouble with glare, at all.. i dont understand the problem.
Likewise, just because they've grown more popular than traditional matte finish doesn't make them worse. The glare problem is so overblown, and almost exclusively by people who don't own them, that it borders on ridiculous. It's not even a step above the old "Macs can't use the Internet" myth. The glare's not even as bad as a CRT monitor or a television, and yet people seem to use those without problems.Loge said:
I can use my glossy notebook outside and in brightly lit rooms. Not so much with my PowerBook. If I have to move the screen 5 degrees or shift the computer an inch to the right from time to time, it's more than a fair trade for a brighter, richer, sharper picture.
while i was originally disappointed to hear that the macbooks featured glossy screens, now that i have been using mine for a few weeks, i love it. apple definitely didnt overdo the glossy finish. it looks amazing and i have no problems with glare.
technicolor said:
Actually I wouldn't use either for colour critical designs. I use an external monitor. How anyone could do design work on any laptop screen is beyond me.
I own a laptop computer for the convenience of being able to take my computer with me when I travel, not for the convenience of doing colour critical design
For me I like the glossy screen, it's bright and clear and when at a cafe out doors I can read without squinting.