buy em, i think i get mutual funds for 100 dollars a share. and apple is releasing (rumored) intel ibooks, and new intels are gonna come out soon afterward. go for it.
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Hoef said:buy apple stock and hedge your risk by buying put options 6 months out or so. If the stock tanks you can always exercise your option right to sell at a higher price.
i understand calls but how do puts work?
now both the MACD and STO are in a down phase so I wouldn't buy immediately.
buffalo said:
A put is essentially the opposite of a call. It is simply an option contract which gives the owner the right (but not the obligation) to sell a specified amount of a security at a specified price within a specified time. A put becomes more valuable as the price of the underlying stock depreciates.
As with calls, there are all sorts of variants as well - married puts, naked puts, synthetic puts...
out of curiosity, who is TEVANIAN, AVADIS??? it appears as though he's been doing some insider trading...
buffalo said:
Last I heard, Tavanian was a VP. He came to Apple from NeXT.
BTW, "insider trading" is illegal.
Avadis Avie Tevanian, Jr., Ph.D
Chief Software Technology Officer
Apple
As chief software technology officer, Avie Tevanian focuses on setting company-wide software technology directions for Apple. Tevanian joined Apple in February of 1997 as senior vice president of Software Engineering and is a recognized pioneer in creating cross-platform development environments used worldwide. Tevanian was appointed to his current role in 2003.
Before joining Apple, Tevanian was vice president of Engineering at NeXT and was responsible for managing NeXTs industry renowned engineering department. Tevanian started his professional career at Carnegie Mellon University, where he was a principal designer and engineer of the Mach operating system upon which NEXTSTEP is based.
Tevanian joined NeXT as an engineer on the NEXTSTEP team in January 1988. He quickly moved up the ranks and managed the operating system, responsible for NEXTSTEP development and technology advances. Tevanian then managed a team responsible for porting NEXTSTEP to RISC-based systems and development of Portable Distributed Objects, the NeXT technology that made it possible to develop software on multiple operating systems. He was vice president of NeXT engineering from March 1995, reporting directly to Steve Jobs.
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Insider stock transactions are typically pre-planned so as not to be "insider trading" which is illegal. Generally, the employees options become vested, they buy them and sell them to realize their gain.
Chief Software Technology Officer
Apple
As chief software technology officer, Avie Tevanian focuses on setting company-wide software technology directions for Apple. Tevanian joined Apple in February of 1997 as senior vice president of Software Engineering and is a recognized pioneer in creating cross-platform development environments used worldwide. Tevanian was appointed to his current role in 2003.
Before joining Apple, Tevanian was vice president of Engineering at NeXT and was responsible for managing NeXTs industry renowned engineering department. Tevanian started his professional career at Carnegie Mellon University, where he was a principal designer and engineer of the Mach operating system upon which NEXTSTEP is based.
Tevanian joined NeXT as an engineer on the NEXTSTEP team in January 1988. He quickly moved up the ranks and managed the operating system, responsible for NEXTSTEP development and technology advances. Tevanian then managed a team responsible for porting NEXTSTEP to RISC-based systems and development of Portable Distributed Objects, the NeXT technology that made it possible to develop software on multiple operating systems. He was vice president of NeXT engineering from March 1995, reporting directly to Steve Jobs.
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Insider stock transactions are typically pre-planned so as not to be "insider trading" which is illegal. Generally, the employees options become vested, they buy them and sell them to realize their gain.
IJ Reilly said:
Dude, that's BS. Insider trading is perfectly legal if the intention to buy/sell is given 6 months in advance.
the time to buy?
Now that the MWSF spike is comming back down (~$72 right now), would now be a good time to buy? Do you think there will be another spike in price with the next round of Intel announcements (maybe April 1, Apples 30 B-Day)?
What are your thoughts?
Now that the MWSF spike is comming back down (~$72 right now), would now be a good time to buy? Do you think there will be another spike in price with the next round of Intel announcements (maybe April 1, Apples 30 B-Day)?
What are your thoughts?
buffalo said:
Okay, but this is not by any means necessarily "insider trading." As you might remember from the Martha Stewart business, insider trading is trading on the basis of information not available to the general public -- and it's illegal.
buffalo said:
Hard to say. The markets are going to be watching the Intel transition very carefully and skeptically. Even a small hiccup could be treated like a major disaster by investors. Also, I think the markets are having a tough time digesting the Pixar-Disney merger news, and how that deal might impact on Apple. I don't see how it could be anything but positive in the long run, but that's just me and some of the things I've read.
If it were me considering the buying, I'd wait for a level of support to develop before taking the plunge. There's nothing so dangerous as trying to catch a falling knife.
buy now
apple has nowhere to go but up, its rocking both the personal and professional computer markets as well as the digital music arena.
apple has nowhere to go but up, its rocking both the personal and professional computer markets as well as the digital music arena.
I bought at 14, sold around 28. biggest mistake of my life. BUY APPLE. that is my recommendation. I think it will go up. way up. way way up.
buffalo said:
As I discussed above, I am short on AAPL right now, and plan on holding that position for a few more days at least - we'll see what Monday brings....
IJ Reilly said:
yes, yes, i've got it now. i don't know much about investing and all the lingo that goes with it. i was just going with the term i got on this invester website i use
kingjr3 said:
I'd still think that is far to much per share considering, I bought less then 2 years ago Apple Shares for about $13.50 per Share, and when I saw it I know it could not go lower... I'd say just wait, when it goes down a decent about then buy.
buffalo said:yes, yes, i've got it now. i don't know much about investing and all the lingo that goes with it. i was just going with the term i got on this invester website i use
No worries, we all have to learn at some point. If you need any advice or would like to learn more about investing, just ask some questions - even though it may not be Mac-related, there are many experienced investors and traders on here such as myself who would be more than happy to help you out.
I bought 10 shares at 46 and couldn't be happier. All I can say is, if you do choose to buy, then good luck, and get ready to jump aboard the gravy train
Buy before "fun" event?
I'm trying to get my Dad to buy some AAPL on Monday. He's saying that he might buy 100 shares, so do I have the right thinking that this Feb 28 event will bring a temporary spike to the price?
Should I go ahead and keep pushing for the sale, or is there some reason that it should not be bought?
I'm trying to get my Dad to buy some AAPL on Monday. He's saying that he might buy 100 shares, so do I have the right thinking that this Feb 28 event will bring a temporary spike to the price?
Should I go ahead and keep pushing for the sale, or is there some reason that it should not be bought?
buffalo said:
There are no sure things in life besides death and taxes. This has never been more true when talking about the stock market. It is essentially educated gambling, and is anyone's guess most of the time. If we all knew what was going to happen, we'd all be rich.
News like this doesn't necessarily equate to a jump in the stock price. It is not that simple. I definitely wouldn't push your dad into the sale, especially because it is his money not yours. Ask him if he has done his homework and research on the stock before purchasing it. If he hasn't, then making a purchase as you're suggesting would be a very foolish thing to do - akin to not studying for a final exam you've paid $7000 to write. If your dad doesn't even know Apple's price history, NAV, P/E, EPS, and other basic fundamentals (or heaven forbid what those even mean!
) then there is no way he should be making an investment like that. AAPL has been over priced since the last couple of months. when it hit an all time high of $80++, i knew that the bubble was going to burst. it was only time before investors lost confidence in AAPL and the prices of its share began to plummate. AAPL shares have been over inflated, majorly due to small investors like us who have 'superficial' confidence in the company due to its products. don't misinterpret me though. i am a big mac fan and i think Apple has done a good job with its products. however, the shares of AAPL at $80++ is just over inflated. AAPL shares have a 'real' value of $65-70. in my opinion, i wouldn't buy AAPL if its for pure speculation. if you want to invest, yes, by all means. Apple is a stable company and its shares are worth investing in. but if you try to make a quick buck, no, AAPL is not for you. this is just my two cents worth.
ironic23 said:
Agreed, well said. Ironically, although I have made money over the years with AAPL here and there, I most recently made money by shorting the stock from $85 down to $68, and made a sizable amount in only a couple of weeks. So yes, one could argue that if you're trying to make a quick buck, you might almost be better off selling as opposed to buying.
I'm probably more aware than Apple's stock history than he is, but I have disscussed purchasing before, so he has decent awareness of it's history.
We do have access to an investor website which has the fundamentals, which right now are looking very well, and MACD and STO, which are also looking good. That along with the fact that the last few product announcements (nano, 5G, and MWSF) have brought spikes to the price, is why I was pushing for a purchase.
...But you are right. I would feel very bad if we lost money (but great if we made money!!!) My wishful logic is buy in at $71.50, have great new products be announced, price climbs to $~80, sell when it starts to dip ($78-79), make $600 - about $100 in buy and sell fees and come out with about $500. Of course, it could go all wrong, but it don't need to explain that. Another possiblity would be to just not buy this time but use it as a reference, or pratice...
We do have access to an investor website which has the fundamentals, which right now are looking very well, and MACD and STO, which are also looking good. That along with the fact that the last few product announcements (nano, 5G, and MWSF) have brought spikes to the price, is why I was pushing for a purchase.
...But you are right. I would feel very bad if we lost money (but great if we made money!!!) My wishful logic is buy in at $71.50, have great new products be announced, price climbs to $~80, sell when it starts to dip ($78-79), make $600 - about $100 in buy and sell fees and come out with about $500. Of course, it could go all wrong, but it don't need to explain that. Another possiblity would be to just not buy this time but use it as a reference, or pratice...
if you want to make money in the share market at this present time, use the principle of "maximize your earnings and minimize your losses". Take google for instance. Google dropped to $380 a couple of weeks ago and thinking that it was at its low, i went in. however, google dropped to like $320 a few days later. deciding to take the risk again, i went in again hoping to off-set my losses from when i bought at $380. knowing that google had some 'off-the-scene' troubles, it was a mighty risk to take but i decided google had 'other' things up their sleeves as well as the need to boost their own shares to draw more investor confidence. i was right (this time) and the shares are up to the $370 region in which i sold all my shares, losing $10 per share from the first time i bought and making $50 per share from the second buy-in. Try to start off with small investments. Investing in a $100 share is just as good as investing in a $20 share if both their earning % are the same. And to the previous poster, i knew what i had said well before you posted.