Tom @ Create-Pro taking over Mac GPU development Create Pro

[MacVidCards]

If that's the case then I think you'll have to make some requests on netkas for a suitable official UK or EU agent before they get a burgled foothold in the single market. If they have big pockets they could always sue on your behalf anyway

Yanking pages from their server, but not a word here.

Lookin' sketchy.

Thank goodness their potential customers will be headed to this thread via our friends at Google.

 

[Gav Mack]

Yanking pages from their server, but not a word here.

Lookin' sketchy.

Thank goodness their potential customers will be headed to this thread via our friends at Google.

Indeed. I wouldn't stop at European agents either. Africa, South America, Hong Kong, Taiwan in fact anywhere outside the North American free market where your base is already covered for commercialisation of the code you both have developed. You have to close Pandora's box outside your market now that I'm pretty sure of now else there will be more and more rip-off merchants making money off your own sweat and tears not only in Europe but everywhere else, which is fine to share amongst enthusiasts for personal use but for increased sales that is not the market you need to be aiming at. The Pro and I can't solder for toffee market really is the place to be with fast support and backup, plus 5,1's still being very capable, even more so since Apple PCIe SSD have came out to upgrade to close that gap.

Personally if I was Create Pro with the size of the company they are and the good reputation they have here I would regard this as a great opportunity before another UK firm steps in and has your business. For the extra expenditure licensing from you and protecting your IP in their own market, the prospect of second tier support directly from yourselves, perhaps even a private dev section setup on netkas for these agents and trusted fellow members and increased sales as a consequence they would have to be bonkers not to consider it. Me - I wish I had the money, the time and the team to support and market the products properly cos I would knocking on your door asking to be your agent!

 

[Tom-Create-Pro]

We have spoken with our EFI programmer for our custom cards and he has stated that in fact for the Titan and Titan Black GPU they have indeed used the original MVC rom to serve as a starting point. We had no idea about this and we put our hands up for it. The actual story is as follows, a client asked if we could get his card (a Titan) working with internal power, it turns out this GPU was from MacVidCards (inventory 33584 FYI). We took the challenge, and our guy got it to work, simple as that. We have never sold a single Titan that hasn’t had this mod, hence we have only sold the Titan & Titan Black cards with internal powering. As far as we know this is the worlds only EFI, internally powered Titan for the Mac Pro.

We obviously have done our own work on top of the original rom with our internal power mod, this mod extends to the ATI R9 280X. We created the world’s first dual R9’s with full internal power, something again only we supply.

In essence we now have a completely new mod of the original rom for the Titan’s performed by MacVidCards, if someone was to then take this work we have done and add/improve to it we would not be offended. Hopefully someone will one day so we can all gain more from these cards. We will not be rude to the modder, we will not flame them in forums. In all honesty we will simply congratulate the modder and try to improve on that new mod.

We have a new EFI Titan super rom developed and its even more amazing then any done before and once again runs on internal power, this will be offered to all of our Professional EU customers as always and include our same 1 year warranty that we offer on all of our systems.

If MacVidCards would like the us to acknowledge the fact that our Titan rom’s (and only those) started off life with them then we have no problem with that and would be happy to do so. However, we have now improved on the original mod and moved forward with it. This will make some happy, some annoyed, I call it progress.

We only have happy customers, as does MacVidCards and that's what matters. We are in the process of Making some youtube videos that show our new cards running with benchmarking, our new Titan S EFI's are getting these kind of scores…

 

[Tom-Create-Pro]

And the last image...

 

[Gav Mack]

Tom - I do not want to get into a can of worms as to who's knowledge and expertise your programmer gained the skills and know how from nor see MVC response when he wakes up, this is not the place! With the 980 and future AMD designs also in development I can only see MVC and Netkas closing off access to the enthusiast community who can mod their own cards to the detriment of us all - and if they are getting their skills commercialised and not for their own benefit will mean I don't blame them one bit but we will all end up losers and worse for it.

For all our UK and EU sakes could you and MVC send each other private messages and take all this off this board and furthermore netkas until you both strike a deal. Phone, email, skype, conference calls, meetings even you name it - which is the best thing for all of us because I would want to buy sanctioned cards off you and recommend you to every single client who poo-pooed getting a faster GPU from the states because the support and backup isn't here where it needs to be.

I do not want to see a flame war in public - I want to source and recommend cards from yourselves with an absolutely clear conscience fella with a deal being struck with you as the official UK and EU agent and we all win!

 

[666sheep]

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I call BS. Your whole "mod" is undervolting the GPU with clock offset.
Anyone with half a brain and Kepler Bios Tweaker can do it.
Same with R9 – these weren't your invention in any manner – you just took Prince's ROMs which he posted on a MR.
Again – anyone with VBE7 can do it (and did before).

Don't spread the BS, please.
Only people without a clue can be fooled with your turgid words.

What EFI you're using in these "super duper" Titan ROMs?
Don't answer...

You joined to the board just to promote your company. Your every single post screams that.

 

[sirio76]

You joined to the board just to promote your company. Your every single post screams that.

This reminds me of someone

 

[MacVidCards]

Doubling down on the lies.

Ripping the evidence of the server after the horse got out of the barn tells us all we need to know.

If lies were cats this guy would be a litter.

Not sure what a CUDA-Z screenshot is supposed to show. Perhaps that your brilliant programmer couldn't figure out how we enabled the Double Precision switch to work?

What is the point of posting if you have no interest in telling the truth?

 

[m4v3r1ck]

-.-. --.- ("Who are you peoples?")

.

Welcome to Mac Rumors! Competition in a competitive market is good!

But, "Who are you peoples?" ~ Spielberg - Close Encounter Of The Third Kind

Never heard of you since I became a member of Mac Rumors in 2011 and never had the opportunity to read any post from you on this board regarding the sience of making EFI ROM for PC Graphics Cards.

Nice to meet you!

 

[CASLondon]

pass the popcorn......

 

[m4v3r1ck]

pass the popcorn......

Only in exchange for a Cola!

 

[goMac]

Oh lord, two people arguing about something that's rights belongs to neither of them. It's a derivative of a copyrighted work. Nobody here has rights to it.

: insert popcorn gif here :

 

[MacVidCards]

We have spoken with our EFI programmer for our custom cards and he has stated that in fact for the Titan and Titan Black GPU they have indeed used the original MVC rom to serve as a starting point. We had no idea about this and we put our hands up for it. The actual story is as follows, a client asked if we could get his card (a Titan) working with internal power, it turns out this GPU was from MacVidCards (inventory 33584 FYI). We took the challenge, and our guy got it to work, simple as that. We have never sold a single Titan that hasn’t had this mod, hence we have only sold the Titan & Titan Black cards with internal powering. As far as we know this is the worlds only EFI, internally powered Titan for the Mac Pro.

We obviously have done our own work on top of the original rom with our internal power mod, this mod extends to the ATI R9 280X. We created the world’s first dual R9’s with full internal power, something again only we supply.

In essence we now have a completely new mod of the original rom for the Titan’s performed by MacVidCards, if someone was to then take this work we have done and add/improve to it we would not be offended. Hopefully someone will one day so we can all gain more from these cards. We will not be rude to the modder, we will not flame them in forums. In all honesty we will simply congratulate the modder and try to improve on that new mod.

We have a new EFI Titan super rom developed and its even more amazing then any done before and once again runs on internal power, this will be offered to all of our Professional EU customers as always and include our same 1 year warranty that we offer on all of our systems.

If MacVidCards would like the us to acknowledge the fact that our Titan rom’s (and only those) started off life with them then we have no problem with that and would be happy to do so. However, we have now improved on the original mod and moved forward with it. This will make some happy, some annoyed, I call it progress.

We only have happy customers, as does MacVidCards and that's what matters. We are in the process of Making some youtube videos that show our new cards running with benchmarking, our new Titan S EFI's are getting these kind of scores…

So, let me see if I have this straight.

You take our Titan rom, down clock the bejesus out of it until it performs below a GTX780 and call that a "super" rom and an "improvement". It also looks like your hatchet job on the rom broke the double precision ability, your customers should be able to simply hit that button on the web driver and see the Double Precision go up by a factor of 5, as shown in our screenshots. I would consider a card that doesn't work to be "broken" and requiring warranty work.

Basically you have turned a Titan into a VERY expensive GTX780 6GB.

This is your "super improvement"?

I'm not following what you have accomplished.

 

[m4v3r1ck]

Oh lord, two people arguing about something that's rights belongs to neither of them. It's a derivative of a copyrighted work. Nobody here has rights to it.

: insert popcorn gif here :

It's not about (copy)rights, it's all about SHOWING OF with other peoples work! I hate that behaviour. PERIOD!!!

PS I'll send the popcorn per PM! (iMAX 3D)

 

[MacVidCards]

It's not about (copy)rights, it's all about SHOWING OFF with other people's work! I hate that behaviour. PERIOD!!!

PS I'll send the popcorn per PM! (iMAX 3D)

To me it's the incredible amount of lying that should raise some flags.

In 10 posts or so he has told (and been caught in) a fleet of lies and half-truths.

If I was shopping for a $10K edit system I would not want to be dealing with "We'll say whatever it takes to get the sale"

 

[m4v3r1ck]

Nuff said

To me it's the incredible amount of lying that should raise some flags.

In 10 posts or so he has told (and been caught in) a fleet of lies and half-truths.

If I was shopping for a $10K edit system I would not want to be dealing with "We'll say whatever it takes to get the sale"

MVC: You're absolutely in the right! ~ PF

TCP: Just give MVC/Netkas and all other tweakers the credit that they deserve for their hard work, keeping Mac Rumors a place to be for all non-technicals (noobs) like me, so we can keep our Mac in a state-of-the-art manner! That's what forums like Mac Rumors are for!

If you play a fair game here, you might end up with some customers...! It's just like a FiFa soccer game: Respect & Fair Play

NUFF SAID by me.... Cheers to all!

 

[OS6-OSX]

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[MacVidCards]

A quick recap.

Tom from Create-Pro announced that they had created a stunning new Titan EFI card.

I asked if it was in fact our card he was hawking.

He swore that it absolutely was not.

Some enterprising folks discovered that they had previously posted screen shots ON THEIR SITE that showed "MacVidCards" in Rom Revision field. IN fact, the shots were still on their server.

They quietly removed said images.

Tom came and posted another fleet of lies and nonsense, including more screen shots that proved they had actually broken the Titan rom they copied. (little secret, it was designed to break if dimbulbs copied it, it worked)

Tom has gone quiet again.

I have heard from one of their customers. Appalled to have been taken by the charlatans. First of many I imagine.

When the GTX980 Mac EFI card comes out, where do you think it will come from? Us or Fly-By-Night Industries of Lower Ipswich?

You guys want a few more fun cards before we call it quits, yes? We need your support. The cards aren't going to come from these clowns.

 

[Gav Mack]

A quick recap.

Tom from Create-Pro announced that they had created a stunning new Titan EFI card.

I asked if it was in fact our card he was hawking.

He swore that it absolutely was not.

Some enterprising folks discovered that they had previously posted screen shots ON THEIR SITE that showed "MacVidCards" in Rom Revision field. IN fact, the shots were still on their server.

They quietly removed said images.

Tom came and posted another fleet of lies and nonsense, including more screen shots that proved they had actually broken the Titan rom they copied. (little secret, it was designed to break if dimbulbs copied it, it worked)

Tom has gone quiet again.

I have heard from one of their customers. Appalled to have been taken by the charlatans. First of many I imagine.

When the GTX980 Mac EFI card comes out, where do you think it will come from? Us or Fly-By-Night Industries of Lower Ipswich?

You guys want a few more fun cards before we call it quits, yes? We need your support. The cards aren't going to come from these clowns.

Check your PM fella

 

[MacVidCards]

Got an email from Phil...or is it Richard?

An email that contained past emails I had with someone at "Scrumpymacs" named "Richard."

But was from someone named "Phil" at "Create Pro"

Swore Tom hadn't spoken a single untrue word.

And yet of course there is obvious reality....

Notes to whoever wishes to converse with me:

1. I am not a moron.

2. I just want the truth. The 15 different stories from different people with same emails is boring and weird.

3. Stop lying. Just contact me with real name and what you are up to.

4. Threatening to make our roms "Open Source" doesn't make you sound legit, it's a cheap threat.

5. Stop lying...did I mention this one before?

Whoever is contacting me and asking to work out a deal...STOP LYING.

 

[CASLondon]

Sheet is getting real. This is starting to make the East Coast - West Coast Rap Beefs of the early nineties look tame.

Lets not spoil a good thing here, guys.....mac pro GPU upgrade 4Evah. We need something to beat the forces of Apple Rot driven Cupertino to solder down every last bit of component in our machines.

 

[roobarb!]

Sheet is getting real. This is starting to make the East Coast - West Coast Rap Beefs of the early nineties look tame.

Lets not spoil a good thing here, guys.....mac pro GPU upgrade 4Evah. We need something to beat the forces of Apple Rot driven Cupertino to solder down every last bit of component in our machines.

Your sentiment is good, but from where I'm sitting, the new development ain't going to come from Ipswich. MacVidCards has consistently shown he can deliver the actual goods; then other people take those goods and sell them as their own. That's not on.

If MacVidCards is going to spend the time, then we need to spend the money with him. On the point of getting cards to the UK, I for one would be more than happy to pay for the ROM alone and take the risk getting it on a card. That way, I know my pennies are going to the man who made it work.

 

[Tom-Create-Pro]

We will not be posting to this thread anymore and can only apologise for all the trouble caused by our unknowing misuse of the MacVidCards EFI. We have posted our new developments in a new thread and hope this makes the community a happier place in the future.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1814378/

 

[CASLondon]

Your sentiment is good, but from where I'm sitting, the new development ain't going to come from Ipswich. MacVidCards has consistently shown he can deliver the actual goods; then other people take those goods and sell them as their own. That's not on.

If MacVidCards is going to spend the time, then we need to spend the money with him. On the point of getting cards to the UK, I for one would be more than happy to pay for the ROM alone and take the risk getting it on a card. That way, I know my pennies are going to the man who made it work.

I hand carried my MVC card across the pond, I agree

 

[Gav Mack]

Your sentiment is good, but from where I'm sitting, the new development ain't going to come from Ipswich. MacVidCards has consistently shown he can deliver the actual goods; then other people take those goods and sell them as their own. That's not on.



If MacVidCards is going to spend the time, then we need to spend the money with him. On the point of getting cards to the UK, I for one would be more than happy to pay for the ROM alone and take the risk getting it on a card. That way, I know my pennies are going to the man who made it work.

Couldn't agree more. As far as the UK and EU is concerned, IF anything is to happen it has to be in a situation where he is rightfully paid for his sanctioned cards. I have been looking at all his hard work and gleaning his advice to expand my knowledge which mostly isn't card related for years now not to think otherwise.

I will be over the moon if it ends up that everyone in the UK and Europe can have much easier access to his products and mvc is much wealthier for it. Would make me feel good that the good guys get their just desserts even if I never bought a flashed card.