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Personnally, I think Apple should be embarrassed if they sold a computer in 2014 with a spinning hard drive, especially one that slow. If they do, and they're not, then we should be embarrassed for them.

Actually they are. Their current flagship iMac line comes outfitted with stock 5400 on the 21.5" and 7200 on the 27". It's much more embarrassing for the consumers than for Apple.
 
Also, you are all crazy.

The new Mac Mini will be the size of the Airport Express and it will be based on the Apple A7x processor. That is what is taking so long; reworking Mac OS to run on the ARM 64 architecture.

You'll see.

(This is mostly sarcasm; however, if I am right I want to be hailed as a visionary.)
 
Suppose they do release an updated Mini in two weeks at WWDC. Suppose it's just like the current mini, with comparable specs to the current Macbooks (Haswell, PCIe SSD, AC wifi, etc). Would this situation please people? Would people feel uncomfortable given how soon on the horizon Broadwell is?
Fine with me -- I just want up-to-date hardware inside, preferably with TB2 instead of the current TB1.
 
Fine with me -- I just want up-to-date hardware inside, preferably with TB2 instead of the current TB1.
At this point I'd be a bit disappointed that there's no redesign after such a long delay; but yeah, Haswell is fine for what I want (replace my 2008 Mac Pro with a much smaller machine that's just as powerful) so long as it can get Iris Pro.

The main differences with Broadwell that affect Apple's release are better power consumption/less heat, and the option of a smaller die-size, which might be important depending on any internal or external redesign. Otherwise it's still mainly an incremental improvement; some slight integrated GPU improvements, a few more optimisations for running virtual machines etc.; you'll still need to get the higher-end models to get Iris Pro type graphics for example.
 
At this point I'd be a bit disappointed that there's no redesign after such a long delay

I actually don't want a redesign. A redesign likely means soldered RAM and proprietary SSD; like the Macbook Air, Macbook Pro Retina, and 21" iMac.

Frankly I love the current look of the Mac Mini, and I love how it is possible to tinker with.
 
Also, you are all crazy.

The new Mac Mini will be the size of the Airport Express and it will be based on the Apple A7x processor. That is what is taking so long; reworking Mac OS to run on the ARM 64 architecture.

You'll see.

(This is mostly sarcasm; however, if I am right I want to be hailed as a visionary.)
Shh if someone from apple reads that they would probably do it "even more integrated with iOS" Im waiting for the Airs to become iPads with a built in keyboard marketed as "An entry level Mac Laptop" then OSX to get "Future UI" where it boots you to launch pad.
Remember all it takes is a guy at a meeting to suggest it and another to say "thats a great idea"
 
Each to their own!

I miss my acrylic BT keyboard.

I still have mine….. stashed away in a cupboard somewhere. Dunno why, I don't miss it. I far prefer the aluminium one I got to replace it.

As to the shape of the Mini….. The skinnier, taller original does it for me because of its smaller footprint.
 
Ouch, I still see a few of these things around too.

I have 2. Well a 5th gen iPod video and a classic. We use them in water-proof cases for our "river radio". Basically an ice chest cooler, 4 - 6.5" speakers inserted into the sides of the cooler, a car battery, a car amp and RCA to Headphone jack out of the cooler to the iPod.

Back on topic, I don't believe I'll update to a newer Mac Mini for quite a while, my 2012 i7 is doing just fine but interesting tidbit of info that it has the most days in between it's siblings.
 
My 2012 Mac Mini suddenly burst into flames upon realizing this.

I would agree.
However, I do need a couple of new Mac-Minis as HTPCs to drive the new 4K televisions I purchased.

The wait for the update is killing me, not because my previous technology would be instantly obsolete rather I need to make new purchases and would like to be able to have the lifespan and specs of current technology.
 
mojo wrote above:
[[ 100% this. I hope the current case stays around forever, because any replacement is 99% likely to be locked-down and tamper-proof. ]]

I'd like to see them keep the same case dimensions, but make the top plate -removable-.

That would make accessing the internal drives -easy-.

I can understand why they won't do this.
 
Won't they have to refresh out of necessity? I wonder if Intel even makes the processors that the mini uses anymore...
 
I thought the Retina Display was the refresh of the MacBook Pro line.

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The overall iPod lineup went forward while the iPod Classic went EOL. I don't consider the Classic it's own product line.

In that case the desktop line was updated this past December, so the desktop line is up to date
 
We can only hope that the mini is not replaced by the rumoured cheaper iMac at WWDC. I don't think this can completely discounted, unfortunately. But then the reports of the mini's demise has often been over exaggerated. Long May that continue.

Instead, let's look at the glass half full. I believe we'll see a more 'mini' mini around Sept this year.

Priced more aggressively, (starting at US$499), it'll have the now common blade SSD, soldered RAM, dual TB2, decent (integrated) graphics, quad CPU and being fanless, it'll be super quiet. No FW, no 2.5" HDDs.

The way they see it, anyone who's using a mini as a htpc already has external(s) for the mass of media files. And for everyone else, small and sexy is better. If you need more, buy a more expensive iMac, or massively expensive MP. Just stop asking for the xMac. It ain't ever coming more that it did in 2011 with the 6300m.
 
As to the shape of the Mini….. The skinnier, taller original does it for me because of its smaller footprint.

I agree on the practicality, but prefer the seamless style of the newer model (I won't say "new" after so long between refreshes).

There is one way to reduce the footprint much further, build the Mini into the back of a keyboard. As the Mini uses laptop parts, imagine a MacBook Pro without the lid, because the screen is not needed. The battery and touchpad are not needed, so remove the front half of the laptop base. Plenty of room along the back for all the ports now the hinge has gone. Now you have a modern day Commodore 64 form factor.
 
We can only hope that the mini is not replaced by the rumoured cheaper iMac at WWDC. I don't think this can completely discounted, unfortunately. But then the reports of the mini's demise has often been over exaggerated. Long May that continue.

Instead, let's look at the glass half full. I believe we'll see a more 'mini' mini around Sept this year.

Priced more aggressively, (starting at US$499), it'll have the now common blade SSD, soldered RAM, dual TB2, decent (integrated) graphics, quad CPU and being fanless, it'll be super quiet. No FW, no 2.5" HDDs.

The way they see it, anyone who's using a mini as a htpc already has external(s) for the mass of media files. And for everyone else, small and sexy is better. If you need more, buy a more expensive iMac, or massively expensive MP. Just stop asking for the xMac. It ain't ever coming more that it did in 2011 with the 6300m.

It will be interesting to see how cool this one runs, assuming you are right, which I think you are on the right track, for sure.
But the current mini WITH a fan runs hot, how hot will the FANLESS one run??? That is the question.
 
I don't see a new one coming now till Broadwell, so looking at Christmas time according to Intel.

If they were going to launch a Haswell based Mini should have arrived by now!
I don't think we will see a very big adjustment in the mini for a while maybe just a very small update. I think they will probably update everything with an option for the Broadwell when its available and it will go down the entire lineup in this order: MP, MBP, iMac, Mini/Air. Theres no way the first thing to get Broadwell will be the Mini. Maybe the Pro will keep a Xenon but i doubt it.

I guess we will see but I think this will be a very long cycle for the mini imo.
 
It will be interesting to see how cool this one runs, assuming you are right, which I think you are on the right track, for sure.
But the current mini WITH a fan runs hot, how hot will the FANLESS one run??? That is the question.

Broadwell is supposed to be lower power. I'm not sure about the specific CPUs coming out, but maybe they'll move to ulv?
 
If Apple incorporated all of your ideal changes, then there would be very little reason for anyone to buy a nMP or even a rMBP. Not to mention the prohibitive cost of the base model of your proposed system which would be over $1000 (which defeats the whole purpose of getting new folks into the Apple ecosystem on the cheap).

#3 has no chance. The base models will almost certainly come with the traditional 5400HD or if you're lucky a 7200 from which you can choose to upgrade to PCI.

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Totally disagree with this. If they are going to do a redesign I would expect them to eliminate the hdd slots all together and go with all pcie storage like they have been doing in all of their other models. I can't see them putting ancient technology into a newly redesigned mac mini for another 3 or 4 years.

Also it isn't really an either or option for spinner or PCI since they are different connectors. If they cut the cord to spinners and allow pcie storage they will do it completely since they are different interfaces and not swappable.
 
I suppose.....

that the refresh cycle will be longest, if a redesign is involved. Also, Apple has to have the Intel updates in place to attempt a refresh. And maybe internal considerations/deliberations can go on Apple about where to go with the mini. I think Apple would release the mini until is no longer profitable.....:D


:):apple:
 
it'll be in a case that matches the tall thin aesthetic of the Airport Extreme & Time Capsule, so they can use / market the cooling tower thermal management of the nMP, and fit in the wifi aerials that the Extreme uses. :p
 
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