I too have tried several other apps and always come back to Tweetie because it works the best. I hope it continues to work as well over Edge with the new version, as that is what makes it win every time for me. The only other app that comes close over edge is Tweetdeck, but I don't want to make a new column every time I search for something on my iPhone. Tweetie is simply the best and I can't wait for the new version, which I will happily pay $3 for.
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I think you're being way too hard on him. Every developer copies off each other to some small extent as others I'm sure copied Tweetie. I hardly think he was in any way cryptic about his posts but I'm sure others can feel the way you do. As for the push notifications this is another post which shows it working:
http://mashable.com/2009/09/28/tweetie-2-0/
As for the uniqueness of Tweetie when it first came out, there were already many good Twitter apps that were out at that time that had more features. Tweetie was successful because it was incredibly easy to use and it seemed to be the fastest. Yes the other Twitter apps have caught up and in your view have surpassed Tweetie. I hope that people try out these other apps because they are really good. My preference for Tweetie comes appreciating a very simple and clean UI which is geared towards speed with a modest amount of features. Birdfeed has also become popular using this method.
The "push" screenshot there seems to be explaining the hash tag, not a push alert.
I think the thing that gets me the most about Loren is that, on his twitter, he justifies charging another 3 dollars because he "has the balls to do so." To me, thats not a good reason to screw over your whole user base. I couldn't even use my purchased version of Tweetie for a while and was forced to try other clients such as Simply Tweet and Twittelator pro because they were the first to offer support after the twitter crashes and 3.0. I don't think Loren offered enough updates on the "original" Tweetie to justify making us original users upgrade and pay again. This continues a bad precedent to the App store, that more developers will get greedy and start charging for updates that really should be included with the original purchase. There will be times when there are just so many things that can be done with an app that an "app recreation" is necessary. But, there should be a way for original users to pay only an upgrade fee instead of paying full price. Even Micro$oft does this.
The sad thing is I might end up getting Tweetie 2 if the reviews are good enough. But there is always going to be the thought in my head that, hey, he could do this again next year, and seeing that he justified it this time around because he "had the balls" to do so, means that he probably will. So all you that said you will definitely upgrade, will you say the same thing next year when he does the same thing, and only offers maybe 2 incremental updates over that period of time?
The offending tweet, from @atebits: @maddox Thanks man, hope it goes over well (everybody who's used it thinks it's *more* than worth it). me == balls++; // hope this works
Reply from: Tweetie 2.0 will be a $2.99 paid upgrade. It's about time someone has done this. A totally fair price for a practically full rewrite.
How is this greedy? The developer clearly spent a lot of resources in developing a new version and deserves to paid for such work. It isn't his fault Apple doesn't provide an upgrade app option. Because Apple doesn't provide this, he is suppose to give his work away for free? Wow. The arrogance of iPhone users is starting to be pretty apparent.
Tweetie 2.0 for iPhone is an update to the current Tweetie, but since it is basically completely new, the update will be full price.
I've always thought Tweetie was very overrated. It hasnt been updated in months, and apps like Endofon & SimplyTweet are way ahead of it! Now he's asking users to pay twice...not cool.
Greedy?
You want loren to continue working hard for FREE to add new features till the end of time just cause you paid 3$?
you guys are un-****in-believable.
While charging again may seem kind of low. Apparently they added tons of new features, that make it sort of different from the original version. With the basic information I have about users that frequent the app store, I would charge more money as well. People that bought the first one, will be buying the second one also.
I really like SimplyTweet but might have to buy Tweetie 2.0 when its released because it looks real slick
Apple sat on the twitpocalypse fix for a good 2-3 weeks before finally approving. I hardly believe Loren should be blamed for that.
Its 3 dollars for an effing iPhone app. God, its people like you who are to blame for the state of our economy, wasting money. I don't buy Starbucks coffee daily like most people, I save my money. I'm in law school, and I know the value of a dollar, unlike all you teenie boppers who waste money left and right. "Ooooh I need to spend more of mommy and daddys money, 500 dollars on ANOTHER new ipod or iphone because the one I bought last year sucks now." Really? And then spending 3 dollars TWICE...FOR THE SAME DAMN APP?!? If you're really intent on throwing away your money, i'll take it.
Anyone that is developing apps for the iPhone expecting to make a living that way SHOULD be disappointed. Theres no way you should make a living selling these apps for this platform. Its an on the side business AT BEST. You zombies make me laugh.
When anyone buys software for any platform, they should expect that that software will continue to be supported. The LEAST he could have done was offer owners of 1.0 a discount, send them all back 2 bucks each. Or make it cheaper for a day.
Just makes me laugh how you all are ready to waste "hard earned" money...even though the bulk of you spending it probably didn't earn it.
Yet he gladly took their awards. Its not like he included anything else in the upgrades, not even tested on 3.0. Shows he didn't care about being ready for either event.
This forum is filled with spoiled rotten little brats. Don't like what he's charging for it, don't buy it. It's pretty simple. I'll buy it as soon as it's released. You can go buy some other Twitter app. If you bought Tweetie at $2.99 already, and then you bought some other app, most of which are $4.99, you've already "wasted" more money than you would have had you just bought the new app. And really, Tweetie hasn't needed a bunch of major updates, because to me, for what I use it for, its still the best one out there WITHOUT numerous updates.
And to the person saying you don't waste your money and you value a buck, blah blah blah, oh stop. I've got plenty of money myself, none of which came from "mommy and daddy." I buy mac products and I am a frequent customer of the App Store. It's not making me go broke. And I did terrible in economics when I went to school, but even I can tell you that if you think me buying things is BAD for the economy, then you probably should have paid a little more attention in that class.
But in the end it's pretty easy. Don't like it, don't buy it. I buy new versions of software all the time, for a lot more money than $2.99. I suppose if you have Adobe Creative Suite, you feel you're obligated to receive CS2, CS3, CS4 for free too. It's the self-righteous, I deserve everything, you deserve nothing, me, me, me people that are destroying our economy, not the people buying a $2.99 app. Think before you speak...or type.
And to the person saying you don't waste your money and you value a buck, blah blah blah, oh stop. I've got plenty of money myself, none of which came from "mommy and daddy." I buy mac products and I am a frequent customer of the App Store. It's not making me go broke. And I did terrible in economics when I went to school, but even I can tell you that if you think me buying things is BAD for the economy, then you probably should have paid a little more attention in that class.
But in the end it's pretty easy. Don't like it, don't buy it. I buy new versions of software all the time, for a lot more money than $2.99. I suppose if you have Adobe Creative Suite, you feel you're obligated to receive CS2, CS3, CS4 for free too. It's the self-righteous, I deserve everything, you deserve nothing, me, me, me people that are destroying our economy, not the people buying a $2.99 app. Think before you speak...or type.
I had to spend money for Twittelator because Tweetie didn't work when upgrading to 3.0. In fact, Tweetie's description doesn't say it is 3.0 ready at all. I think everyone deserves an app that actually works. Its still broken, mostly due to his lack of updates.
So I guess i'll email him and demand a refund and report the app to Apple.
If you pay for something, you expect it to work or at least the seller to do his or her best to please the customer. Warranty of merchantability, if you sell something you are obligated to stand behind your product. As for the other companies who update their products, such as Microsoft and Adobe, they have UPGRADE prices, rather than making everyone pay full price for the same thing. Even Apple has upgrade prices for certain apps. Take your own advice, think before you type. The overall point is if you sell something, you should be forced to stand by your product, and not be able to abandon your customer base.
Clearly i'm not the only one ticked off by this. This is from Loren's own web site. http://getsatisfaction.com/atebits/topics/tweetie_2_should_be_a_free_upgrade
http://getsatisfaction.com/atebits/topics/purchasing_obselecence
http://getsatisfaction.com/atebits/topics/purchasing_obselecence
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Maybe he should just make it ad supported and free for everyone!!
It's $3. Get over it people.
Maybe he should just make it ad supported and free for everyone!!
It's $3. Get over it people.
If that were the case, then the developer community for the iPhone would fall apart. If there were no way to monetize apps on the iPhone, why would these companies throw resources into it? They wouldn't and the amount of innovation on the iPhone would not exist like it does today.
I'm not being sarcastic but at what point do you believe that a developer has the right to charge an upgrade price for an app? So far I have heard people also compalin about the Simplify Music app. I don't see anyone complain when Apple charges $80 every year for minor updates to iWork and iLife. Adobe release minor updates in their latest release of CS and charges hundreds of dollars.
I'm not saying that it's always right for the developer to charge an upgrade price. For example there is very little reason for Agile to charge the price it does for 1Password Pro when it currently only offers a minor upgrade on what was a free app. It is supposed to have more features in the future but the price is supposed to go up as well.
Loren completely rewrote the app from the ground up (not just added features) and the pool is not infinite for the number of people willing to purchase a Twitter app in the App Store.
I use Tweetie daily on 3.1, and it works great. The only issues I've had for it have been issues every other Twitter app had as well. They've all been fixed bthe only issue I have with Tweetie right now is no push (have boxcar for that, but Tweetie 2 will fix that) and the fact that photos don't rotate into landscape like they do in Echofon. Neither of those are bugs. Everything else works fine on my 3GS. So I'm not sure which problems you're speaking of. I'm a journalist and use Tweetie/Twitter constantly all day long. No issues here, and for my uses it's miles ahead of any other Twitter app in it's current form.
The VAST majority of software for desktop computers charges for every year's new version. Usually something between $20 and $300 depending on the software.
And I see people here complaining about a $3 upgrade? Are you frick'n kidding me? Are you all still running iLife 2? Photoshop 6?
Geez...
And oh, yes, iPhone developers are allowed to make money in 2009 but then never again. Yeah, that'll keep them working on updates forever.
Some of you people are unbelievable.
And I see people here complaining about a $3 upgrade? Are you frick'n kidding me? Are you all still running iLife 2? Photoshop 6?
Geez...
And oh, yes, iPhone developers are allowed to make money in 2009 but then never again. Yeah, that'll keep them working on updates forever.
Some of you people are unbelievable.um... wow everyone is having a heart attack over a twitter app? get a life people.. seriously.
im sure some of you will attempt to bad mouth me because im calling you out on your lameness, go tweet about it maybe someone will care, its unlikely but you never know.
im sure some of you will attempt to bad mouth me because im calling you out on your lameness, go tweet about it maybe someone will care, its unlikely but you never know.
Grow up. The whole lot of you. I'm deadly serious. This guy spent months re-writing the app from the ground up, quit his job to do so and you guys expect him to give it away? I suppose you expect every new version of iLife or OSX to be a free upgrade too? Thought not.
It's $3. Three freaking bucks. A coffee. Less than a trip to the cinema. That wouldn't even buy you a McDonalds.
I'm glad Loren did this, and I'm more than happy to pay. I use Tweetie multiple times a day, and would be willing to pay a whole lot more for it than the price of a coffee.
The sheer stupidity, miserliness and ignorance in these whiners is astounding. If you have the time to complain about a $3 upgrade to a piece of software you use daily you are either an ignoramus or are destitute. Take your pick.
It's $3. Three freaking bucks. A coffee. Less than a trip to the cinema. That wouldn't even buy you a McDonalds.
I'm glad Loren did this, and I'm more than happy to pay. I use Tweetie multiple times a day, and would be willing to pay a whole lot more for it than the price of a coffee.
The sheer stupidity, miserliness and ignorance in these whiners is astounding. If you have the time to complain about a $3 upgrade to a piece of software you use daily you are either an ignoramus or are destitute. Take your pick.