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MacTruck

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The macbook pro really should have had a new design. Keeping the look of the old tired G4 was NOT a good idea.

Badass specs on the macbook pro though.
 

jmsait19

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MacTruck said:
The macbook pro really should have had a new design. Keeping the look of the old tired G4 was NOT a good idea.

Badass specs on the macbook pro though.

I agree... I was totally hoping for a great new design, or at least something thinner. Its an entirely different beast from the PowerBooks, so needs an entirely different look.
 

adk

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jmsait19 said:
I agree... I was totally hoping for a great new design, or at least something thinner. Its an entirely different beast from the PowerBooks, so needs an entirely different look.


What's entirely different about it besides the dual core?
 

MacTruck

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adk said:
What's entirely different about it besides the dual core?

Let's see:

- Brighter screen
- Different Resolution
- Camera
- PCI express slot
- PCI Express graphics
- New graphics card
- Different ram
- DIfferent front side bus
- Different OS
- Different latch
- Different Hard Drives SATA
- Infrared Sensor and remote


Same case design.

That said. Anyone want to buy my powerbook? Its for sale.
 

MacTruck

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It needs a new design. Here is what I would like to see.


- Removable hard drives. With this intel cpu I can install xp on a seperate hard drive and swap them when I need to. I must have I think.

- Removable Superdrive. Let me have accessories like another battery, another hard drive or the option to upgrade my superdrive later.

- A FREAKING DOCK CONNECTOR!

- Something more rugged than this cheap aluminum that bends if you look at it wrong.

- A TWO BUTTON TOUCHPAD PLEASE!

- A power button on the outside of the case so I can power it on when hooked up to a monitor without having to open the damn lid.

- Dual DVI ports so I can use 2 monitors. The video card supports it so why not?



Am I wrong folks?
 

MrSugar

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MacTruck said:
It needs a new design. Here is what I would like to see.


- Removable hard drives. With this intel cpu I can install xp on a seperate hard drive and swap them when I need to. I must have I think.

- Removable Superdrive. Let me have accessories like another battery, another hard drive or the option to upgrade my superdrive later.

- A FREAKING DOCK CONNECTOR!

- Something more rugged than this cheap aluminum that bends if you look at it wrong.

- A TWO BUTTON TOUCHPAD PLEASE!

- A power button on the outside of the case so I can power it on when hooked up to a monitor without having to open the damn lid.

- Dual DVI ports so I can use 2 monitors. The video card supports it so why not?



Am I wrong folks?

All very valid points, well said.
 

ozone

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Personally, I really like the look of the current PBs - very sleek, and I pretty much work exclusively on the PC side of things. I find Sony - which is probably the closest to Apple from the Windows side - to be, well, odd looking many times. Everything's great, except for one thing. A lot of the PC makers seem to have funny ideas of colour, design aesthetic, etc. Fujitsu, however, does put out some really cool looking smaller notebooks.

That being said, I agree with MacTruk... Apple could have done other things to increase the modularity of the MB Pro. My HP tablet allows me to easily swap out the hard drive, change the ram, connect to a dock, etc. And almost all of it is on the bottom anyways where you can't see the connections and tabs anyways.

If Apple wants to be a bit more business friendly, easier upgradability is key, especially since many PC users like me will not be restricted to Apple specific hardware anymore.
 

Flowbee

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ozone said:
That being said, I agree with MacTruk... Apple could have done other things to increase the modularity of the MB Pro. My HP tablet allows me to easily swap out the hard drive, change the ram, connect to a dock, etc. And almost all of it is on the bottom anyways where you can't see the connections and tabs anyways.

Is it 1 inch thick?
 

bousozoku

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MacTruck said:
Let's see:

- Brighter screen
- Different Resolution
- Camera
- PCI express slot
- PCI Express graphics
- New graphics card
- Different ram
- DIfferent front side bus
- Different OS
- Different latch
- Different Hard Drives SATA
- Infrared Sensor and remote


Same case design.

That said. Anyone want to buy my powerbook? Its for sale.

It's a similar case design, but not the same obviously. You can't exactly shove a bigger display into the same case.

I don't see the look as tired at all. It's quite good compared to all of the others out in the market place.
 

Counterfit

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MacTruck said:
It needs a new design. Here is what I would like to see.


- Removable hard drives. With this intel cpu I can install xp on a seperate hard drive and swap them when I need to. I must have I think.

- Removable Superdrive. Let me have accessories like another battery, another hard drive or the option to upgrade my superdrive later.
Those all add weight and thickness.

- A FREAKING DOCK CONNECTOR!
http://www.bookendzdocks.com/

- Something more rugged than this cheap aluminum that bends if you look at it wrong.
"cheap aluminum" is an oxymoron. Also, it handles large drops better than polycarbonate or steel.
- A power button on the outside of the case so I can power it on when hooked up to a monitor without having to open the damn lid.
You should have the display open anyway to vent the heat.
- Dual DVI ports so I can use 2 monitors. The video card supports it so why not?
Probably because there'd be no place to put it.
 

Applespider

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I'd have liked to see a mini-drawing tablet; or a stylus so you can use the current touchpad as a tablet. Would be great if you had to work on fine detail etc and didn't want to lug a big one around.

I don't mind that it's the same design. It does still look pretty good; I'm just concerned about the loss of a FW port. I know it daisychains but when I'm importing video from the camcorder to an external drive, it's much easier to have the camcorder on the FW400 port and the hard drive on the FW800 one.
 

emaja

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MacTruck said:
It needs a new design. Here is what I would like to see.


- Removable hard drives. With this intel cpu I can install xp on a seperate hard drive and swap them when I need to. I must have I think.

- Removable Superdrive. Let me have accessories like another battery, another hard drive or the option to upgrade my superdrive later.

- A FREAKING DOCK CONNECTOR!

- Something more rugged than this cheap aluminum that bends if you look at it wrong.

- A TWO BUTTON TOUCHPAD PLEASE!

- A power button on the outside of the case so I can power it on when hooked up to a monitor without having to open the damn lid.

- Dual DVI ports so I can use 2 monitors. The video card supports it so why not?



Am I wrong folks?

You guys finally get your PB updates, it is not even shipping yet, and you already have a list of complaints about what it does not have.

I guess I should have expected that...
 

BearRanger

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There's a lot to like about the new MacBook Pro. But it seems like it's a transitional product. For the first Intel laptop it looks pretty darned good to me. It's not everything I'd like, but it's more than good enough.

There's no proof yet, but if Apple did just use an Intel motherboard this is perhaps the best that could be expected. That probably also explains the lack of Firewire 800, as others have pointed out. Using an Intel motherboard allowed Apple to get to market at the same time as other laptop vendors.

What will we see if Apple has the time to design its own board around an Intel chipset? That's what I'm looking forward to seeing.

New MacBook Pro the first Tuesday in June.
:D
 

dotdotdot

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The new MacBook Pro looks like the PowerBook G4 but its the little things that mean they changed it.

First, it is thinner than the G4. Which makes it look better.

Second, it has an IR reciever and iSight, along with bigger screen and new power adapter, as well as different interior and better specs.
 

Marky_Mark

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Counterfit said:
"cheap aluminum" is an oxymoron. Also, it handles large drops better than polycarbonate or steel.

Eh? Powerbooks bend and dent, iBooks bounce harmlessly. ;)
 

Malfoy

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How much you 2 sellers looking to get for your powerbooks? (This is a feeler post)

And a new case would have only been cool had it been black or carbon fiber. With that said, I'm glad they kept the same case, but wish they had another mouse button.
 

-Escher-

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Why they are so stubborn and keep with this single button mouse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why not 3 or 4?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
 

GimmeSlack12

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Am I the only one that thinks the case looks darker? Looking at pictures of the MacBook on the AppleStore gives the view in a lighter area than the apple.com pictures.

It definitely looks darker than the PowerBook.
 

jono_3

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i think the g4 pb design is excellent. but who knows - maybe the mbp is the ibook replacement and we still have another pb replacement to go.:rolleyes:
 

Spectrum

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The problem is not that there isn't a second (or third, or fourth) mouse button, but the fact that even OSX requires a second (or third, or fourth) button for some actions.

IMO, it's the OS that needs streamlining, not the computer that needs "enhancing".

-Escher- said:
Why they are so stubborn and keep with this single button mouse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why not 3 or 4?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
 

Str8edgepunker

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-Escher- said:
Why they are so stubborn and keep with this single button mouse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why not 3 or 4?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Umm....

http://www.apple.com/mightymouse/

Anyway, I'm happy that they kept the same design of the Macbook Pro. I mean there are tons of changes under the hood such that people might get scared if it looks completely different than before.
 

-Escher-

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Str8edgepunker said:
Umm....

http://www.apple.com/mightymouse/

Anyway, I'm happy that they kept the same design of the Macbook Pro. I mean there are tons of changes under the hood such that people might get scared if it looks completely different than before.

Mousepad...would be great to see it as a MOUSEPAD!
And besides: I though they would be releasing a wireless mighty mouse at MWSF!!! I can't imagine miself using even a desktop with a wired mouse!!
 

Mechcozmo

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Applespider said:
I don't mind that it's the same design. It does still look pretty good; I'm just concerned about the loss of a FW port. I know it daisychains but when I'm importing video from the camcorder to an external drive, it's much easier to have the camcorder on the FW400 port and the hard drive on the FW800 one.

I agree on everything you say. I'd like to have seen a FW800 port remain... or at least replace it with a FW400 port!

-Escher- said:
Why they are so stubborn and keep with this single button mouse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why not 3 or 4?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Those don't fit on laptops. And it is Apple philosophy. And iScroll 2 kicksass.

Spectrum said:
The problem is not that there isn't a second (or third, or fourth) mouse button, but the fact that even OSX requires a second (or third, or fourth) button for some actions.

IMO, it's the OS that needs streamlining, not the computer that needs "enhancing".
What does OS X require a second mouse button for? I've never needed to use one... and Apple's interface guidelines state that everything should be accessible to one button ONLY.
 

emaja

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Mechcozmo said:
Apple's interface guidelines state that everything should be accessible to one button ONLY.

And Apple always strictly follows its own guidelines, right? The general GUI is rife with examples of Apple bending its own rules.
 
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