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UNFAIR Comparison?

aevan said:
OP, this is just ridiculous. You're comparing two different devices intended for different things.

First of all, people come to this forum and think that if something is better for them, it's a "better buy".

Second, I could make a different comparison, based on my needs. In fact, I will - here:

iPad Pro -------- HP Envy
Best device for illustration -------- No illustration capabilities
One of the fastest computing experiences on the market -------- Average performance
HDR capable, industry leading 600 nit display -------- Low 310 nit brighness, no HDR
Wide color -------- No wide color
Great color accuracy -------- Bad color accuracy
120Hz -------- 60hz
Optimum hidpi resolution -------- Off the shelf 4K un-optimized screen
10h battery life -------- 5h battery life
Faster CPU -------- Slower CPU
Great Mac/iPhone complementary device -------- Not compatible with my other devices

These are just my needs, but they do show that HP Envy is FAR from a "much better buy". Don't let the 4K sticker fool you, it's screen is much worse (in fact, just shows how HP is using off the shelf parts, unlike, say, Microsoft who actually invested in a proper custom-resolution, optimized screen on their Surface devices)

If you need a LAPTOP, a LAPTOP will be better than a TABLET and vice versa. But comparing them spec for spec is just wrong.

For some people, Envy is the better choice. Perfectly fine. If you think it will better serve your needs, go get it and enjoy it, it seems fine. But coming here and claiming it's a better buy - you're just asking for someone to come and explain these things to you.
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Makes sense yet contradicts all those discussions claiming an iPad is a laptop replacement.
 
Relentless Power said:
Enjoy your HP Envy. Mean while, The iPad Pro runs circles around it in performance and iOS support. Take into consideration with Apples hardware standards and customer support in comparison to HP as well.
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lol, in what world is a ARM processes faster than a real i7 x86? Geekbench is **** for real world perfomance. it just tests crypto functions on the ARM gear. thats not real world performance, and shows heavy bias for ARM processors.
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throAU said:
not even much better spec.

the ipad will have faster wifi, 120hz screen, truetone, better battery, lighter, faster cpu most likely (it's faster than any dual core mobile intel part, not far off mobile i7 quads), faster SSD, etc.


not sure most people realise just how potent the current ipad pro SOC is...

for the software my ipad pro runs, it runs circles around my 2015 mbp 13 in terms of real world performance.
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drinking the coolaid i see . lol. its foolish to compare ARM to x86. Ipad is nice and smappy for a ARM but its no x86 processor.
 
DaniJoy said:
lol, in what world is a ARM processes faster than a real i7 x86? Geekbench is **** for real world perfomance. it just tests crypto functions on the ARM gear. thats not real world performance, and shows heavy bias for ARM processors.
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Thanks for your opinion. Geekbench isn't even being discussed and it's not even relevant to what I stated. Straight performance, the A10X processor is trumps any tablet it in its path in terms of power. Period.
 
Relentless Power said:
Edit: Judging from your previous posts on here, your anti-iPad anything. You refute anything iPad related as it stands. Thanks for the discussion though.
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thats why i own two? lol

lol i just wish it worked better for my needs thats all..
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Relentless Power said:
Edit: Judging from your previous posts on here, your anti-iPad anything. You refute anything iPad related as it stands. Thanks for the discussion though.
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guess you didnt see the two years worth of drawings i have been posting?
 
DaniJoy said:
thats why i own two? lol

lol i just wish it worked better for my needs thats all..
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Yet, You own "Two iPads" that don't work for your needs and you come into an iPad forum and chastise other forum members for their decisions regarding why they prefer an iPad or force your opinions over another device. It would behoove you to be more constructive in proactive discussion WHY you believe otherwise the iPad doesn't work for your "Needs".
 
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eh? who did i chastise? your acting like i insulted your momma. lol

i own a lot of tablets.... im critical and honest about all of them on different forums.

ive had a poor user experience with iOS, Procreate, i wish the apple pencil was a better stylus and wish the ipad had better performance like some of my other tablets. I feel let down a bit by the latest refresh of the pro. there is so much hype surrounding this thing and im like wondering if we all even have the same tablet , lol
 
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Relentless Power said:
Yet, You own "Two iPads" that don't work for your needs and you come into an iPad forum and chastise other forum members for their decisions regarding why they prefer an iPad or force your opinions over another device. It would behoove you to be more constructive in proactive discussion WHY you believe otherwise the iPad doesn't work for your "Needs".
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Where is the "forcing" of opinion. Who died and made you moderator? It would "behoove" you to allow people to assert opinions freely in a "proactive discussion".
 
rowspaxe said:
Where is the "forcing" of opinion. Who died and made you moderator? It would "behoove" you to allow people to assert opinions freely in a "proactive discussion".
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Allow me to reiterate. Forcing an opinion is when somebody subjects something to someone else and doesn't want accept what someone else has to say in return. It's blatantly evident and No-One restricted that individual for making opinions, as I already stated, their subjected opinions otherwise from previous posts/threads indicate myopic One side arguments against the iPad, without seeing others view points on similarities or differences by noting other forum members points as "Foolish." It's Not a one-sided discussion and it certainly doesn't aid when someone calls others "Kool-Aid" drinkers for other points addressed with the iPad. If You consider that proactive discussion, then I suggest you re-visit the beginning of this thread for more literal iPad/tablet comparisons, as it might make more sense to you.
 
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DaniJoy said:
lol, in what world is a ARM processes faster than a real i7 x86? Geekbench is **** for real world perfomance. it just tests crypto functions on the ARM gear. thats not real world performance, and shows heavy bias for ARM processors.
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drinking the coolaid i see . lol. its foolish to compare ARM to x86. Ipad is nice and smappy for a ARM but its no x86 processor.
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i have both a macbook pro 13, and a desktop xeon e3-1231v3 with 32 GB of ram and a samsung 850 evo.

the ipad pro holds its own.

you can call it drinking the cool aid, but fact is, for actually getting things done, if they are available on ios the ipad just smokes.
 
Relentless Power said:
Addressing your #1 In your Post:

I think it's completely undermined when somebody chooses to purchase a high-end electronic product that cost a large sum of money, that you're not also purchasing their product, you're purchasing the customer service along with it. What does that tell somebody when you purchase a product and the company that's behind the product, is difficult to work with and are not customer savvy with relational skills or rectifying hardware issues?

I Can't stress enough how Apple not also makes a great product as we all know, but truly has the best customer service that will stand behind their product when need be and when it comes a time when we have problems with a product when we least expect it, I want to know that the company I purchased it from is going to assist with the issue quickly and efficiently.
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The way you phrased that I'm unsure if you agreed or if you think my comment was bollocks. lol ;)

Kallum.
 
Kal-037 said:
The way you phrased that I'm unsure if you agreed or if you think my comment was bollocks. lol ;)

Kallum.
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I wasn't disagreeing with you. I was simply stating that when you purchase a product, you're not just purchasing the product by itself, you're purchasing the customer service to stand behind the product.
 
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I have an huge Numbers Spreadsheet.
And to be honest, the iPad Pro calculates the sheet even quicker than my old macbook pro i7 from 2011.
Maybe this is due to better software optimization. I don't know.
 
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