iPad Pro **Update: M4 iPad Pro fixed the problem** I was wrong .... iPad sucks ... worst Apple device by far.

[Zest28]

I was checking the battery health of my 13" M2 MacBook Air, 16" M1 Max MacBook Pro and the M1 12.9 iPad Pro.

Both the MBA and MBP still have 100% battery health, while the battery of the M1 12.9 iPad Pro already need servicing. How awesome is that?

The difference is, with the M1 12.9 iPad Pro, you cannot change the changing behavior of the device, which you can do on Mac OS.

I guess I will pay for the battery replacement, but this is a major problem of the iPad Pro. Probably won't buy an other iPad anymore if the battery on these devices degrade so badly as you don't have the ability to customise the charging behaviour.

edit: It seems the new M4 iPad Pro fixed the problem.

 

[fwmireault]

you are quick to generalize. i have an M1 ipad pro since launch day and my battery still rocks. maybe you just have a defective battery.

 

[MagicHAM]

Probably need more explanation of the battery degradation you mentioned. Very emotional post, based on limited experience with the iPad Pro M1.

 

[Zest28]

Probably need more explanation of the battery degradation you mentioned. Very emotional post, based on limited experience with the iPad Pro M1.

It's not an emotional post. These are the facts:
- 16" M1 Max MacBook Pro = 100% battery health
- 13" M2 MacBook Air = 100% battery health
- 12.9 M1 iPad Pro = below 80% battery health

And the reason for this, is that Apple doesn't allow you to manage the charging behavior of the device, like what you can do on Mac.

The iPad Pro really sucks with the way it destroys batteries due to limitations Apple has put in place.

 

[Zest28]

you are quick to generalize. i have an M1 ipad pro since launch day and my battery still rocks. maybe you just have a defective battery.

That is what I thought too, until I checked up on the battery health. And if you think the battery rocks, just wait till you try the 13" M2 MacBook Air, which can get more than 15+ hours of real battery life.

 

[dmr727]

It's not an emotional post. These are the facts:
- 16" M1 Max MacBook Pro = 100% battery health
- 13" M2 MacBook Air = 100% battery health
- 12.9 M1 iPad Pro = below 80% battery health

Those are your facts. And using them to proclaim the iPad as Apple's worse device by far is most definitely emotional.

 

[Zest28]

Those are your facts. And using them to proclaim the iPad as Apple's worse device by far is most definitely emotional.

My facts? Tell me, how can I change the charging behavior on the iPad?

You want to dispute "my facts"?

In the end, the iPad is just a big iPhone and the 13" M2 MacBook Air destroys this thing while being cheaper. It's really Apple their worst device in their entire line up.

The iPad has so many limitations, that it even destroyed my battery.

 

[dmr727]

My facts? Tell me, how can I change the charging behavior on the iPad?

You want to dispute "my facts"?

Those battery health figures aren't the same as mine. It's just one data point, and you're using it to make a clickbait thread. Hey, it's fine to be emotional - you're certainly one of the more emotional posters on MR - but let's not pretend otherwise.

 

[Ethosik]

It's not an emotional post. These are the facts:
- 16" M1 Max MacBook Pro = 100% battery health
- 13" M2 MacBook Air = 100% battery health
- 12.9 M1 iPad Pro = below 80% battery health

And the reason for this, is that Apple doesn't allow you to manage the charging behavior of the device, like what you can do on Mac.

The iPad Pro really sucks with the way it destroys batteries due to limitations Apple has put in place.

You either just got your laptops, or barely use them. My 16" M1 Max MacBook Pro is at 87% and my M1 iPad Pro is at 91%. I don't use my iPad as much as my laptop. Both devices I purchased as soon as they were available.

 

[Zest28]

Those battery health figures aren't the same as mine. It's just one data point, and you're using it to make a clickbait thread. Hey, it's fine to be emotional - you're certainly one of the more emotional posters on MR - but let's not pretend otherwise.

You will never have the same battery health as on Mac, because you cannot customise the charging behaviour. That is a fact.

It's not about a "data point", it is about there is no way to manage the battery on the iPad, like you can do on Mac.

Can you show me where in iPadOS I can change the charging, if you claim it is "emotional" and not a fact?

 

[Zest28]

You either just got your laptops, or barely use them. My 16" M1 Max MacBook Pro is at 87% and my M1 iPad Pro is at 91%. I don't use my iPad as much as my laptop. Both devices I purchased as soon as they were available.

I use them alot, especially my 13" M2 MacBook Air gets used also a travel device. The reason why the battery on the M2 MacBook Air is still perfect because I have charging rules implemented in MacOS.

On the M1 12.9 iPad Pro, I cannot do this, which is why the battery health dropped so much in comparison to my M2 MacBook Air.

 

[bondr006]

Have had my M1 iPad Pro 11 for two years, and my battery is still rocking 94% health with Coconut Battery and gives me great multiple day battery life.

 

[fwmireault]

That is what I thought too, until I checked up on the battery health. And if you think the battery rocks, just wait till you try the 13" M2 MacBook Air, which can get more than 15+ hours of real battery life.

I have an M1 Pro MBP, great battery life too! The battery is larger and there is better heat dissipation on a MBP, so of course I expect battery life to be better. That doesn’t mean that the iPad Pro has a bad battery life.

 

[dmr727]

Can you show me where in iPadOS I can change the charging, if you claim it is "emotional" and not a fact?

What's emotional is your clickbait title to the thread. I actually agree that it'd be nice for iPadOS to give you the same level of battery control (heck, even let me know the health without digging through logs!) as other devices. That said, my 14 month old iPad's battery health is at 98%, so I'm not too butthurt about it.

 

[Ethosik]

I use them alot, especially my 13" M2 MacBook Air gets used also a travel device. The reason why the battery on the M2 MacBook Air is still perfect because I have charging rules implemented in MacOS.

On the M1 12.9 iPad Pro, I cannot do this, which is why the battery health dropped so much in comparison to my M2 MacBook Air.

There is no possible way you have a launch 16" M1 MacBook Pro still at 100% capacity. It would be more believable if it was at least 97%....but 100 I just don't believe those stats.

 

[Zest28]

I have an M1 Pro MBP, great battery life too! The battery is larger and there is better heat dissipation on a MBP, so of course I expect battery life to be better. That doesn’t mean that the iPad Pro has a bad battery life.

The issue that I am pointing out. There are so many limitations in place on the iPad, that even one of them will destroy your battery.

On Mac, there are no such limitations and I can change how the Mac charges the battery the way I see fit to protect the battery.

 

[Zest28]

There is no possible way you have a launch 16" M1 MacBook Pro still at 100% capacity. It would be more believable if it was at least 97%....but 100 I just don't believe those stats.

So Coconut Battery and Apple their own "System Report" are now being "emotional" too and their measurements are not facts?

 

[FeliApple]

Can you share a Coconut screenshot of the iPad?

 

[sparksd]

Worst for you, M1 12.9 great for me. Different opinions. You dislike it so much, why replace the battery?

 

[Zest28]

Anyway guys, have fun spending $$$$$ on these overpriced machines with so many artificial limitations and restrictions put in place by Apple.

MacBook Air > iPad Pro quite clearly for me now.

 

[Ethosik]

So Coconut Battery and Apple their own "System Report" are now being "emotional" too and their measurements are not facts?

I said nothing about the programs, but your usage patterns and questioning the age of the device. Where did those applications come from in the argument?

 

[Ethosik]

Any guys, have fun spending $$$$$ on these overpriced machines with so many artificial limitations and restrictions put in place by Apple.

MacBook Air > iPad Pro quite clearly for me now.

This is why people are saying this is an emotional post. Our products are obviously not showing the same stats as yours. So it can't be the iPad being inherently the issue. Otherwise we would all have this issue.

 

[antiprotest]

There is no possible way you have a launch 16" M1 MacBook Pro still at 100% capacity. It would be more believable if it was at least 97%....but 100 I just don't believe those stats.

My M1 Macbook Air is still at 100%. It is certainly possible.

I concede this is probably because:

1. I mostly use it as a desktop on optimized charing so it stays at 80% charged most of the time.

2. As has been reported before, the starting battery capacity varies by device, and the % is not exact, with some units probably starting at something like 101-104%.

Coconut might be more precise but I'm not going to bother doing that.

 

[darngooddesign]

According to iMazing my 2 year old M1 13" iPP is at 84% after 314 cycles while according to System Information my 1 1/2 year old 16" M1-Pro MBP is at 91% after 354 cycles. Neither requires servicing. Not really worried about it.

 

[Ethosik]

My M1 Macbook Air is still at 100%. It is certainly possible.

I concede this is probably because:

1. I mostly use it as a desktop on optimized charing so it stays at 80% charged most of the time.

2. As has been reported before, the starting battery capacity varies by device, and the % is not exact, with some units probably starting at something like 101-104%.

Coconut might be more precise but I'm not going to bother doing that.

This is what I do as well. It's mostly plugged in at 80%. Again, you all must not be driving your Macs quite hard to maintain this level of battery and are driving the iPad harder to get it worse. My MacBook Pro is constantly exporting videos so even while plugged in maintaining 80% battery most of the time, I still have around 87% battery capacity. Heat affects batteries, which exporting a lot of videos produces a lot of heat.