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CraigJDuffy

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Hey everyone. I just purchased an M1 MacBook Pro 14” (upgraded to 1T SSD) that should be arriving today — I know that newer models are coming out in the next few weeks, but i really need to be able to rely on a personal computer asap (versus my current setup of an iPad Pro and company-issued computer that I can’t really use for well… anything personal).

I think I just need a sound board here:

I work in digital marketing and freelance on various projects outside of my company, so I feel like this computer is overkill as it is for me, but just want to make sure we’re all on the same page that this new M2 version isn’t going to completely re-invent the wheel. Especially someone who really just uses the web, multiple emails, and Adobe InDesign and Photoshop here and there.

I don’t want to have an issue of buyers remorse later on, and I guess I could always return this one once the announcement is made if I’m feeling that passionate about it, but figure this is a case of just wanting to have the latest and greatest for little reason lol. Thanks!
Given the new machines come out next week(probably) I think you’d be crazy to keep it rather than just return it and get the better model next week / get your current model for cheaper.

But that’s just my 2 cents.
 

maflynn

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but it's unlikely to be a major re-design or astounding new capabilities, just incrementally faster CPU and graphics.
Its a virtual lock that we'll not see a re-design. Apple rarely rolls out a new design as they had with the M1, and then change things up the following year.

The only changes we'll see (other then a price increase) is the use of the M2, imo
 

Zest28

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If I were you, buy the 14" MBP right now. You can buy these for $1599. The M2 14" MBP isn't worth the extra amount of money. That is because the M2 chips behave as an overclocked M1. More power for more energy and heat, something that you could have gotten for free with simple overclocking if Apple allowed it.

The $1599 14" MBP is probably the best value Apple laptop there has ever been.
 
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london_apple

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If I were you, buy the 14" MBP right now. You can buy these for $1599. The M2 14" MBP isn't worth the extra amount of money. That is because the M2 chips behave as an overclocked M1. More power for more energy and heat, something that you could have gotten for free with simple overclocking if Apple allowed it.

The $1599 14" MBP is probably the best value Apple laptop there has ever been.
This makes sense! I definitely agree that it wouldn’t be worth the extra money. Appreciate it!
 

london_apple

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Few thoughts:
I get your anxiety. Buyer's remorse sucks. And having the latest and greatest is fun.

The MBP M1P is a powerful machine. I have the base model and love it. Zero chance I would upgrade to M2 Pro. Current machine works perfectly for me in that regard - if I wanted to swap out it would likely be for M2 MBA (different story)

I don't believe the M2 Pro update for the MBP 14 is going to be very compelling. For sure it will be better but feels likely to be incremental. Same chassis, ports, etc. My guess - speed boost and *maybe* better battery life plus not much else

Finally - I'm also beginning to wonder if it's coming in a couple of weeks. I am suspicious we won't see shipments until next year. But I could be wrong!
That last part… I was thinking that to myself too. I might not even get my hands on it until (if I’m lucky) Christmas time. And I definitely need it sooner rather than later, I’ve been weighing the pros and cons for some time!
 

jdb8167

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... the M2 chips behave as an overclocked M1. More power for more energy and heat ...
The M2 is an overclocked M1 is a myth. By that definition, all new CPUs are just overclocked versions of the previous generation. The M2 uses a new node process (TSMC N5P) compared to the M1 (TSMC N5) and has architectural changes for the performance (avalanche), efficiency (blizzard), and GPU cores. Overclocking would imply that only the clock rates have changed which is not the case. The max clock on the M2 performance CPU went from 3.2 GHz to 3.49 GHz a 9% improvement but various benchmarks put the CPU single-core performance improvements at about 12%. So for just the performance cores alone show more than just a clock upgrade. The efficiency cores and GPUs do even better.
 

Gudi

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The M2 is an overclocked M1 is a myth. By that definition, all new CPUs are just overclocked versions of the previous generation.
Nope, some have the exact same clock speed as the previous generation and generate their performance increase with a new chip layout, a new instruction set or a process node shrink, making room for billions more transistors and additional cores.

The M2 is indeed higher clocked than the M1, which is responsible for a good portion of its performance gains.
 

DeejayDannyJ

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Your workload is perfect for a M1 family. You may have saved a little money by waiting but then again you may not have, get what you need now.

M2 vs M1 is not going to make that much of a difference in real world and the M1's ain't going anywhere fast in terms of support.

Remember forums are full of people who care about benchmarks, the latest and greatest and showing off specs in forums signatures, advice is best taken with a grain of salt..
 

1BadManVan

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Did you get the m1 pro on sale? I know the base spec has been on sale lots lately. Overall, I wouldn't worry about the m2 if you're saying this current one is already overkill for your needs, this will last you years as is.
 

boak

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Given the new machines come out next week(probably) I think you’d be crazy to keep it rather than just return it and get the better model next week / get your current model for cheaper.

But that’s just my 2 cents.
I'm assuming OP is from the UK, which means the updated model will have a higher price.
 

conmee

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If not having a MacBook Pro until the M2 shows up will cost you money... not simply an inconvenience, but actually impact your ability to bill top dollar as a freelancer, then you keep the M1 as it is essential to your livelihood. But if you won't earn any more/less money from your efforts between now and the M2 release, then wait it out and deal with the iPad Pro setup you have for a bit longer. Simply from a psychological standpoint, do you want to live with an M1 for the duration of the M2 era always wondering, or worse, you end up selling M1 at a loss to fund an M2 six months from now when you can no longer handle the nagging/lingering doubt and fomo? Bottom line: unless you're getting a sweet discount on the M1 that assuages the doubt/fomo or lack of M1 materially impacts your immediate earnings, return it.
 

joehohoho

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I bought a 14 MBP about a month ago with the same thoughts. In the end the need for it sooner rather than later as well as knowing the M1 Pro is overkill for me anyway was enough to make jump sooner. That and a good online deal!

Anyway it seems the new 14's are basically just going to get the M2 spec boost, there's no expectations of anything new to the design seeing as the M1 is the 1st generation itself so likely wont change for a good number of years yet.

In all honesty doubt you will regret your M1, it's such a capable device and will remain so even when the M2, M3 etc come out...
 

colinsky

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A couple times, I've been triggered to buy when Apple released a new product. I needed a laptop; when the 2016 13" MacBook Pro was released, I saw lots of early bitching about the keyboard and so I bought a Late 2015 model.

I was itching to get an m1 Mac but I wanted to get a 27" iMac. When the m1 iMac was released it was not what I wanted and I bought a 16/512 m1 Mini and an LG Ultrafine and made my own 27" m1 iMac.
 

jdb8167

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Nope, some have the exact same clock speed as the previous generation and generate their performance increase with a new chip layout, a new instruction set or a process node shrink, making room for billions more transistors and additional cores.

The M2 is indeed higher clocked than the M1, which is responsible for a good portion of its performance gains.
None of that makes the M2 a n overclocked M1. Many times a new process node gives the ability to reach higher clocks. Many times a new architecture will allow for a clock boost.

Much of the M2 performance enhancements came from boosting the clocks but that in no way implies that it is an overclocked M1. And yet the M2 clearly gets gains outside of higher clock rates as well.
 

neinjohn

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If one is living outside the zones where a price hike is inevitable (aka outside Europe) the M2'' may be more substantial update for the 14'' and the 16'' than the Air, outside the re-design.

Assuming we are using the A15 cores, the P-cores are more or less the same. Nonetheless the E-cores have a wide improvement which may be visible on low-power mode and therefore longer battery.

On graphics side we are out of 7-graphics binning. The M2 Pro base model you get 2 "free" truly improved graphic cores and 4 on the full Pro. Different from the CPU side, more GPU cores will be used on most workloads.
 

maflynn

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If one is living outside the zones where a price hike is inevitable (aka outside Europe) the M2'' may be more substantial update for the 14'' and the 16'' than the Air, outside the re-design.
Think most markets will be seeing a price hike, we'll just see how much that hike will be. The EU (and some other markets) get hit the hardest.

As I've mentioned I don't see any sort of redesign, so its just a spec update. Not a bad update, don't get me wrong but if you're already on a M1 Pro or M1 Max, I don't think it will be worth going through the process of selling the M1 and buying an M2 but that's just me
 

4743913

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I don’t want to have an issue of buyers remorse later on

you won't if you buy what YOU need, not what everyone else flashes. Its always nice to have cutting edge but if it really doesn't do anything extra except save you a few secs, its not worth the time and cost to upgrade. I bought a new 2019 Macbook Pro 16 AFTER the M1 Macbook Pros were released. Why? because there was something that it could do that I wanted that the M1s cannot. Is it the newest? nope. Is it the fastest? nope. But it plays Elden Ring and my other PC games just fine and I gave up none of my macOS power.
 

Kazgarth

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Hey everyone. I just purchased an M1 MacBook Pro 14” (upgraded to 1T SSD) that should be arriving today — I know that newer models are coming out in the next few weeks, but i really need to be able to rely on a personal computer asap (versus my current setup of an iPad Pro and company-issued computer that I can’t really use for well… anything personal).

I think I just need a sound board here:

I work in digital marketing and freelance on various projects outside of my company, so I feel like this computer is overkill as it is for me, but just want to make sure we’re all on the same page that this new M2 version isn’t going to completely re-invent the wheel. Especially someone who really just uses the web, multiple emails, and Adobe InDesign and Photoshop here and there.

I don’t want to have an issue of buyers remorse later on, and I guess I could always return this one once the announcement is made if I’m feeling that passionate about it, but figure this is a case of just wanting to have the latest and greatest for little reason lol. Thanks!
You have 14-days to return it, you can do that if the new M2 releases within the return period.
 
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orionquest

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Meh you are overthinking this. Any computer within the past few years with suffice for your use case.

The problem now is future proofing your choice because Apple is all integrated. The tricky part of that isn't necessarily the processor but he storage. But it seems you've kinda address that with the larger SSD.

Enjoy your new computer, you can always get another one down the road, or when you really need another one, but for now you will be fine.
 
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The Cockney Rebel

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Hey everyone. I just purchased an M1 MacBook Pro 14” (upgraded to 1T SSD) that should be arriving today — I know that newer models are coming out in the next few weeks, but i really need to be able to rely on a personal computer asap (versus my current setup of an iPad Pro and company-issued computer that I can’t really use for well… anything personal).

I think I just need a sound board here:

I work in digital marketing and freelance on various projects outside of my company, so I feel like this computer is overkill as it is for me, but just want to make sure we’re all on the same page that this new M2 version isn’t going to completely re-invent the wheel. Especially someone who really just uses the web, multiple emails, and Adobe InDesign and Photoshop here and there.

I don’t want to have an issue of buyers remorse later on, and I guess I could always return this one once the announcement is made if I’m feeling that passionate about it, but figure this is a case of just wanting to have the latest and greatest for little reason lol. Thanks!
If you absolutely need it, then buy it.

Personally, I am waiting.
 
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