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iPod Upgrade to my iPod video to 256gb SSD

The adapter is from Tarkan, and the card is real because I had it almost full with FLAC at one time.

When. I try to turn it on, I get nothing on the display. When I plug in the charging cable, it displays briefly, then resets
 
XC-3730C said:
The adapter is from Tarkan, and the card is real because I had it almost full with FLAC at one time.

When. I try to turn it on, I get nothing on the display. When I plug in the charging cable, it displays briefly, then resets
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sounds like there's a problem with your power supply. did you change your battery to a new one ? you say when you turn it on there's no display but when you plug the power you're getting something. it looks like it's not getting enough power to run the ipod.
 
I have tried 2 different power supplies. When I plug my charger in, the battery life is fine, so am at a loss...
 
Ipod Collector said:
Thanks for this post diblon. Interestingly enough, after some great successes with the gen 5.5 80gb ipod, I've into the same problems with a 30gb 5.5. I'll give this a try - if it does not work with my 230gb library, I will have to assume the problem lies in the RAM size differential between the 30 and 80 gb models. At this point I have restored this 30gb (now 480gb) ipod about 10 times and still get the bright Apple logo, usually indicative of disk errors. However, when I remove the mSATA and put it in an enclosure, the Mac recognizes the mSATA as "ipod" just fine. I would appreciate any insight anyone can offer
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Hey there,

I was reading the last part of your quote about your problem
with the 30gb that you're running a 480gb in. I believe I know
what your problem is that you're having with it.

The main thing I think it's suffering from is called PCU (power consumption
loss). Basically speaking, when syncing ipod with itunes with a 480gb SSD
in it, that SSD uses a lot of juice. Do you have one of them older firewire
chargers ? If so, great, it'll be of great use for what you need to do.
You need to, 1, either buy a new usb sync cable like this one here:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/321633063896?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

It's got a 30 pin dock connector at one end with 2 cables that come
out of it, one usb and one firewire cable. When syncing, keep it plugged
up to firewire charger as this will supply ipod with continuous power needed
while writing to SSD. When using original battery or even the same sized
replacement battery in it is not supplying enough juice to sync correctly,
so in turn you end up with all the issues you're having now with it.

I've already learned this through trial and errors myself and both my
5.5g 256gb samsung ssd modded pod and my 7.5g 512gb work great
without any issues.

If you wanted to get a little more complex with it, you could get a big
1900mah battery such as this one here:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/high-capaci...371?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a49d11fd3

But you'd also need to upgrade the back plate and headphone jack in it.
You'd need the thick 5th gen 60 or 80gb back plate and the longer ribbon
cabled headphone jack to go with it.

Put it this way though, I have a 7.5g classic that I modded to a 256gb SSD,
with a thick back plate and that battery right there installed in it. I'm testing
how many hours I can get off of one complete charge on it right now.

I'm already over the 50 hour mark so far and the battery is finally down
to halfway. It's on track number 851 so far and still going strong. I'm hoping
it'll hit 100 hours off of 1 charge, that would simply be fantastic.

I plan on building some to sell on ebay, so figured I'd test it as much as
possible to give some good clean facts about it in my listing.

Here's some pics of it if you'd like to check it out, tell me what you think.

You can also check out my other thread I wrote about it here:

https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=20710381#post20710381

Also, if you have any questions feel free to ask and I'll help you out as
best as possible.

Main thing I believe you have going on is power consumption loss with it
though. I haven't really tested how well my 5.5g (64mb buffer mb) would work with a 512gb ssd yet, but I know it works perfect with a 256gb in it
using a 900mah battery. I get around 12 hours of play time off of 1 charge.
Nothing great, but good for what I need it for and much much better than
your typical 650mah battery that they normally have in them or usually get
replaced with. It's all about the power consumption that causes many of
the issues you'll get, especially when using SSD's in them and in your case
a big memory one at that. Each time you try to start up the SSD, it'll pull
upwards of 3 watts of juice to fire it up each time. It only takes around 1.5
continuous watts to actually "read' ssd once fired up.[/QUOTE]


I have a question and may be a little irrelevant but where abouts do you buy your 7.5g logic boards from?
and do you think an ipod 5.5g would work with a Samsung 840 EVO 500GB mSATA card? the link to the logic board is here >>>>(http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/iPod-Vide...183?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item5d57468df7)

Thanks in advance!
 
SlocusST said:
Hello, I had a question maybe I missed the answer but after updating the hard drive how do you get it to work on iTunes? I have a 30gb IPod video that I want to make 250 gb I was thinking of using this based off the thread:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00RQA6LFA/ref=dp_ob_neva_mobile?th=1&psc=1

Any advice?
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Actually, if you read this thread from the first page to the last, it will pretty much provide you with all the answers you need. Major suggestions: 1) get yourself a firewire/usb charger - one that has BOTH firewire and USB pigtails (available on ebay,) and 2) upgrade the battery. 3) get Tarkan's HDD adapters in what ever flavor you choose (but make sure you closely observe the photos people on this thread and on Tarkan's website have posted.) Seriously, the participants on this thread have done an outstanding job of documenting their experiences, mistakes and great successes. Well done all! Hope this helps.
 
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aycon said:
Actually, if you read this thread from the first page to the last, it will pretty much provide you with all the answers you need. Major suggestions: 1) get yourself a firewire/usb charger - one that has BOTH firewire and USB pigtails (available on ebay,) and 2) upgrade the battery. 3) get Tarkan's HDD adapters in what ever flavor you choose (but make sure you closely observe the photos people on this thread and on Tarkan's website have posted.) Seriously, the participants on this thread have done an outstanding job of documenting their experiences, mistakes and great successes. Well done all! Hope this helps.
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I did that and got it to work, my only issue now is I can't get the head phones to work. Works in my car because I go through a USB. Is this normal? I have tried replacing the headphone jack
 
SlocusST said:
I did that and got it to work, my only issue now is I can't get the head phones to work. Works in my car because I go through a USB. Is this normal? I have tried replacing the headphone jack
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Really sorry for the tardy reply - I've been traveling a bit - and I don't mind sharing i am doing so with my 480GB iPod 5.5!

Unfortunately I am probably not going to be a lot of help here, but it makes me think there may be a challenge with the cable connectors to the main board from the headphone jack cable. When attached through the USB, it is running through another set of audio channels through the USB/iPod connector. Silly question, but do you have the volume turned up or otherwise limited in the "Settings" portion of the menu? !s the click wheel functioning properly? Hopefully you got it fixed over the last three weeks and my questions are already non-issues. On the other hand, if the problem persists, you might have to find a new-used iPod 5.5 to mod anew. Best of luck - these things are sweet when done. I am currently using about 340GB of the 480 GB shown to be available.
 
Ipod Collector said:
Hey Aycon,

I read your message and what you explained.

This is just my 2 cents about what you got going on
and why the original 30gb 5th wouldn't be a good choice
to use such a big mem sized ssd. First, if you are just
using a stock (original sized) battery, it simply does not
offer enough oomph (current) for what it takes to fire
up that drive efficiently. Just firing up an ssd of that
memory size probably draws around 3 watts of power.
I don't know what the actual power consumption numbers
your ssd consists of, but I'm sure you can look up the
specs of it. It might use around 1.5 watts when reading
and 2-3 watts writing to it, depending on the speed it's
capable of writing at.

Also, 30gb 5th only has a 32mb on-board buffer, while the
60gb 5th and 80gb 5.5 sports a 64mb buffer, meaning that
just under normal playing conditions of the ipod, that the
5th board with 32mb buffer has to access the drive double
the time that the 5.5g board with 64mb has to, which in
turn leaves the drive very vulnerable to power loss corruption
(PLC).

You mentioned upgraded battery in your post. What is the
mAh of the battery ? 650mah, 850mah ?

Does your 5th 30gb work good, no bugs, with the 256gb ssd in it ?
If so, that is a good thing. I personally think with what I've stated
above that 256gb on the 30gb 5th board is pretty much the max
it's capable of sustaining, even though I'm sure your battery is
having to work pretty hard to keep powering up. Have you tested
battery life between the 2 ipods ? If not, try it out sometime.

Run the 256gb in the 30gb 5th board from a full charge, 2/3's volume
with headphones plugged in, and test it in hours how long from fully
charged until you notice the first reboot sequence when battery gets
too low to keep ssd powered on. Now do the same test on the 80gb
5.5g board and measure it in the same manner.

I have a 80gb 5.5g board with a samsung 128gb ssd and a 900mah
battery in it. I get around a total of 12 hours of play on one charge.
I actually use mine pretty much almost daily while at work, but I'm
actually using this ipod with a bluetooth adapter plugged into the
bottom dock, synced to a bose sounddock portable. Running ipod
with bluetooth adapter takes me down to around 7 hours on one
charge. Bluetooth sucks up some juice! But it works great !!

Ok, sorry so winded. If you have any questions, feel free to post
a reply or hit me up.
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[doublepost=1484624575][/doublepost]Ipod Collector,

I was just reading this thread. I have a 30 GB ipod video 5th generation. Is it worthwhile to upgrade this ipod at this point in time? Seems a shame to toss it (still works). Would be interested to hear what is possible. My music library is just over 10k songs. Am wondering if (upgraded), it could be used for songs or audiobooks.
 
JoBB said:
[doublepost=1484624575][/doublepost]Ipod Collector,

I was just reading this thread. I have a 30 GB ipod video 5th generation. Is it worthwhile to upgrade this ipod at this point in time? Seems a shame to toss it (still works). Would be interested to hear what is possible. My music library is just over 10k songs. Am wondering if (upgraded), it could be used for songs or audiobooks.
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Yes, I do think it is worth it, but you cannot go beyond 256 GB which will format out in the iPod OS to be somewhere around 238 GB. Read all of the posts on this particular Forum (and those recommended) before proceeding. If you choose to mod your iPod, I would highly suggest going with an SDCard and Tarkan's board for the SDCard. Why? The SDCard is much less expensive (recently) than the equivalent MSATA. When you have the iPod in pieces, it is a good time to upgrade to a higher capacity battery - again, refer to the posts and interactions on this forum. As well, make sure you have spare parts in case you get into trouble. For instance, it is VERY easy to damage ribbon cables, like the ones to the headphone jack and HOLD switch.....these cables are old and brittle due to heat in the iPod over time. As to audiobooks? I've never tried, but I am sure they could be synched with iTunes. Movies are not recommended for this mod.
 
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