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TimmeyCook

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Article here:
https://www.androidauthority.com/state-of-usb-type-c-870996/

Excerpt:
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It’s 2018 and USB Type-C is still a mess

USB Type-C was billed as the solution for all our future cable needs, unifying power and data delivery with display and audio connectivity, and ushering in an age of the one-size-fits-all cable. Unfortunately for those already invested in the USB Type-C ecosystem, which is anyone who has bought a flagship phone in the past couple of years, the standard has probably failed to live up to the promises.
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I found this article on the state of USB-C. What does everybody think?

That article pertains to Android devices.

What you expect?

Of course they are what they are.

Everybody does what better suits their interests on Android.
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Most people will not be using eGPU.

Most people use just a phone and don't own a computer.

Most people who own a computer, don't own any discrete GPU worth it's name.

Then what?
 

Michael Goff

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That article pertains to Android devices.

What you expect?

Of course they are what they are.

Everybody does what better suits their interests on Android.
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Most people use just a phone and don't own a computer.

Most people who own a computer, don't own any discrete GPU worth it's name.

Then what?

I was just arguing against the idea that it's somehow the manufacturers simply must upgrade everything to USB C. The connector can be useful, yes, but it's just something most people won't benefit from.
 

TimmeyCook

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I was just arguing against the idea that it's somehow the manufacturers simply must upgrade everything to USB C. The connector can be useful, yes, but it's just something most people won't benefit from.

For mac users, they can benefit from them.

We can connect external GPUs, and there are lot of comercial products that deliver.

We can surely power the laptops with USB-PD cables, and they don't need to be from Apple (unlike the Android/PC problem where you need a cable from the brand name in many cases).

There's DisplayPort over USB-C in every Mac. And, I think, HDMI over USB-C too.

Etc.
 
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For mac users, they can benefit from them.

We can connect external GPUs, and there are lot of comercial products that deliver.

We can surely power the laptops with USB-PD cables, and they don't need to be from Apple (unlike the Android/PC problem where you need a cable from the brand name in many cases).

There's DisplayPort over USB-C in every Mac. And, I think, HDMI over USB-C too.

Etc.

Yes, I'm not arguing against USB C things. I'm arguing against the "we should have USB C mice and thumb drives and ,and, and". And if we don't have the USB C Peripherals then we need a normal USB one.
 

TimmeyCook

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Yes, I'm not arguing against USB C things. I'm arguing against the "we should have USB C mice and thumb drives and ,and, and". And if we don't have the USB C Peripherals then we need a normal USB one.

I don't understand what you are saying, and USB-C is the "normal one".
 

Michael Goff

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LOOOL!

USB-A is the outdated one.

USB-C is the normal one.

USB-C does what USB-A did.

USB-A doesn't do what USB-C does.

USB-A has no way but the way of the extinction.

Except it's not because most of the things normal people use is on USB A. USB C is an ideal that has gone basically nowhere.
 

TimmeyCook

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Except it's not because most of the things normal people use is on USB A. USB C is an ideal that has gone basically nowhere.

And "normal people" don't matter, because "normal people" don't buy > $1000 laptops or any PC for that matter.
 

venom600

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And "normal people" don't matter, because "normal people" don't buy > $1000 laptops or any PC for that matter.

Don't be obtuse, you know he means normal people that use computers. That is the attitude that caused Apple to nearly go bankrupt in the 90s and rendered Firewire, a standard that was superior to USB 1 and 2 in virtually every way, niche standard that only had a brief moment in the sun thanks to the video editing trend. Contrary to what you believe, most people matter more than you do. Until its use scales down to things normal people buy it won't catch on, and it certainly won't replace USB-A, the most ubiquitous connector on the planet.

It doesn't offer a big enough benefit to most people to outweigh the nightmare of a million different cables that look the same but don't perform the same, and that's before we include Thunderbolt 3 cables in the mix. It doesn't outweigh the benefit of using all of your existing devices without adapters. Normal people don't like dongles that they can lose.
 

TimmeyCook

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Don't be obtuse, you know he means normal people that use computers. That is the attitude that caused Apple to nearly go bankrupt in the 90s and rendered Firewire, a standard that was superior to USB 1 and 2 in virtually every way, niche standard that only had a brief moment in the sun thanks to the video editing trend. Contrary to what you believe, most people matter more than you do. Until its use scales down to things normal people buy it won't catch on, and it certainly won't replace USB-A, the most ubiquitous connector on the planet.

It doesn't offer a big enough benefit to most people to outweigh the nightmare of a million different cables that look the same but don't perform the same, and that's before we include Thunderbolt 3 cables in the mix. It doesn't outweigh the benefit of using all of your existing devices without adapters. Normal people don't like dongles that they can lose.

The same attitude is why Apple is the #1 company with $1 trillion market cap and no PC OEM or Android OEM is even close to half that.

"It doesn't offer a big enough benefit to most people to outweigh the nightmare of a million different cables that look the same but don't perform the same"

That's why we still are using RS-232 cables, Centronics cables, 5 ¼ floppies, VGA cables, etc...

Apple's computers start at $1000 give or take, and that's clearly not for the majority of people but "for the rest of us".
 

mpainesyd

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I have several USB-c adapters/hubs. None have every function that I use. At most I can only plug 1 usb-c peripheral cable into them and often the power supply is inadequate. I have been told that the current usb-c specification does not support hubs with several usb-c sockets. If this is the case then it is deplorable.
 
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