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Apple_Robert

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I'm going through the same thing. I just ported 3 lines to Verizon from T-Mobile. I have an unlocked paid off TMO AW series 3 GPS + Cellular. Verizon says it can't activate on there network and I have to buy a new Verizon AW for it to work.
But I thought all AWs have the same esim and chips in them.
You don't have to buy a new watch. You just need to get in touch with someone at Verizon that knows what they are doing.
 
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bruinsrme

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You don't have to buy a new watch. You just need to get in touch with someone at Verizon that knows what they are doing.
Was in Apple yesterday, a Verizon customer comes in and asked the Apple person for a new sim for their watch. An att CSR delivered the same line to me.

Another att csr to me the watch was set up.
It was set up as a Samsung wearable
 

jamezr

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You don't have to buy a new watch. You just need to get in touch with someone at Verizon that knows what they are doing.

I have been to the store and had the rep work on it. I have called twice and spoke with a tier 2 rep. I asked her about the process to add the model number and IMEI and serial to be added to their provision database. She took the information from my AW and tried to look it up to add it to the database and said it failed. Gave her the info again and failed a second time. She spoke with her supervisor and they said they could not be done. They both said only a Verizon AW work on their network.
 

imola.zhp

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Same "hell" here.

Bought a watch that had never been activated on ANY network actually, but Verizon says it is "locked." The watch was sealed brand new in box, the seller said it came from an Apple Store. Both the seller and myself have called several times and have been told they will add the watch to their system and to wait 48 hours.

Still not working. I don't want to have to do an eBay return on this seller, doesn't seem like its his fault I'm with Verizon but if he had sold it to any other Verizon user they would be going through the same thing. Now the watch is clearly used, what a mess.

Checked on several sites, not blacklisted or locked as far as I can tell.

The seller wants to talk to me on the phone this evening. Not sure how that is going to go. I asked for proof of purchase so I can visit the apple store with the device, he has not provided said proof yet.
 

james2538

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Same "hell" here.

Bought a watch that had never been activated on ANY network actually, but Verizon says it is "locked." The watch was sealed brand new in box, the seller said it came from an Apple Store. Both the seller and myself have called several times and have been told they will add the watch to their system and to wait 48 hours.

Still not working. I don't want to have to do an eBay return on this seller, doesn't seem like its his fault I'm with Verizon but if he had sold it to any other Verizon user they would be going through the same thing. Now the watch is clearly used, what a mess.

Checked on several sites, not blacklisted or locked as far as I can tell.

The seller wants to talk to me on the phone this evening. Not sure how that is going to go. I asked for proof of purchase so I can visit the apple store with the device, he has not provided said proof yet.

You don't need proof of purchase to go to the Apple Store. It has been less than a year since Series 3 devices came out and they should all be under warranty. You can double check by typing the serial number in to https://checkcoverage.apple.com

Get in contact with Apple Support. At the very least they need to know that all these people are having trouble activating the cellular portion almost a year after the LTE watch came out. Do a three-way call with Apple to the Verizon tech support, they need to record that Verizon is being completely uncooperative and telling customers entirely incorrect information.
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I have been to the store and had the rep work on it. I have called twice and spoke with a tier 2 rep. I asked her about the process to add the model number and IMEI and serial to be added to their provision database. She took the information from my AW and tried to look it up to add it to the database and said it failed. Gave her the info again and failed a second time. She spoke with her supervisor and they said they could not be done. They both said only a Verizon AW work on their network.

When I was on the phone with them it was explained to me that to actually add an IMEI to the database requires they submit some sort of internal petition which takes 2-3 days. Every time they just did a database lookup it obviously failed.
 

BrianFlyGuy

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Ok everyone... had the same issue with Verizon... I transferred Fromm T-Mobile to Verizon and was told by Verizon everything would go smooth... once I transferred and tried to activate my series 3 watch I kept getting errors... I talked to Verizon who told me T-Mobile must have locked the Sim & IMEI... after getting off the phone with T-Mobile they gave me a website to check and clearly it was not locked... I then called Apple Care (I don’t have apple care on the watch as I got it from T-Mobile) and they themselves called Verizon and was told by Verizon that they will not activate and can not activate anyone Apple Watch from another carrier then can only if you get right from Apple or Verizon themselves... tech rep from Verizon told Apple care Rep that there is even a memo stating this and that they have no work around... Apple rep was confused as he told them they should have a way to update the internal sim and be able to do it... Apple Rep was not pleased... after no resolution from Verizon the Apple Rep opened a ticket to the highest level of tech support for the watch and after 5 days there was no resolution or work around... my Apple care rep was amazing and offered a one time swap right from Apple themselves (even though I don’t have apple care).... today I went right to the store where they swapped it out for me... I suggest that if you do have the series 3 and want to get it working on Verizon call Apple care directly because my outcome was great
 
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dave006

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Just to clarify there is no need to have AppleCare, the Series 3 LTE only began shipping last September 25th so all watches should be covered by a 1 yr warranty.

Apple and Verizon need to work together or Apple needs to replace the watch under warranty at least until the 1yr warranty period has expired.

Dave
 

imola.zhp

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After a very busy end of summer I finally had some time to go to the Apple Store. Sure, eBay and PayPal would have stood behind me due to this watch not working as advertised but as a eBay seller (not a business, just sell my old junk on eBay) I felt this was not fair to the seller that sold us the watch. He sold it as new, it arrived as new and I did not feel it was his fault we could not get the watch on Verizon. I even spoke to him on the phone about it back in July.

Before being able to replace it the Apple Store employee said they needed me to try a full reset and start over as if the watch was brand new, not restore from a previous backup. Ok, I can do that, but I went to the store with the watch and not the phone it is typically paired to. I was able to call and have the watch un-paired successfully but I would have to attempt the rest at home and make a return trip if it didn't work.

I left the store and called Verizon on the way home to attempt, again, to get the watch added. The customer service rep had me on the phone for quite some time, on hold off and on, trying to figure it out. This time she was saying it wasn't that they thought the watch was locked to another provider but rather that every time they tried to add the device they got an error. This made me feel a bit less bad about trying to get the watch replaced through Apple, maybe there really was something wrong with the watch.

Got home, late to a pool party for the afternoon/evening, didn't think much about the situation. Got home from being out, went to re-pair the watch as a new device, not restoring from a backup, and the watch paired and added itself to our Verizon account with no problems. Total WTF moment afterwards...

So if you are finding this topic and message in particular, if you are upgrading from a non-LTE watch to an LTE watch and cannot seem to add it to your Verizon account (or possibly other providers) try un-pairing the watch and setting it up as a new watch. This 3 month old birthday present now has its full intended functionality for a user that frequently forgets their phone.
 
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shellzj

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I'm having the exact same issue with my Apple Watch Series 4. I bought it from T-Mobile at launch but switched to Verizon over the holiday. I keep getting the "this device is not compatible" error on my iPhone at cellular setup.

(The reason I bought the watch from T-Mobile at launch, is because they had it in stock whereas Costco and Apple didn't. If I could do it all over again, I would've waited to get it from Costco so I could've just returned it).

The Verizon rep in-store said he thought the watch was locked to T-Mobile. I've called T-Mobile 4 times, and they assured me it's not locked (I own it outright). The Verizon phone support ultimately said that they won't activate Apple watches not purchased from Apple or Verizon and then transferred me to telesales.

I spent 4 hours on the phone with Apple tech support only to have a senior advisor "take ownership of my issue" then politely say "f-off, cellular activation is not Apple's problem."

I took it to the Apple store, tech confirmed it wouldn't connect to Verizon and mailed it in to a repair center. The repair center mailed it back saying they "couldn't replicate the issue."

I switched to Verizon at Costco when a regional Verizon rep was there (threw in an extra $100 per line for switching). So my next step is to reach out to that regional rep and see if he can't reach these "database management technicians" that a previous poster suggested.

If really Apple hardware has nothing to do with this issue, I don't understand why Verizon is making it so hard for me to give them another $30 in activation fees plus $10/mo in perpetuity.

But wow, I'm seriously pissed/ disappointed in Apple on this issue.

Update 1/25/19 - The Genius Bar has now sent back my watch to the repair depot 3 times, and all three times the repair depot has declined to replace it. They say that there is nothing wrong with it, and that I need to contact Verizon.

On the third attempt, I escalated the issue to the manager at my local Apple Store in Houston. We confirmed that there was no problem with my Verizon plan or iPhone Xs by successfully pairing a new watch to my Verizon account (but he didn't let me keep the new watch).

The manager claims that he does not have authorization to do in-store replacements of Apple Watches not purchased directly from Apple. He maintains that all he can do is send it back to the repair depot. His notes on the RMA said, "recommend replace per manager" but the depot just ignored them like the last two times.

Verizon remains of the opinion that it cannot be added to to their network, and advises me to purchase a "Verizon-compatible" watch.
 
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Caesars

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I'm having the exact same issue with my Apple Watch Series 4. I bought it from T-Mobile at launch but switched to Verizon over the holiday. I keep getting the "this device is not compatible" error on my iPhone at cellular setup.

(The reason I bought the watch from T-Mobile at launch, is because they had it in stock whereas Costco and Apple didn't. If I could do it all over again, I would've waited to get it from Costco so I could've just returned it).

The Verizon rep in-store said he thought the watch was locked to T-Mobile. I've called T-Mobile 4 times, and they assured me it's not locked (I own it outright). The Verizon phone support ultimately said that they won't activate Apple watches not purchased from Apple or Verizon and then transferred me to telesales.

I spent 4 hours on the phone with Apple tech support only to have a senior advisor "take ownership of my issue" then politely say "f-off, cellular activation is not Apple's problem."

I took it to the Apple store, tech confirmed it wouldn't connect to Verizon and mailed it in to a repair center. The repair center mailed it back saying they "couldn't replicate the issue."

I switched to Verizon at Costco when a regional Verizon rep was there (threw in an extra $100 per line for switching). So my next step is to reach out to that regional rep and see if he can't reach these "database management technicians" that a previous poster suggested.

If really Apple hardware has nothing to do with this issue, I don't understand why Verizon is making it so hard for me to give them another $30 in activation fees plus $10/mo in perpetuity.

But wow, I'm seriously pissed/ disappointed in Apple on this issue.


Do you know if the line is active on the original carrier?
 

shellzj

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Do you know if the line is active on the original carrier?
Hey Caesars, thanks for your reply. Yes, I've confirmed 4 times with T-Mobile that the watch is neither active nor locked to their network. I also already got my final bill from them showing no activity.
 

tbui1604

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I think that we will find out more to this story as we discuss the possible "reasons" that Verizon would be unable to add the watch's IMEI to their system. There are really 3 possible reasons.

Reason 1: The watch and the associated IMEI was reported lost or stolen and it has been blacklisted. Reason 2: An Insurance claim (carrier) was made for this watch and the associated IMEI and it has been blacklisted. Reason 3: watch was originally purchased on an installment plan and the original purchaser stopped paying and it has been blacklisted.

@renzska, if the cause of your problem is not listed above than Apple and Verizon should be working together to fix this issue for you in 2-3 days. Worst case since your watch should still have a valid Apple warranty, Apple should cover this issue as a warranty claim and simply replace the watch. Do you have an Apple store nearby? If not you can always call Apple again and escalate your case.

The information you posted about Verizon claiming that you need to get a "Verizon" model is as you suspected just bad information from an uninformed CSR. There are only 3 versions of the cellular model available worldwide. There is only 1 version for use here in the USA by all 4 of the Major carriers: AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile and Sprint. We have had reports from all 4 carriers where a rep is insisting that you must buy your watch directly from the carrier. They really can't explain why Apple would also sell the Cellular watch if it "must" be purchased carrier specific.

Now let's look at the issue being simply a poorly trained carrier CSR. What the rep needs to do is to "park" the IMEI and the EID numbers from the watch on to a new $10 Wearable plan on your existing Verizon billing account. Both the IMEI and the long EID numbes on located on the bottom of the watch's box. Once this is done you should be able to complete the rest of the setup using the Watch app on your paired iPhone.

A couple of things to also be aware of is that your plan must be a fairly recent plan and be a post-paid account and there are limits to the total number of phones and connected devices per plan. You must login to the MyVerizon mobile app as the Account Owner or Account Manager to add the NumberShare feature that allows your cellular watch to use the same phone number as your paired iPhone.

Dave
[doublepost=1554276489][/doublepost]Hi Dave,
If the watch is blacklisted, can I still use it via bluetooth with my phone? Will the watch be used as the one with GPS only version. I just bought an apple watch series 4 (cell) from someone on Ebay, I currently check the IMEI and know that the watch is still under installment plan, the seller hasn't take any action yet, but i'm kinda worried if he reported the AW as a stolen one, i'm not sure if he does so, the watch will still turn on and work with my phone or not.

Thanks,

Thinh
 

ThaiBruin

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I just got an apple watch series 5 used and I'm having the same problem... when attempting to add cellular service through the watch app and logging into verizon, it tells me my device is not compatible. as it looks like this thread hasn't had any activity in nearly a year, I'm wondering if people found a quick fix for this? I'm really afraid of calling Verizon only to be given the runaround. any help would be appreciated!
 

bruinsrme

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I just got an apple watch series 5 used and I'm having the same problem... when attempting to add cellular service through the watch app and logging into verizon, it tells me my device is not compatible. as it looks like this thread hasn't had any activity in nearly a year, I'm wondering if people found a quick fix for this? I'm really afraid of calling Verizon only to be given the runaround. any help would be appreciated!
if You want cellular the only way to fix it is to call Verizon or find a competent knowledge person in a store.
the issue is the IMEI number is not in Verizon’s device data base do it needs to be added.
Same thing happened with my phone. It’s going yo take a little going back and forth with Verizon.
you will need know if the watch was/is activated on another network.
iccid and imei
you also may have to erase the watch and restore.
Allocate at least an hour or two with Verizon.
key phrases - I have a new Apple Watch, I purchased it from, . When I try to activate the watch it tells me it is not compatible. I had this happen before and the watch needed to be added to Verizon’s allowable devices data base.
 
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ThaiBruin

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Thanks for the response. I had a feeling this would still require trying to say the right things to the right people in order to get the IMEI added to the right database. I really wish this wouldn't require 1-2hrs+ of my life just to give Verizon more of my money, but so it goes with them I guess. I wish there were a direct line to the database folks there. :)
 

bruinsrme

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Thanks for the response. I had a feeling this would still require trying to say the right things to the right people in order to get the IMEI added to the right database. I really wish this wouldn't require 1-2hrs+ of my life just to give Verizon more of my money, but so it goes with them I guess. I wish there were a direct line to the database folks there. :)
Make it worth your while by asking them to waive the activation fee
 

MKBistro

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I wanted to add something to this in case it will help someone else. In my case I was on Verizon with multiple devices and one Apple Watch. I switched to T-Mobile for a very short time and had no issues with my Verizon purchased Apple Watch working on t mobile’s network. I had to switch back to Verizon after 6 months due to poor coverage where I live. While I was with t mobile I purchased an additional Apple Watch which was added to my account. When I switched back over to Verizon all of my devices and previous Apple watch worked but the one t mobile purchased Apple Watch would not allow Verizon to add it to my account. They were getting an error message that said the device was not compatible with Verizon’s network. I asked what that meant and the Verizon rep told me it was because Apple manufactured that phone with a special chip only for t mobile networks. Something about that didn’t sound right so I contacted Apple support. They told me they were not aware of any special chips. They manufacture all Apple watches with one chip which is compatible with all networks. The solution was to use the Apple Watch app on the iPhone that the watch was originally paired with and unpair in settings. It then gave me an option to delete the previous data plan settings and then reset the watch to factory settings. Once that was done I went back to Verizon and they were then able to add the device on my account after going through pairing and resetting the watch one more time. It seems that the issue for people who purchased used watches is that they were not unpaired properly.
 
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