Very Cheap "Android experience" between iPad Mini and iPad Air :-)

[Technarchy]

I'm sure you would have said the same thing in the early 90s.

That's ok. We know you can't fathom the inevitable at the current pace. Too bad apple isn't taking the inevitable more seriously either.

Exactly what parallels do you think exist between Apple 2013 and Apple 1990s besides the name. Apple never had the profits, brand recognition or the market share it has today.

As a company, before the iPod Apple products were typically below 10% market share at best with +/-5% being the norm pre-iPod.

What do think happened "in the 90's" exactly?

 

[douflag]

ts not that different. I had a nexus 7 last year which runs stock android, which is different to the touch wiz skin that is found on the Samsung devices that I favour. I was able to use the nexus easily enough and wasnt rummaging around in the settings looking for things. At that point the nexus was running jelly bean and my Samsung devices were on ice cream sandwich. There a lot of universal constants in all android devices. In fact most phones are intuitive enough. I've sorted things out for colleagues with lumias and BlackBerry devices as well as other android devices and it took me less than 30 seconds to figure things out.

That's fine. I was just merely pointing out my experience with Android devices.

For some odd reason, I just couldn't figure out how to turn on airplane mode in the S3. Guess I'm just hung up on that experience. I figured out, like you said, intuitively how to do certain functions on my Nexus 7 and the S4 within seconds. Tried the same thing with the S3 and didn't get the same results which was odd. I guess for something so simple, why does there need to be multiple skins or methods for accessing it across those devices. Heck, why is it seemingly different with the same brand (i.e. touch wiz skin)?

You don't have to answer; it's all rhetorical and it's just my opinion only. Android devices are great. They're always utilizing the most up to date tech and their software is often ahead of Apple's, but at some point, the customization becomes a burden to me.

 

[Count Blah]

Exactly what parallels do you think exist between Apple 2013 and Apple 1990s besides the name. Apple never had the profits, brand recognition or the market share it has today.

As a company, before the iPod Apple products were typically below 10% market share at best with +/-5% being the norm pre-iPod.

What do think happened "in the 90's" exactly?

apple was personal computing in the late 80s and early 90s. While DOS systems kept on providing more for less, apple kept the prices high, and software manufacturers moved to DOS then windows(where did Microsoft get their start again?). Producing expensive/high margin machines exclusively brought apple to the bring in the mid 90s as the numbers, and software producers, moved to greener pastures.

Sounds pretty familiar/similar to today. At one point in time, the software $ was all on Mac as well.

 

[Zaft]

apple was personal computing in the late 80s and early 90s. While DOS systems kept on providing more for less, apple kept the prices high, and software manufacturers moved to DOS then windows(where did Microsoft get their start again?). Producing expensive/high margin machines exclusively brought apple to the bring in the mid 90s as the numbers, and software producers, moved to greener pastures.

Sounds pretty familiar/similar to today. At one point in time, the software $ was all on Mac as well.

developers have yet to move from ios to android. your comparison fails at all levels.

 

[Count Blah]

developers have yet to move from ios to android. your comparison fails at all levels.

Not yet. That is the whole point. Continue down this same path(we'll take the high road, you take all other roads), and it will eventually happen. THat's the point of predictions, saying things will happen before they do. The hardware marketshare is falling into place exactly like the late 80s/early 90s. The software is sure to follow.

 

[Zaft]

Not yet. That is the whole point. Continue down this same path(we'll take the high road, you take all other roads), and it will eventually happen. THat's the point of predictions, saying things will happen before they do. The hardware marketshare is falling into place exactly like the late 80s/early 90s. The software is sure to follow.

Seeing as android has like 80% of the market share what are developers waiting for then ?

 

[Count Blah]

Seeing as android has like 80% of the market share what are developers waiting for then ?

Cheap android tables to be of better quality, and to be supported by the manufacturers(aka supported OS upgrades). Right now fragmentation is horrible. So cheap, up-to-date tablets = Cha-ching on the android side. It will happen, don't worry.

For whatever reason, you fear competition. As an Apple AND android consumer, I welcome it. It should bring out the best on both sides, to the benefit of the consumer. That is, if Apple changes things up, it will.

 

[Zaft]

Cheap android tables to be of better quality, and to be supported by the manufacturers(aka supported OS upgrades). Right now fragmentation is horrible. So cheap, up-to-date tablets = Cha-ching on the android side. It will happen, don't worry.

For whatever reason, you fear competition. As an Apple AND android consumer, I welcome it. It should bring out the best on both sides, to the benefit of the consumer. That is, if Apple changes things up, it will.

I do not fear competition. Quite the opposite. I just don't believe apple will become irrelevant as you imply. Both will co exist.

 

[Count Blah]

I do not fear competition. Quite the opposite. I just don't believe apple will become irrelevant as you imply. Both will co exist.

By no means do I think apple will be irrelevant. Far from it. But the pattern is similar, provided apple does not react to the competition. The ecosystem is very different than it was back in the early PC days. But apple is not completely insulated from a potential developer/app shift.

A coordinated, commonly advancing android user base, would be the biggest threat apple has faced in a decade. I'm just pointing out that the Low end android phone/tablet is starting to gain the "advancing user base" capabilities. As more manufacturers jump on board, the fragmentation that has benefited apple immensely, will evaporate. Apple would have to adapt in that event. Thy have not shown an ability/willingness to do that yet.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

developers have yet to move from ios to android. your comparison fails at all levels.

I'll bet a good amount that Apple has a decent amount of developers in their pocket.

 

[Zaft]

I'll bet a good amount that Apple has a decent amount of developers in their pocket.

How so? You mean they are making money off their apps or apple is paying them off?

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

How so? You mean they are making money off their apps or apple is paying them off?

I mean to keep some apps/games exclusive for iOS for good or for an amount of time. I wouldn't doubt Apple is throwing those developers incentives. Maybe taking a lower percentage? Keeping them on the featured list? etc?