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Hang on I am confused now about who was confused and who the answers made confused or who still is confused. I am confused.
"I got all confused after reading your post. Hmm...I read it again and got even more confused than everyone else in this thread" o_O

~Confuceiouss.
 
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Although not legal. I’ll be interested in self driving cars when you can request it comes pick you up and it auto drives to you. Then you can have a nap whilst it drives you home from the pub. Like in the first Batman movie.
Not only nap, but also one won't have to worry about being "under the influence." This will be long into the future, when an automobile would be much like a personal android. By then one can also have a nearly self-aware multifunction android at home. It could drive, nurse, or even please? ...ahem!

My apologies! I have overdone the joking around.
 
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How's this for a big viewfinder?

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Yes it is - Enormous View Finder…..

If you want to see enormous, look at an RB67. At the very basic, they need to show a 6x7 frame AND have enough real estate that it can be masked based on the rotation of the back. That means you need a 7x7 screen. In actuality, though, in the horizontal dimension they will go as large as 6x8-you just have to give up rotation(and I don't think Mamiya ever made a back in that format). That means that the focusing screen comes out to something like 8cm wide and 7cm tall.

I actually don't have a waist level for my Pentax 67-I only use the eye level with it. It's not exactly small, though.
 
If you want to see enormous, look at an RB67. At the very basic, they need to show a 6x7 frame AND have enough real estate that it can be masked based on the rotation of the back. That means you need a 7x7 screen. In actuality, though, in the horizontal dimension they will go as large as 6x8-you just have to give up rotation(and I don't think Mamiya ever made a back in that format). That means that the focusing screen comes out to something like 8cm wide and 7cm tall.

I actually don't have a waist level for my Pentax 67-I only use the eye level with it. It's not exactly small, though.
Do you know a lot about medium format? Some day I will have to pick your brain, but I'm not there yet. I love the look of both the TLR and the Mamiya style MF with the waist finder. I know they are very different, but still. They look fun. 🙂
 
If you want to see enormous, look at an RB67. At the very basic, they need to show a 6x7 frame AND have enough real estate that it can be masked based on the rotation of the back. That means you need a 7x7 screen. In actuality, though, in the horizontal dimension they will go as large as 6x8-you just have to give up rotation(and I don't think Mamiya ever made a back in that format). That means that the focusing screen comes out to something like 8cm wide and 7cm tall.

I actually don't have a waist level for my Pentax 67-I only use the eye level with it. It's not exactly small, though.
I'm looking to pick up it's cousin, the RZ67. One of it's variants (oops - not a nice word these days) is able to do both film and handle a smaller 6x4.5-ish digital back, which I use as well. I was able to handle a non-"D" version recently and love it. It's a beast and I love the size of the film image. I have a B&W film developing class coming up here in a bit and am hoping to take one along if I can pull the trigger. If not, I'll take my Nikon FM2n which is a lovely camera. I'd started the class last year before everything got whacked with lockdowns.

Incidentally, talking of the d850 in your other thread, I'd use this to digitize the negative. Not sure about what I'm going to do there, maybe something from negative.supply (or whatever). That's another discussion entirely :) .
 
Do you know a lot about medium format? Some day I will have to pick your brain, but I'm not there yet. I love the look of both the TLR and the Mamiya style MF with the waist finder. I know they are very different, but still. They look fun. 🙂
"A lot" might be overstating things, but I've been shooting medium format since ~2006 and have used a lot of the systems out there. I started with Rollei TLRs(back when they were still affordable), then about 6 years ago decided to go big-time and bought into the Bronica SQ system. Along the way, I wanted to go bigger and built a Mamiya RB67 kit. I also happened upon a Bronica ETRS system, which is 645, and bought it but didn't use it much. Oh, there was the Bronica S2a kit along in there, which is a really technically interesting camera but a mechanical nightmare that's also loud and shaky. I had a Pentax 645N also.

Finally, a camera store owner I dealt with a lot basically made me take a 4 lens Hassy 500C kit home for a weekend, and I showed up back the next week with a check for it. I liked it(still like it) better than my other 6x6 cameras, the Bronica SQ and S2, so those got sold and I focused on Hasselblad.

Then, I decided to give the Pentax 6x7 system a try when I was offered a good deal on a 67 body and 5-lens kit. I tried it and found that I liked it a lot and it suited me better than the RB67, which is more versatile but also more cumbersome. So, out went the RB67.

Between those two, I realized I really just wasn't using any 645 stuff, so out it all went...

Now it's the Hasselblad kit(which I've built up a bit with a second body and several more backs-I actually haven't added any lenses as I have 50-250mm covered, but there's a handful I'd love to add), the Pentax, and a couple beat up Rolleiflexes and Rolleicords around.
 
Little side note too on the focusing screen in my Hasselblad photo:

That is my main Hasselblad body, a 500C from 1960. As it shipped and I purchased it, this had a true ground glass focusing screen with a condenser lens and no focus aid. These screens are easy to focus on in bright light if well shaded since they do "pop" really nicely, but are dim enough to be nearly useless in lower light.

The 500C/M was basically an updated 500C with the key change being that focusing screens were user changeable. For a while, they shipped with the same type ground glass screen. With that said, when Hasselblad started offering and shipping modern plastic/fresnel lens screens(branded Acute-matte), they were swappable into older bodies. The other side of that, though, is that a good Acute-Matte screen can cost nearly as much as a 500C/M body, and they also have their own focusing problems(it's easy to see an aerial image which will always look "in focus" and not actually see the frosted surface of the screen).

A gentleman by the name of Rick Oleson, who actually use to be local to me, has for a long time been selling aftermarket medium format camera screens. Years ago, I fitted one of his screens to my Rolleicord Va, and it was a huge improvement. When I got the 500C, I contact Rick again. In the mean time, a few interesting things had happened. For one, he'd managed to acquire the Beattie Brite-Screen tooling, and was now making his own focusing screens. In any case, he cut one for me for my 500C, I installed it, and it's been wonderful.

Fast forward a few years from there and I get a 500 EL/M as a back-up body. It actually had a really bad Chinese focusing screen in it, although my friend Chuck Rubin came to the rescue and I bought a couple of good glass Hasselblad screens from him.

I reached out to Rick and he basically said he'd never fitted a screen in a user-swappable Hasselblad frame. With that said, he was willing to give it a try. I arrived at his house on a Saturday afternoon and he took me to his office/workshop while he worked to cut and fit a screen for me. One of his big things is he makes any arrangement of gridlines you want, and I got to watch him make those. His process was brilliantly simple but also incredibly repeatable. I won't say more(even though I have photos of his tools and such) as he asked me to not publicly share the exact details of how he does it at least while he's still actively selling them. In any case, he cut the screen, then spent a good hour getting it fit to the Hasselblad frame and aligned correctly. When it was all said and done, he said I was leaving with what would probably be the only one of his screens fitted to a later Hasselblad body :) .

So, that's the long and short of that. My 500C has a microprism center, while my EL/M has a 45º split with a microprism ring.
 
I'm looking to pick up it's cousin, the RZ67. One of it's variants (oops - not a nice word these days) is able to do both film and handle a smaller 6x4.5-ish digital back, which I use as well. I was able to handle a non-"D" version recently and love it. It's a beast and I love the size of the film image. I have a B&W film developing class coming up here in a bit and am hoping to take one along if I can pull the trigger. If not, I'll take my Nikon FM2n which is a lovely camera. I'd started the class last year before everything got whacked with lockdowns.

Incidentally, talking of the d850 in your other thread, I'd use this to digitize the negative. Not sure about what I'm going to do there, maybe something from negative.supply (or whatever). That's another discussion entirely :) .

What’s your view on the digital backs with electronic shutter not the leaf shutter in the lens and that causing rolling shutter challenges? I ask because my current lotto win list topper is a Hasselblad 500 series with a CFV-50ii or a 907x of course. I am put off though with the rolling shutter challenge brought about by the digital back not working with the leaf shutter. Does the RZ67 handle firing the mechanical shutter? I mean reviewers make a big thing of it but the use case for that camera isn’t something I think rolling shutter is too much of an issue for?
 
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