Vizio to start producing Laptops and Desktops

[vitzr]

Obviously Vizio (like so many others) are missing the key ingredient to take on Apple.

Did it ever occur to you that many of the competitors have no intention of taking on Apple? There's plenty of business without even thinking about Apple, not everyone worships or is over the moon about the Cupertino company.

It's a big beautiful world, once you step out from behind the tall walls that surround Apples closed off compound. You'd be shocked at how nice it is. Just be advised it takes courage, since in the free world, one must think for themselves & learn how to make decisions.

It's a great experience

 

[*LTD*]

Did it ever occur to you that many of the competitors have no intention of taking on Apple?

Which explains a lot.

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Show me some major sources which show OSX as a hands down winner over Windows. You don't need to repeat yourself like a broken record. Stick to the facts. Using your parameters, Windows blows OSX out of the water. One billion people use Windows. If OSX was better, they'd switch.

You're not using my parameters. Not even close.

The only metric that matters is consumer satisfaction.

Market share parameters, incidentally, are different for Apple and different for MS and their OEM wenches. Macs don't sell for the same reasons PCs sell.

 

[DingleButt]

Which explains a lot.

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The only metric that matters is consumer satisfaction. Everything else is too open to interpretation.

Windows Phone and BB FTW?

 

[*LTD*]

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It's a big beautiful world, once you step out from behind the tall walls that surround Apples closed off compound. You'd be shocked at how nice it is.

Uh, no. It's not. Judging by what we've been seeing, it ranges from mediocre to downright abysmal. You can venture out out into it, but save your receipts.

I'll take the Real Thing, thanks. Not some copycat that follows Apple poorly, or some OEM that goes in the opposite direction like it's still 8 years ago. The industry outside Apple is adrift, hence, the level of Apple's success in recent years.

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Windows Phone and BB FTW?
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http://pocketnow.com/smartphone-news/average-customer-satisfaction-by-mobile-os

A Customer Think survey recently published some data regarding customer satisfaction results based on smartphone operating system. The survey found that Windows Phone 7 ended up being the most satisfying operating system of the bunch, followed by Blackberry, then Apple's iOS, then Android, with Symbian rounding out 5th place. The number of users surveyed wasn't equal for each OS though, so you have to take that into account. Actually, only 1% of customer reviews were from Windows Phone users, which seems to indicate that the few that are using Windows Phone are very satisfied. Given Symbian's extremely low satisfaction scores, it would seem Nokia may have made a good choice in switching to Windows Phone.

So who do you think are the 1% using WP7? Who do you think is even buying these? (they have to actually know about them first.)

I'll tell you exactly who is. They're all here:

http://www.neowin.com
http://www.wp7forum.com/
http://www.winsupersite.com/

And some of these folks have chosen to camp MacRumors.

WP7 is currently running on two things: fumes and fanboy power. It isn't even worth surveying until its market share number moves to somewhere north of oblivion.

 

[AppleScruff1]

Which explains a lot.

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You're not using my parameters. Not even close.

The only metric that matters is consumer satisfaction.

Market share parameters, incidentally, are different for Apple and different for MS and their OEM wenches. Macs don't sell for the same reasons PCs sell.

I knew you wouldn't answer the question. You can't. I'm not the least bit surprised.

 

[vitzr]

Uh, no. It's not. Judging by what we've been seeing, it ranges from mediocre to downright abysmal. You can venture out out into it, but save your receipts.

You're counting on Apple as though they will never decline. While I'd like to think they will continue to prosper, at least I don't have all my eggs on one basket.

Should the tide turn as it did in the past, you could be in for a very rude awakening.

I was a loyal Apple customer before, during, and after they were on death watch. A combination of sage business people within Apple _along_ with Steve Jobs brought it back from the brink. The myth that Steve saved Apple only proves once again that he was the worlds best salesman. Never hesitant to spin any story for his personal benefit.

If there's one thing you can count on, it's that you can't count on anything. Given your position, you may be in over your head.

 

[*LTD*]

You're counting on Apple as though they will never decline. While I'd like to think they will continue to prosper, at least I don't have all my eggs on one basket.

They're good for the rest of this decade. You're about to see a ridiculous amount of growth from Apple. They're moving in a major growth/profit direction. That recent Anobit investment is just a small part of the puzzle.

That's one rock-solid basket, for long enough to suit anyone. And that sits perfectly well with me.

Sent from my iPad

 

[DingleButt]

Uh, no. It's not. Judging by what we've been seeing, it ranges from mediocre to downright abysmal. You can venture out out into it, but save your receipts.

I'll take the Real Thing, thanks. Not some copycat that follows Apple poorly, or some OEM that goes in the opposite direction like it's still 8 years ago. The industry outside Apple is adrift, hence, the level of Apple's success in recent years.

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http://pocketnow.com/smartphone-news/average-customer-satisfaction-by-mobile-os

A Customer Think survey recently published some data regarding customer satisfaction results based on smartphone operating system. The survey found that Windows Phone 7 ended up being the most satisfying operating system of the bunch, followed by Blackberry, then Apple's iOS, then Android, with Symbian rounding out 5th place. The number of users surveyed wasn't equal for each OS though, so you have to take that into account. Actually, only 1% of customer reviews were from Windows Phone users, which seems to indicate that the few that are using Windows Phone are very satisfied. Given Symbian's extremely low satisfaction scores, it would seem Nokia may have made a good choice in switching to Windows Phone.

So who do you think are the 1% using WP7? Who do you think is even buying these? (they have to actually know about them first.)

I'll tell you exactly who is. They're all here:

http://www.neowin.com
http://www.wp7forum.com/
http://www.winsupersite.com/

And some of these folks have chosen to camp MacRumors.

WP7 is currently running on two things: fumes and fanboy power. It isn't even worth surveying until its market share number moves to somewhere north of oblivion.

But "The only metric that matters is consumer satisfaction."
Plus you didnt mention BB

 

[Liquorpuki]

But "The only metric that matters is consumer satisfaction."
Plus you didnt mention BB

I'm actually curious how BB users, after having gone through that 3 day outage, are still highly satisfied. Especially when back in Oct they were all pissed off and suing the crap out of RIM. What a funny poll.

 

[*LTD*]

BB's presence there is so anomalous that you might as well discount the entire survey.

 

[ILikeTurtles]

No thank you.

I bought a Vizio LED TV right before Thanksgiving. Less than two weeks later it died. Vizio gave a free replacement TV, which also died on me.

Got my money refunded, and will NEVER buy anything that brand sells ever again.

 

[george-brooks]

There are many people who call any tablet an iPad or any music player an iPod
Some folks will see this design as a way to have a "Mac" without the price point
When all they do is use Facebook and email, they don't see much difference in Windows and OS X

Exactly my opinion. I think a lot of the mac's desire for a new customer comes from how great it looks on their desk. A lot of new Mac users (especially teens and the older computer illiterate crowd) could care less about OS X and really don't see how much better it is until they have used it for a while. I really think this is going to take at least a little bit of the market away from Apple, consumers that want a computer that looks sleek and modern but can't afford Apple's prices.

A lot of people (myself inc.) have gotten a lot of negative feedback here for saying this computer poses at least a small threat to Apple because at the end of the day, its a Windows machine. But I think it is a real concern. It was obviously designed with the iMac in mind, and I think a lot of budget conscious people will say "oh, hey, it looks pretty much like an iMac and now I don't have to switch operating systems"

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Show me some major sources which show OSX as a hands down winner over Windows. You don't need to repeat yourself like a broken record. Stick to the facts. Using your parameters, Windows blows OSX out of the water. One billion people use Windows. If OSX was better, they'd switch.

Not necessarily. Price is definitely a concern. A lot of people will settle for using windows because a $350 machine is more attractive than a $1200+ machine with a better software. Windows is unfortunately the industry standard and while Apple's closed source strategy makes better products, Microsoft can make them cheaper and universal. I don't think it matters anymore that Windows is the world standard, Apple is catching up but if it doesn't maintain its status as the "windows alternative" and becomes the mainstream, I think we will start to see a lot of sacrifices in the company.

 

[MacDawg]

In my opinion, anyone who buys this wouldn't have bought a Mac anyway, so in that regard, it isn't in direct competition with the iMac or MBP

 

[*LTD*]

In my opinion, anyone who buys this wouldn't have bought a Mac anyway, so in that regard, it isn't in direct competition with the iMac or MBP

I can see Vizio taking some of the low end share, but how they expect to make money is another story. The PC industry is in a pretty abysmal state. Nearly everyone outside of Apple is in a race to the bottom, and profits are razor-thin. Cutting corners is one thing that comes to mind, which in certain cases is rather nicely hidden a by a sleek exterior.

 

[dgree03]

Vizio is considered a "Budget" brand... If even on the high end of that segment. You can't tell me with a straight face that a high-end Vizio looks the same(all things being equal settings wise) as a high end Sony, Samsung, Or Pioneer?

What it comes down to is price, which is where Vizio looks more attractive.. I can get a 65in LED LCD from Vizio for 2200 or pay 2900 for the same TV from Samsung or Sony?

I would never buy a vizio for my main tv, but for bedrooms/den/garage I would no problem! As long as they work and are reliable I am good.


That aside, Vizio with the AIO has hit the ball out of the park! Its a very clean design and Vizio has mindshare with US consumers(They sponsor some bowl games and always have superbowl ads). I think this will sell well!

 

[b24pgg]

FINALLY someone is making some thin, aluminum, 15" PCs. These things look sexy as hell.

I think Vizio is going to do very well with these. At the very least they'll be getting my business.

 

[boss.king]

I can see Vizio taking some of the low end share, but how they expect to make money is another story. The PC industry is in a pretty abysmal state. Nearly everyone outside of Apple is in a race to the bottom, and profits are razor-thin. Cutting corners is one thing that comes to mind, which in certain cases is rather nicely hidden a by a sleek exterior.

The amount of trash-talking you do is bordering on the insane. Does Apple actually pay you to do this or is it just a hobby for you? You may want to switch things up a bit though, that 'race to the bottom' quip is almost your catchphrase.

 

[juliusaugustus]

Well Here is some video for those of us who are interested (I know I am).
Promo Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBgprFh0qgI
Why
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5y1hvbCsds
Behind the devolpment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2r20f96Ny4
more behind the scenes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33UUzi6Wy6E
Some hand on action for the laptop
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPTX5o6Oiew
and the all in one...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR6o6E3iuQA
and more hands on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzVFBocFzwA
Wow those look great and judging by the reaction in the comments so far people seem to like them.
Also forgot to mention that these have 1600x900 displays and signature copies of Windows (ie no bloatware and minimal utilities)

 

[0000757]

Also forgot to mention that these have 1600x900 displays and signature copies of Windows (ie no bloatware and minimal utilities)

No bloatware? Is that even remotely possible to not include bloatware on a Windows machine? In fact, is there any Windows machine that is sold without any bloatware?

 

[yg17]

No bloatware? Is that even remotely possible to not include bloatware on a Windows machine? In fact, is there any Windows machine that is sold without any bloatware?

No, which is why I'm anxiously awaiting price, specs and reviews for these laptops, because if those are all good, I'll probably buy one.

 

[steve2112]

No bloatware? Is that even remotely possible to not include bloatware on a Windows machine? In fact, is there any Windows machine that is sold without any bloatware?

Yes, the Microsoft Store online has been selling them for a while. It's called Microsoft Signature, and they come with no pre-installed trial software. Microsoft does install some of their own stuff, such as Microsoft Security Essentials (a good thing, IMO), but there is no third party software installed. Sadly, nobody seems to know about this.

 

[juliusaugustus]

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2012/01/putting-my-hands-on-vizios-new-machines-gave-me-computer-envy/
Also the 15.6 inch models have 1080p display for all you screen resolution whores out there and the bigger notebook has dedicated nvidia graphics.