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Lord Blackadder

macrumors P6
May 7, 2004
15,678
5,511
Sod off
I find Putin's evil-genius approach to politics to be entertaining, frightening, and quintessentially Russian.

Michael Dell is just a businessman, not a tech guru. His only achievement is making obscene amounts of money. He can't even help me, much less Russia.
 

IJ Reilly

macrumors P6
Jul 16, 2002
17,909
1,496
Palookaville
I find Putin's evil-genius approach to politics to be entertaining, frightening, and quintessentially Russian.

Michael Dell is just a businessman, not a tech guru. His only achievement is making obscene amounts of money. He can't even help me, much less Russia.

Putin is a character from James Bond movie. Dell is like, nobody in particular.
 

IJ Reilly

macrumors P6
Jul 16, 2002
17,909
1,496
Palookaville
A cunning businessman nobody who has been kicked onto a pedestal.

It's a pretty low pedestal. I can't recall the source of this quote, but someone once said that if you make enough money, people will line up to call you a genius.

Edit: Found it.

Make money and the whole world will conspire to call you a gentleman.
-George Bernard Shaw
 

skunk

macrumors G4
Jun 29, 2002
11,758
6,108
Republic of Ukistan
In the interests of accuracy, it should perhaps be noted that Putin did not say: "We don't have limited mental capacity", but simply "we don't have limited capacity". The "mental" was inserted by somebody with too much imagination.
 

jodelli

macrumors 65816
Jan 6, 2008
1,219
4
Windsor, ON, Canada
The Russians have usually found a way to get things done even if it takes a couple of tries. And they historically tend to go with simple and sturdy design wise albeit not sturdy enough in the nuclear field.

As has been pointed out they have consistent launch capability for low Earth orbit even though the hardware is derived from 1960s designs. Hey, it works.

When they got wind of the SR 71 Blackbird they designed the Mig 25 to intercept it. Although not quite as fast (? actually the 71 top speed was classified) it beat any other front line military aircraft in top end. Not having the alloys to work with they were made largely of stainless steel, which was heat resistant but heavy. So the engines were huge and the range was short.

But let's face it, networking is not rocket science.

edit: Mig 25s were made mostly of a corrosion resistant nickel alloy with a similar chromium content to stainless steel.
 

SactoGuy18

macrumors 601
Sep 11, 2006
4,733
1,798
Sacramento, CA USA
The Russians have usually found a way to get things done even if it takes a couple of tries. And they historically tend to go with simple and sturdy design wise albeit not sturdy enough in the nuclear field.

When they got wind of the SR 71 Blackbird they designed the Mig 25 to intercept it. Although not quite as fast (? actually the 71 top speed was classified) it beat any other front line military aircraft in top end. Not having the alloys to work with they were made largely of stainless steel, which was heat resistant but heavy. So the engines were huge and the range was short.

Surprisingly, thanks to the need to build a rocket big enough to carry the then-very large nuclear warheads the Russians possessed, the result was the R-7 rocket, which was a gigantic rocket by 1957 standards and was technically an amazing achievement, given it was much bigger than the Atlas rocket then in development at the same time.

Actually, the MiG-25 was designed to intercept the then-planned North American B-70 Valkyrie bomber, so a plane that could cruise over Mach 2 and short-dash to Mach 3 was mandatory. That's why the Mikoyan OKB went to using the metals you mentioned for the plane, since it had to resist the heating effects of sustained Mach 2+ operations. Interestingly, the MiG-25 was better served as a high-speed high-altitude reconnaissance plane, where the Russians would fly them along the border of their own country at cruising at Mach 2.5 and 65,000 feet to see military installations along their own borders. The Syrian Air Force also used these recon MiG-25 versions, but alas, they flew them deep into Israeli territory and a small number were shot down by Israeli F-15's.

But getting back on topic, you see a lot of Russian influences in both MacOS X and Windows, given that Russians and Russian ex-patriates living in the USA have contributed a lot to these operating systems (I believe the Russians have contributed a lot to Linux, too).
 

Dont Hurt Me

macrumors 603
Dec 21, 2002
6,055
6
Yahooville S.C.
What folks forget is though the face of the system has changed in Russia it is still ran by a bunch of communists.
Putin is a communist.

Same goes for China.
 

Saladinos

macrumors 68000
Feb 26, 2008
1,845
4
It's so 20th century. In a way, the Russian and Chinese regimes are more honest that those in the Western hemisphere.

Do you people honestly think we live in a "democratic" "free market" society?

In order to succeed in politics, you need money, which for the most part is supplied by the corporate elite of the country in question. Hence, other than some public posturing, no real effort is made to curtail any of their excesses (and I do throw Obama into it, until he actually does something about said excesses other than public posturing, even though I like the guy).

And look at the corporations. Their leadership for the most part recruits itself from a select group of individuals and board oversight is a joke. The top management of one company will sit on the board of another and vice versa, of course they all will make sure that nobody gets scrutinized too hard for their conduct, and getting ousted as CEO isn't so bad either. A golden parachute will come your way, and within a short period of time you will find another company where you can extract undeserved riches from.

But by all means, do continue to live in the dream world, where you fantasize that your vote counts and you are equal among your peers.

Cheers,

Ahmed

Please tell me you're not serious.

And BTW, Dell is like Lex Luthor in the old Superman films.
 

chedda

macrumors 6502
Apr 17, 2006
281
0
Underwater
Concur

Dead serious actually. The "Free Market" and "Democracy" are a scam to f*ck the average citizen up the behind, just like every other political system in our history.
Cheers,

Ahmed

I'm with Ahmed on this one democracy means you get a choice between 2 gimps every 4 years that's it the rest is an illusion. I have always never voted i would love to see a zero turn out one day !
I'm down with the royals they built this world including Russia.
 

jodelli

macrumors 65816
Jan 6, 2008
1,219
4
Windsor, ON, Canada
Actually, the MiG-25 was designed to intercept the then-planned North American B-70 Valkyrie bomber,
.
And the Lockheed A-12 and what became the SR-71. Not that it matters but the B-70 was canceled before any production Mig 25s were built, even though it had been a stimulus.

Yeah, it is ironic that the Soviet lag in nuclear warhead reduction technology led to their having to build huge rockets that had an easy time lifting Sputnik 1.

Russians shouldn't have any problem in the IT end of things anyway.
 
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