I need to do some homework. I even turned down the TV when I read your post and I was still no more enlightened.
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Biggest problem with AMD is the perception of the brand. Everywhere. Not only on this forum, but in general.
It is depressing. The Pascal Titan is at 11TFLOPS. GTX 1080 at 9TFLOPS for a very reasonable price.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/07/gtx-titan-x-pascal-specs-price-release-date/
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It's not just perception. I'm sure there are some use cases where AMD is competitive, but for all of mine (hash cracking, data visualization, VR research, signal processing, and yes gaming amongst others), Nvidia is crushing them on pure performance, and performance per watt. And AMD has nothing to offer on the high end.
I'm not in for gaming machine...but AMD should raise their self-esteem and compete higher end.
If you compare high-end with Midrange yes. I could do the same in the other way around, and say that AMD is crushing Nvidia, But I will not do this, because I know which market segment GPUs take, and I do take this into consideration in comparison. And in Mainstream AMD is pretty much crushing Nvidia. Only place where Nvidia is winning in Mainstream market is the unoccupied 139-149$ price/performance bracket.
In another news, speaking of professional hardware.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10821...x-series?_ga=1.248674887.153976211.1469466362
So Polaris 10 with 1792 GCN cores is able to fit in 75W Thermal Envelope. If it would not have 6 pin connector, and priced at 149$ it would be greatest offer ever, because 100% it would be faster than GTX 1050 Ti.
I doubt this. The 22" acrylic cinema display with the 1600x1024 resolution was an LG 295LM internally. The LG 295LM was not only sold by LG, but by SGI too. SGI branded the display as F220, but the similarity was quite obvious. Apple did a little bit more. To be exact, they stripped the speakers, various inputs and the cool picture in picture feature. And instead they build the beautiful acrylic case and bundled all connectors into one cable. Which was a nice solution.
But when you opened the 22" cinema display, the actual display unit was the same as the LG. So I doubt that Apple build the cinema display because there were no high quality options from third party suppliers. You might be right if we talk about Apple's standard regarding style. In this regard they leapfrogged the whole industry at that time.
Sorry Koyoot, all I'm hearing is if, if, if...
I personally am not interested in the low end of the market, and apparently AMD cannot compete at the high end.
I will wait for Vega to say that they can or cannot compete on high-end.
For the first time since I started reading his blog, Apple's cheerleader-in-chief John Gruber is expressing concern about a possible discontinuation of the MacPro.
He quotes Marco Arment's blog post "A world without the Mac Pro" (it has been linked to previously on this subforum), and adds the following commentary:
Subsequently, he links to this post, and adds:
http://daringfireball.net/
He quotes Marco Arment's blog post "A world without the Mac Pro" (it has been linked to previously on this subforum), and adds the following commentary:
Subsequently, he links to this post, and adds:
http://daringfireball.net/
He really should have asked when he had the chance to... at WWDC'16 when they were sitting next to him.
https://www.maxon.net/en/news/press...s-cross-platform-gpu-rendering-collaboration/
Anyone heard about this? Is it important/meaningful/huge information?
How big/important is Cinema 4D?
Anyone heard about this? Is it important/meaningful/huge information?
How big/important is Cinema 4D?
It is interesting how even Apple pundits swim in some very different waters. You've had plenty of guys bemoaning the lack of Mac updates; Jason Snell at Six Colors will always take a moment to pour one out for the Mac Mini and Pro. Stephen Hackett wrote a post when it hit 1000 days that went around to The Loop. But Arment posts a story and suddenly it's news to some people.
Because the extent of the partnership was probably "hey build a monitor that can function as a docking station for our new computers, and we'll call it out and sell it in our store."
They didn't "collaborate" the design something like an in-house product.
As it is, the reality is you either get a nice looking monitor or you get an uglier one that can probably at least tilt and move around more for ergonomic reasons. I'm incredibly surprised my Dell P2415Q looks as good as it does, but there's no doubt a Mac one would be superior, and I'd be willing to pay the extra couple hundred of bucks for the privilege. Until I got the Dell I was still rocking a 20" aluminum ACD as a secondary monitor, and they're still regularly in use at work. Certainly dated tech but they're still rock-solid.
I'd love to know why they decided to get out of the monitor business. You'd think they'd have solid margins, and honestly if you got a 5K IPS panel it's probably going to be fairly-well future-proofed; it's not like the monitor line requires that frequent an update; it is a product you can update every five years and people won't complain.
In the DCC world, esp when you take in the Motion Graphics industry, where even the traditionally high end VFX apps are beginning to branch into (Autodesk Maya, Houdini ), Cinema 4D has long been the standard. Adobe After effects ... another app long associated with Motion graphics, uses a mini version of Cinema 4D.
So with Maxon, the makers of Cinema 4D, throwing it weight behind AMDs GPU rendering solution is huge. Real time rendering output for motion graphic artists will be very beneficial. The same goes for other industries where Cinema 4D competes with the big boys.
With a respected 3D app developer supporting AMD's GPU rendering solution, I say it's viability is assured. I suspect some other developers may follow suit.
When Tim Cook first took over and every update was greeted by a certain segment of detractors as 'not what Jobs would do,' I wasn't at all sympathetic. But this many years in I think Tim Cook is merely a bean counter and as Steve Blank argues here, out of touch with the end user experience and doesn't really understand what gives value to the Apple brand. Cook has focused on short term profit and been successful but along the way has eroded the long term value of the brand. We see this in the negligence of product lines and the manufactured obsolescence of others as well as the user experience (dongles and devices that don't work out of the box with one another, i.e. iPhone and MPB - "it just works" is now a dead slogan).
I've often thought of the Mac Pro and Cinema Display as simply advertising for the brand itself, comparable to elite sports cars auto makers have. They don't sell many of them but the tech in them sometimes filters down to lesser models furthermore they tend to attract a lot of attention to the brand. There's no reason to give up the Cinema Display or Mac Pro - just a lack of vision. Making solid long lasting computers at both the top and mid range level is an insurance policy that consumers will stay loyal to the brand. No coincidence as Apple shows a lack of interest in these areas users are questioning what's worth staying for.
Eh, I don't think the Ballmer analogy makes sense, because a Ballmer at the head of Apple wouldn't have had the issue with stale Mac lineups—they would have continued to iterate on the same stuff, which would likely have pleased a lot of people like us, but then wouldn't have been looking for the next big thing. That's obviously not Apple's problem—they're looking at a lot of different things, like autos or AI, and are willing to blow a lot of money and decide it's not what they should be doing. If you're going to fault Cook for anything it'd probably be that he's got too many things going on and thus smaller projects like the Mac have seen their progress and time shifted to more profitable sectors and future R&D.
Thank you for information about Cinema 4D. Was more curious about the application rather than GPU wins.
We could see one of these X550 on the nMP.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10818...herboard-review-10g-networking-intel-x550-at2
But this will add up to the already power constrains.
And if X99 will be used, the switches will have to be there too, making it worse.
But I'm confident that X299 will be the one.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10818...herboard-review-10g-networking-intel-x550-at2
But this will add up to the already power constrains.
And if X99 will be used, the switches will have to be there too, making it worse.
But I'm confident that X299 will be the one.
What do Mac Pro users and mushrooms have in common?
They're both kept in the dark and fed b*******
:rimshot.
They're both kept in the dark and fed b*******
:rimshot.
Yes, but it was probably part of the deal. He gets Apple execs on his show, but only softball questions.
I don't know how hard it is to answer, "what happened to Mac Pro?"
Answering the question isn't hard.
It takes courage to ask the question.
Stay tuned.
Because honestly it probably wasn't on Gruber's radar. The guy has barely talked about PowerMac/Mac Pros since the site's founding; in volume mobile and phone stuff is far more what he talks about.
What are they going to say?
"We had a strategy that we wouldn't release a machine with only a GPU update, while the CPU and overall system stay more or less the same, because then everyone would bitch at us making them pay for a whole new machine just to get a new GPU. Now, we do kinda want them to do just that, so we don't want to make GPUs user-servicable, but we don't want to be that obvious about it. We were expecting Intel to produce a new generation of chipsets that would let us do a whole system upgrade to help cover for how incremental each individual component improvement was, but that got delayed, and our gamble to skip the interim update ended up not paying off."
Which pretty much covers both the Mac Pro and the Macbook Pro.
Or he could said either
1) "What's mac pro? OOHHH you mean MacBook Amateur! "
2) "We are not making it anymore."
or
3) "Gpu is ready, cpu is ready,....but I felt iphone and macbook amateur takes precedent."