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Waiting for the 2020 MBP
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Nobody knows, but all the rumours are pointing to 13" laptops first, using the current design.
If I were to guess, I'd say that suggests the MBP might move to 14" next year under the expected re-design?
For the 16 inch model my bet is:
I do not know if the ARM will come to the 16 inch but we will see at least a GPU refresh on a Intel based.
My prediction is based on the availability and the delivery time
- Intel 2,4GHz
maybewill be replaced.
- AMD 5500 (both 4 and 8 GB) will be replaced.
- AMD 5600 stays (obviusly).
I do not know if the ARM will come to the 16 inch but we will see at least a GPU refresh on a Intel based.
My prediction is based on the availability and the delivery time
The 14" was never on the table for this year, it was always tied in with the mini LED rumours which are for 2021. '13 inch' MacBooks are always 13.3" 16:10 panels, or have been to date at least. I think we might start seeing custom panels (think iPad Pro) with Apple's new Mac design language from next year, these could well be non-standard sizes made to fit the chassis rather than the other way around.
Difficult to say, Kuo is still really the only one talking about it in any level of detail and while he's usually good for what's happening, he can often be a bit out on the when. FWIW he says 'Q2 or Q3' next year, and I think he's talking about calendar quarters not Apple's weird offset quarters, so that means a spring event, or WWDC assuming it's not a press release launch. Could just as easily be this time next year if we get new models now anyway, I'd wait until there's more leakers all saying the same things before taking it as read. I would have thought if it was happening in spring, for one we wouldn't be getting a 16" refresh now (assuming it does show up at the event) and also more people would have been reporting it.
Kuo: Apple Silicon Macs to Include 13-inch MacBook Pro and MacBook Air This Year, 14.1-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro Models Next Year
At last month's WWDC, Apple officially announced that its Mac computers will be transitioned from Intel x86 to homegrown Apple Silicon chips....
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That’s the thing, we just don’t know. Unfortunately (or fortunately) good leaks on the Mac stuff seem few and far between compared to other Apple stuff.
It appears (according to Gurman) we’re going to get the current lineup (Air, 13“ & 16”) refreshed with Apple Silicon chips first, so like @Falhófnir says, if they do that now, it could be Q4 next year by the time there’s a full re-design with new screen tech etc.
It appears (according to Gurman) we’re going to get the current lineup (Air, 13“ & 16”) refreshed with Apple Silicon chips first, so like @Falhófnir says, if they do that now, it could be Q4 next year by the time there’s a full re-design with new screen tech etc.
I would guess the iPhone cycle dictates the chip upgrades for Macs to an extent, so if the redesign is in Q4 2021 they can put an A15-derived chip in it.
It doesn’t make sense to me that they would launch an A14-like notebook next week and then re-launch the same A14 in a different enclosure in the spring.
I guess the
Part of the unknown is what they’re going to do with the others. Can’t wait to see what they show next week.
I agree though, an upgrade now and then again in the Spring seems unlikely.
We’re assuming the iPhone/iPad chip or a derivative of it will go in the Air?
Part of the unknown is what they’re going to do with the others. Can’t wait to see what they show next week.
I agree though, an upgrade now and then again in the Spring seems unlikely.
Not literally the same chip as the iPhone, but for example the same CPU and GPU cores in greater quantity.
I think it makes sense that Apple starts with the smaller (13") MacBook Pro and the MacBook Air. Don't forger the whole transition will take 2 years (as confirmed by Apple themselves).
I think at Tuesdays event Apple will focus on the MBP and MacBook Air 13". They will talk more about Apple Silicon, probably show off some of it's features in relation to developer apps (Microsoft have recently updated their Office suit for Apple Silicon). The event will likely last an hour (just like the last two events) and a large portion of that will be Apple talking up their new Apple chips. I doubt we will see redesigned Macs.
I think at Tuesdays event Apple will focus on the MBP and MacBook Air 13". They will talk more about Apple Silicon, probably show off some of it's features in relation to developer apps (Microsoft have recently updated their Office suit for Apple Silicon). The event will likely last an hour (just like the last two events) and a large portion of that will be Apple talking up their new Apple chips. I doubt we will see redesigned Macs.
Been pointed out to me that likely to be just iPhone pre-orders. Really annoying when trying check out MacBook Pro buying options
In the Swedish store they took the opportunity to raise prices, 34999 kr to 35092 for higher-end 16”.
I was just curious that will the Apple Silicon version of MacBook Pro 13 and MacBook Air ship with same processor?
I don't expect so, they will probably use the two to show off what Apple Silicon can do when customised for different priorities (cool, or even fanless running and power efficiency in the Air, and for more grunt in the Pro).
Well, Apple left folks waiting for a updated 16" totally in the dark --
Still stuck waiting ;-(
Robert
Still stuck waiting ;-(
Robert
Agreed, I'm waiting around for an upgrade, too. Likely to get the last best Intel MBP and wait out the awkward transition season.
That said, looking at what they demoed today and what is shipping today across Intel/AMD... I'm kinda glad they didn't rev the MBP16 today. I need >32GB of RAM and want as much GPU as they can give me, and while M1 looks interesting, I'd be much more interested in 64GB, 8+4 cores, and a discrete GPU. Which probably means Intel for now.
End of 2020/21Q1 *could possibly* have Tiger Lake-H, or RDNA2 (Radeon Pro 6000), and I'd love to see either or both. Even AMD doesn't have Ryzen 5000H even rumored quite yet, they're expected to be announcing 5000U class processors in January.
Or maybe we just get a press-release rev to Comet Lake-H next week, to avoid taking the shine off of today's event. I don't know. But I was encouraged a bit by their reiteration that 'it'll take a couple of years'. Because that means that they know they've got to keep supporting Intel for a while yet.