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Waiting for the 2020 MBP
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Yes. They have larger screen sizes. The 21” is 4K and the 27” is 5k. The PPI of those screens is close to that of the MBPs.
My point was that 4K looks fine on the 21' iMac, so why would it be bad on the MacBook? I am sure it can be done.
I think what he's saying is that because although the native resolution of the display is 4k, or 5k in my 27s case, you don't actually view the UI as 4k pixel per pixel, it scales the resolution to make everything look larger but still sharp. If you need to see exactly what we're talking about go to your display settings and change the scaling to the 4k resolution, everything will be so small that you won't be able read anything. I personally keep my 27" monitors at 1440p scaling, you get the "retina" sharpness you're looking for with plenty of screen real estate without needing a magnifying glass to actually see things.
Given their obcession with thinness I would not expect a fully operational keyboard anytime soon.
I would assume a keyboard based on haptic feedback solves the ”issue”, from their perspective. Please welcome Generation Arthritis, with fingers stiff and swollen due to writing on a hard surface. Also, creative story tellers will soon start talking about another brand.
Why do some (most?) of us hate it?
Well, from objective point of view:
- it brings nothing to the table that can't be done with normal keys and keyboard shortcuts
- uses battery life
- kinda hard to see in daylight
- you have to look away from the screen to actually use it
- no physical feedback at all
- incidental touches
- it's low-res and pixelated
From subjective point of view:
It's a useless gimmick. A solution in search of the problem. I'll always adjust brightness/volume faster with regular F-keys, because I know in memory where those are, I don't have to look away from the screen to use F-keys. Further more, if I don't touch my keyboard for a short while, touch bar will turn off to save battery life, and probably to prevent burn in. So in order to use it, I first have to touch any of my keys or touchpad. So it slows me down even more.
And as a developer, I loose F-keys completely, something I use more often then regular folks.
I have yet to see why something like touch bar is better then regular keys. If you like it - great for you. But I don't plan on purchasing any device with touchbar in the future, because it's a major gimmick in my use case scenario. If Apple wants to compete with touch screen laptops, well, build a touch screen laptop.
Have you ever actually used a 4K laptop? I'm using one (X1E). There really is no need for 4K on any laptop. 2K is great, because it won't use battery as much, and you still don't see any pixels. My 4K screen isn't better then MBP screen, but uses more power for no gains at all.
Apple is right in sticking to 2K (well, almost 3K), and I will always give credit where credit is due.
They have done it a few times in the past, the 2012 Macbook Pro was updated early and then they announced the Macbook Pro Retina at WWDC 2012. Then in 2013 there were "Early" and "late" models for that year. In fact going back to as early as 2009, they use to update the Macbook Pro twice a year.
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2020. The year of full touch keyboards, ARM CPUs and screens with burn in issues.
What’s strange about the current generation is that they have a very complicated and expensive keyboard and also an expensive and complicated Touch Bar. Actually the worst of both worlds.
Not as predictable as for iPhones, but I would cautiously suggest the following:
October event 2019 - 16" slots in above the 15" as a new high end model, starting at $3,299. Mac Pro, Pro display officially introduced after being teased at WWDC.
WWDC 2020 - 16" rolled out fully to replace the 15" entirely, 14" introduced to replace 13" touchbar, maybe the 13" nTB continues as the 13" pro as a cheaper quad core option, particularly if a price increase comes with the redesign (but goes back to starting at 256GB/$1,499 to give the Air more room to breathe).
October event 2020 - First ARM MacBook/Airs are introduced.
Guys, there won’t be another MacBook Pro in 2019 lol.
That looks like a terribly designed laptop.
Watching him trying to use that ugly monstrosity...
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My assumption is that if Apple ever moves to its own line of CPUs (and my guess is that those should be dedicated Mac CPUs and not re-used iPhone CPUs, with a much larger battery, and better power dissipation in mind) than they introduce it with the re-design and that could be 2020. Historically there have been longer than usual delays for re-designs than pure upgrades.
I just watched the whole announcement of this.
The new RTX GPU’s are exactly what I want / need and yes targeted at creative pros like myself.
However, have a look at the laptops for the ‘creatives’. I don’t know a single person who would buy any of them. Hideous gaming designs or gimmicks everywhere. It would be an embarrassment to bring one of those to a client meeting.
I am not sure if these people get it or not, but all the creatives I know put ease of use and aesthetics pretty high up on the list, before specs. They wont be sucked in by these designs at all.
It was also interesting how the comparative computer was the Macbookpro against the RTX. Suffice to say the MBP got spanked.
Buying a new MacBookpro just became a bit harder for me........ just when I resolved to get one. I also have no doubt what so ever that the 2020 / October MBP will have a GPU anything like the RTX.
Yeah I'd say 2020 redesign is inbound.. I wouldn't expect the 10nm Intel refresh this year either... Same for Navi GPUs....