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iPad Pro Waiting on bezel size reduction on the 12.9" iPad Pro...
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The key here is not the bezels per se but the lower weight of a reduced form factor overall (allowed by reduced bezels, slightly smaller screen, smaller batteries, etc).
1.5lbs too much for a tablet these days. 1 1/4 lbs would be great.
I buy the 12.9 for the size of it's screen. If the hardware was to change I would vote for a slightly larger screen in the same footprint, kind of as they have done with the 10.5.
Correct on the first part, I think 18 months is the minimum cycle for now. Probably 18 months plus delays.
No Force Touch. That much is certain. Apple sees force touch as something you use on a device that you're holding with the same or other hand (phone) or wrist (Watch), so you can provide a "force" with one part of your body to contrast the force you put on the screen. Alternatively, with a laptop, you're pressing into the desk, or whatever surface the laptop is resting against. But the iPad is designed for a use mode where it's sitting on a surface with a Smart Cover or keyboard. Use force touch against the upright display and you slide it right away from you. That's called samsung design.
It may be that the 12.9 display size has run its course, but if it gets replaced, it will be replaced by something larger that fits in (almost) the same shell as the current 12.9 -- just like it happened for the 9.7->10.5 transition. I doubt Apple will give up on the large (12"+) iPad format, because its claims that the iPad is a laptop replacement rest 100% on that model, not on the smaller, eBook-reading tablet. (And don't get me wrong, I own and love both!)
This is a good point. My feeling though is that they will trim it if they can, simply because that is the design direction. The ratios you provide make sense, but obviously on the bigger iPad those bezel are still bigger, arguably unnecessarily so from an engineering viewpoint.
I can't disagree that Apple won't do this do this. But is it more out of philosophy than hardware and software?
I own two iPads the last generation iPad Pros. I love them but recently my employer equipped me with a 13" MacBook Pro and external LCD screen (replacing a late 2009 15" MBP). I've been taking the laptop to off campus meetings, and have found it serves my needs a little better than my keyboard equipped iPads ( have not yet tried tethering to my iPhone).
I guess that is why I'm interested in a "Frankenstein" piece of hardware is I find both the iPad and MacBook Pro laptops so useful for business and personal use.
I bet it will be harder to make a decision of which device to take out the door when OS11 gets released.
I own two iPads the last generation iPad Pros. I love them but recently my employer equipped me with a 13" MacBook Pro and external LCD screen (replacing a late 2009 15" MBP). I've been taking the laptop to off campus meetings, and have found it serves my needs a little better than my keyboard equipped iPads ( have not yet tried tethering to my iPhone).
I guess that is why I'm interested in a "Frankenstein" piece of hardware is I find both the iPad and MacBook Pro laptops so useful for business and personal use.
I bet it will be harder to make a decision of which device to take out the door when OS11 gets released.
Do you use your iPad mostly with keyboard and/or on a desk ? I ask because I think Apple should develop a clamshell keyboard or a larger keyboard for such uses.
Logitech has nicer keyboards with function roll / shortcuts.
Indeed! Much lighter laptops (2-3lbs) coupled with much better battery life have significantly reduced the distance to tablets as it comes to convenience/portability.
Actually I almost never use a physical keyboard, and I mostly use it on my lap, too.
I use it as an alternative to books, as well as for browsing. When the comparison is this:
... the Pro is very light!
Possibly why I love the iPP 12.9 is because I've never been able to stand laptops. I absolutely hate trackpads, and it's not really convenient to attach and use a mouse sitting on the couch. I think having iOS where I can do my work stuff, as well as my entertainment is just the best of both worlds.
I think trackpads have their purpose. But the iPad Touch display eliminates the need for a track pad, Making a smaller, more compact keyboard for when someone actually needs it.
I always hated laptops too! I thought I was the only one! And once iPads became a thing, it just made me hate laptops more. The problem is that I hate actually using them as laptops. I usually dock them on my desk, and that's pretty much where they stay.
There was a 6-8 month period of time where I decided not to own an iPad at all. I sold my iPad Air 1 and used the money to get a 13" rMBP. I then started using it for all the same things I used to use my iPad for, and it was a nightmare. It ran far too hot for me to use it in bed, it was far too awkward to read books on, even at 13" it was was kind of a pain to tote around with me to different things, etc. I definitely had a major "what have I done?" moment and started missing my iPad a lot. That was right around the time the original iPad Pro came out, and I knew right then and there that I had to have one.
So now my company issued Macbook Air sits on my desk docked to all my peripherals and acts as a desktop machine that I do my day job on (and really only because I'm required to use a piece of Flash based software for my conference calls.) For everything else I do, for both content creation AND consumption, it's always going to be my 10.5" iPad Pro.