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want itunes 4 windows
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Why don't you switch? Apple has special discounts for students, educators, government employees, military. There are also lots of used and refurbished shops you can buy older Macs from and places you can buy them 6 months same as cash. And really there is no reason not to switch. They are faster, more compatible, and easier to use. Don't believe me? Visit http://www.macvspc.info/
I can't wait till iTunes comes to windows...altho by then i might have enough $$$ for a mac. Thats the only reason I haven't totally switched right now.
it has to be said...
the reason apple has windoze iPods use musicmatch...that silly little program, is because windoze programers never bothered to make a good windoze music player
surely without the potential revenue from the music store you didnt expect Apple to waste the resources to give windoze users an awesome music app that would just have to be changed in 6 months when microsuck revamped its $h!tty operating system
the reason apple has windoze iPods use musicmatch...that silly little program, is because windoze programers never bothered to make a good windoze music player
surely without the potential revenue from the music store you didnt expect Apple to waste the resources to give windoze users an awesome music app that would just have to be changed in 6 months when microsuck revamped its $h!tty operating system
Re: want itunes 4 windows
iJon
haha, what else do you want them to use, not much else better. i spent forever trying to get my friends music on his windows ipod. it was a bitch, it will all be solved when he gets the complete hookup like me with the 12 inch powerbook.Originally posted by toughboy
i'm so jealous of people using itunes on their macs.. i'm a windows XP user and want itunes too... why does apple use a silly program like "musicmatch" for its lovely iPod?
are they trying to make us all "switchers"?
iJon
Okay then, I want one of the new Caddy transmissions in my Chevy, but I don't want to buy a caddy. They should just make a transmission that fits in my car, so I can have the greatest features without having to pay for the whole car like everyone else...
you'll get your iTunes 4 eventually... until then, nah nah nah nah nah, nah.
pnw
you'll get your iTunes 4 eventually... until then, nah nah nah nah nah, nah.
pnw
I think this fellow's website exaggerates many of his points to an extreme degree. I mean, Macs are generally more stable, but with black boxes from Dell hovering around the $500 range, how can schools with their backs against the wall resist? Hardware has become such a commodity nowadays that it would be cheaper to do what some companies that run Linux server farms do when a machine goes down: unplug it, toss it, and replace it. And as someone who uses both platforms on a regular basis, Windows XP is a fairly stable and very usable OS.
They can resist because XP isn't as stable as you think. Plus it violates privacy needs with its required activation. XP also is a pain to setup for wireless encryption compared to the Mac. XP is nowhere as secure as the Mac. XP does not offer the same programmer tools you find in Linux or Mac OS X. If you buy a machine that's cheap, that's what you get, a cheap machine that is worthless. And it will ruin your productivity and require you to pay someone hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to maintain. You get a Mac OS X machine, it practically maintains itself. That's the cost savings.
please, violates privacy. if your pirating it you may have to worry. all you do is enter your serial and you click a button and it activates your windows, if you pirate windows than you may have a problem. they are just fighting piracy because they dont want their software stolen like any other company.
iJon
Uh, not exactly. I certainly agree that people who, for example, object to the DRM that Apple built into the iTunes Music Store are complaining about restrictions that only someone pirating music would have a big problem with (well, unless you are computer illiterate and don't understand how to deauthorize iTunes when you get a new computer...but you are unlikely to be *that* computer illiterate if you are on this forum).
However, the Microsoft DRM implementations go FAR beyond things like what Apple is doing with the iTunes Music Store. For example, many Windows users may be surprised to learn that when the installed Windows Media Player 6.1 (I believe that was the version), they gave Microsoft permission to remotely install ANY type of DRM software that Microsoft wants on their computer without even having to NOTIFY the user that they are doing this. So Microsoft can simply, for example, install software on your computer at any time they want that would prevent you from playing back MP3s, even if those MP3s are all legally obtained (e.g. ripped from CDs you own). And they wouldn't even have to tell you that they were doing this. Now, I'm not necessarily saying that they will do this, but I sure am not saying that they won't either! The point is that they can (via the Windows Media Player EULA), and, at the end of the day, nobody has ever lost money by betting for Microsoft and against its customers and competitors...
well i was talking about activation, same thing you were talkin about. you never said anythign about windows media player, which is a whole nother story, and i would agree with you on that stuff. but as for the activation when you install windows, who cares, i sure dont.
iJon
did you hear about the word "service"???
did anybody hear about the word "service" or "public service"??? its made for free, for satisfaction of the community.....
if apple satisfies a PC user like me as a service, maybe i'll be glad and go and buy a mac for myself...
think about this ok?!..
Originally posted by paulwhannel
Okay then, I want one of the new Caddy transmissions in my Chevy, but I don't want to buy a caddy. They should just make a transmission that fits in my car, so I can have the greatest features without having to pay for the whole car like everyone else...
you'll get your iTunes 4 eventually... until then, nah nah nah nah nah, nah.
pnw
did anybody hear about the word "service" or "public service"??? its made for free, for satisfaction of the community.....
if apple satisfies a PC user like me as a service, maybe i'll be glad and go and buy a mac for myself...
think about this ok?!..
Re: it has to be said...
i disagree - WinAmp is the best windows MP3 player as its so damn fast and there are some wikid skins and plugins out there that can get it doing most of what iTunes does (admittedly, its a bit more effort). I use Winamp 2 (3's a bit crappy IMHO) with AltoMP3 for ripping. My recommended plugins:
TransPlug 1.2 - transparency (v.good for windowshade mode + always on top - see attatched)
Resumer Plugin (resumes last state of play)
NullSoft Winamp Library - great for organising MP3s
...plus heaps of others (like the AAC plugin).
Winamp is great because its very fast, very small, extremely customisable/extendable. iPod support is supposed to be coming soon too (see here)
Originally posted by uhlawboi80
the reason apple has windoze iPods use musicmatch...that silly little program, is because windoze programers never bothered to make a good windoze music player
i disagree - WinAmp is the best windows MP3 player as its so damn fast and there are some wikid skins and plugins out there that can get it doing most of what iTunes does (admittedly, its a bit more effort). I use Winamp 2 (3's a bit crappy IMHO) with AltoMP3 for ripping. My recommended plugins:
TransPlug 1.2 - transparency (v.good for windowshade mode + always on top - see attatched)
Resumer Plugin (resumes last state of play)
NullSoft Winamp Library - great for organising MP3s
...plus heaps of others (like the AAC plugin).
Winamp is great because its very fast, very small, extremely customisable/extendable. iPod support is supposed to be coming soon too (see here)
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its NOT a "public service" which implies it is available to the public at large and an item the public has a RIGHT to. like sewage.
now, it IS a service, but there are plenty of services that you dont get to access to. Its not your right as a computer user in general to any service that is out there. You may WANT access to the service, but that doesnt mean you have a right to it.
that being said, im sure Apple is trying to make the service available to more people, but right now foreign MAC users still can't use the service, so im sure foreign windoze users are on the a$$ end of their concern list.
now, it IS a service, but there are plenty of services that you dont get to access to. Its not your right as a computer user in general to any service that is out there. You may WANT access to the service, but that doesnt mean you have a right to it.
that being said, im sure Apple is trying to make the service available to more people, but right now foreign MAC users still can't use the service, so im sure foreign windoze users are on the a$$ end of their concern list.
The issue isn't the activation itself, that's a rather painless procedure, the issue is why should we have to activate it in the first place?
so microsoft can protect there os. i remember when service pack 1 came out and it stopped alot of people from updating because the pirated. it even stopped me, you could do some things to get around it, which were annoying. my friends bro works for microsoft so i had him order me a xp pro for like 10 bucks and it was better. microsoft is just trying to protect your investments. im sure activation would be annoying if you had to call them, but over the net is simple.
iJon
I know they are and I'm not disputing that, the issue for me is how they decided to protect them, the activation procedure isn't much to worry about like I said, its pretty straightforward and painless, I have a (legal) copy of XP and every time I have to reinstall, I have to put in this insanely long serial which is no biggie as long as I can find it and then I have to activate it over ther internet, otherwise I can only use it for 30 days before it deactivates itself and I can't log on.
I have no problem with MS protecting their investments, I just have a problem with how they go about doing it.
well think of other countries
we all want to swich to apple but me and toughboy are from Turkey and there are really few mac users here. its imposibble to get educational discounts on powerbooks and powermacs we all collect money to get a 2500 $ powerbook
we all want to swich to apple but me and toughboy are from Turkey and there are really few mac users here. its imposibble to get educational discounts on powerbooks and powermacs we all collect money to get a 2500 $ powerbook
Re: well think of other countries
Complain to Apple Turkey:
http://www.bilkom.com.tr/
Check if they have an educational office. I wish I spoke Turkish, but that's their website.
Originally posted by phantommaul
we all want to swich to apple but me and toughboy are from Turkey and there are really few mac users here. its imposibble to get educational discounts on powerbooks and powermacs we all collect money to get a 2500 $ powerbook
Complain to Apple Turkey:
http://www.bilkom.com.tr/
Check if they have an educational office. I wish I spoke Turkish, but that's their website.
iTunes will look so dorky in Windows, QT does and it even has the brushed metal. And no drop shadow, unless you have winshade or something like that.
Don't cheat yourself and wait for the windows version, just buy a $600 iBook off eBay and have some fun w/ the real thing!
Don't cheat yourself and wait for the windows version, just buy a $600 iBook off eBay and have some fun w/ the real thing!