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http://www.warhammeronline.com/mac/
Here is the link to the news about it.

Its a cider port

About WAR Mac Version

WAR for the Mac is made possible using the CiderTM Portability Engine from TransGaming (TSX-V: TNG) that acts as a "wrapper" around the game software, enabling it to run seamlessly on Intel-based Macs. TransGaming's Cider technology allows Mythic Entertainment to rapidly enable and deploy WAR for the Mac, providing a new high quality gaming experience to the ever-growing Mac gaming community.

Here are the system specs
Minimum System Requirements

* Mac OS X 10.5.3 Leopard or higher
* Intel Core Duo Processor
* 2 Gigabyte RAM
* ATI X1600 or NVidia 7300 GT with 128 MB of Video RAM
* At least 15 GB of hard drive space for installation.
* This game will not run on PowerPC (G3/G4/G5) based Mac systems (PowerMac).
* Supported Video Cards
o ATI Radeon(TM) series
o X1600, X1900, HD 2400, HD 2600, 3870
o NVIDIA GeForce series
o 7300, 7600, 8600, 8800
o This game will not run on the GMA 950 class of integrated video cards.


Now most importantly...do you care?
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Must... resist... the warhammer... *twitch*

I have a level 15/16 or something that I had while playing via bootcamp... I think I have the willpower to resist... I think...
 
I tried it for a month on the PC after I quit WoW and although I felt it had possibilities it didn't hold my interest very long. The one good thing about this though is that more companies are trying to bring Mac to the MMO world.
 
I dont' care that much, as I'm a terrible WoW addict. Also I tried the trial on Bootcamp and wasn't very impressed, especially at the animation and texture quality, which were terribly bad compared to other modern MMORPG's like LoTRO. Of course graphics don't make the game but it's odd how it looks much worse than WoW which is much older.
 
I played this game from very early beta until about 2 months after release. I'll just say the game launched with over 30 North American servers and they're down to about 11 right now (with only 3 being really popular).

Tier 1 (levels 1 thru about 12ish) are probably the most fun IMO and then the game goes downhill the higher you get. I quit playing back in November with hopes of coming back later but with each patch I get more and more uninterested. It's fairly certain I won't ever play this game again.

Hopefully some of you guys will have a better experience than I did with WAR. Maybe I'll even give my account away. :D
 
Most MMOs I've seen of this type are just trying to duplicate WoW in some form hoping to scoop up a decent subscription base. The problem is that unless there is something that makes it stand out, WoW has done it better. So, how is Warhammer better than WoW? How is it worse?

1. Graphics (WoW A+ because those graphics are good while forgiving with older/slower systems)
2. Content (WoW A+)
3. Game Play/Mechanics (WoW B)
4. PVP (Wow C+)/PVE (WoW B+)
5. Lore (WoW A)
6. Environment. WoW A+)
7. Dungeons (WoW A)
8. Quest Variety (WoW B)
9. Crafting (WoW B- not too hard)
 
Most MMOs I've seen of this type are just trying to duplicate WoW in some form hoping to scoop up a decent subscription base. The problem is that unless there is something that makes it stand out, WoW has done it better. So, how is Warhammer better than WoW? How is it worse?

1. Graphics (WoW A+ because those graphics are good while forgiving with older/slower systems)
2. Content (WoW A+)
3. Game Play/Mechanics (WoW B)
4. PVP (Wow C+)/PVE (WoW B+)
5. Lore (WoW A)
6. Environment. WoW A+)
7. Dungeons (WoW A)
8. Quest Variety (WoW B)
9. Crafting (WoW B- not too hard)

WoW also has about 4 more years of development time when compared to WAR. At any rate, Mythic had a pretty good foundation to build on with WAR but they totally dropped the ball IMO.
 
Most MMOs I've seen of this type are just trying to duplicate WoW in some form hoping to scoop up a decent subscription base. The problem is that unless there is something that makes it stand out, WoW has done it better. So, how is Warhammer better than WoW? How is it worse?

1. Graphics (WoW A+ because those graphics are good while forgiving with older/slower systems)
2. Content (WoW A+)
3. Game Play/Mechanics (WoW B)
4. PVP (Wow C+)/PVE (WoW B+)
5. Lore (WoW A)
6. Environment. WoW A+)
7. Dungeons (WoW A)
8. Quest Variety (WoW B)
9. Crafting (WoW B- not too hard)

I don't like Warhammer either, but your ratings are way off... especially for graphics... Graphics in WoW looked old before it was even released. I don't care for the Warhammer graphics either, but at least the textures are sharper.
 
I'm on a trial for WAR using boot camp so this is great news to me since I've been really enjoying it. I am subbed in WoW but I really like WAR's pvp, very casual but fun. I have a feeling the cider port will knock down the FPS quite a bit but that's fine since I lower mine for my MB anyway in terms of heat. The patcher is going oh so slowly though, so it probably won't be until Saturday I can give a mini review. Although someone over at the warhammer boards said it was definitely lower FPS than in boot camp. which was a given - but he said it was playable.
 
FINALLY!


I really don't need another MMO to suck up my time though, been thinking about renewing my WoW sub and now my WAR sub when the mac version is released
 
Downloading the trial client now.

I'm very sceptical about the Cider part though. My iMac with ATI 2600Pro really strugled when I tried the PC trial version, and I expect it to be unplayable under Cider.
 
If you guys have this on bootcamp you can pretty much copy over all the .myp files and then let the patcher finish up. Cider part does suck though it's a bit slower than Boot camp for sure, but I'll have to really test it out later w/ some PvP etc.
 
Got it running last night and didn't care for it. Left reviews for my build under the name Exaiphnes on their forums. Being a cider wrap, you know it won't run nearly as well as on PC side

Here's the bugs and feedback forum for the mac beta, check it out to see how others got it running using your same build
http://forums.warhammeronline.com/warhammer/board?board.id=bug_mac

Here was the official post about the mac release. Some guy posted how to just transfer files from bootcamp over to mac side so you don't have to spend 6 hours DLing and updating
http://forums.warhammeronline.com/w...aldnews&message.id=2128&query.id=102114#M2128
 
Oh that's really cool. I'll definitely give it a try. I did like the beta.

But... CIDER!!! :{

After reading further about the performance it doesn't seem to be worth it.

Damn Cider, wish it didn't exist so that maybe they would spend some time converting it to a proper Mac format instead of milking money from people and having it run at terrible frames. Better have nothing than a pile of turd.
 
I don't like Warhammer either, but your ratings are way off... especially for graphics... Graphics in WoW looked old before it was even released. I don't care for the Warhammer graphics either, but at least the textures are sharper.

I think people have different ways of evaluating graphics... I look at design, color, and animation primarily, I don't care much about texture sharpness. Blizzard has some great design, and their character animations are better than any MMO I've played.

Also, I can run WoW with settings almost maxed in Bootcamp, and it looks much better that what I had to use to run WAR, textures and all.

To me, WAR was just a re-hash of WoW, down to the Blood Elf architecture in the dwarf starting area. I'm ready for something new, and WAR isn't it.
 
Sooo frustrating download.

First it was really slow. Took about 12h to reach 2,9 gigs out of 5,9, and I got 24M connection. Now it seems to be stuck at that 2,9 gigs.

I think I'm gonna give up.

To me, WAR was just a re-hash of WoW, down to the Blood Elf architecture in the dwarf starting area. I'm ready for something new, and WAR isn't it.
Actually Warcraft universe is a clone of Warhammer. Blizzard designed the first Warcraft game, way back few million years ago, to be a Warhammer computer game, but there was a quite confusing licensing mixup. Due to that, Blizzard renamed the game from Warhammer to Warcraft, and the rest is history. They kept the design otherwise same, and that's why Warhammer and Warcraft universerses and graphics look similar.
 
Actually Warcraft universe is a clone of Warhammer. Blizzard designed the first Warcraft game, way back few million years ago, to be a Warhammer computer game, but there was a quite confusing licensing mixup. Due to that, Blizzard renamed the game from Warhammer to Warcraft, and the rest is history. They kept the design otherwise same, and that's why Warhammer and Warcraft universerses and graphics look similar.

My right eye twitches a little every time I hear someone say that Warhammer is a ripoff of Warcraft.
 
My right eye twitches a little every time I hear someone say that Warhammer is a ripoff of Warcraft.

Fine, as an IP Warhammer was first, but the MMO that they eventually made out of it is a rehash of a 5-year-old game that was originally based on the Warhammer IP.

I'm surprised the Warhammer people didn't sue... because they invented elves and dwarves... right?:rolleyes:

edit: I wonder how the Warhammer people feel about their decision to axe the Blizzard Warhammer game, if that's how it went down.
 
Fine, as an IP Warhammer was first, but the MMO that they eventually made out of it is a rehash of a 5-year-old game that was originally based on the Warhammer IP.

I'm surprised the Warhammer people didn't sue... because they invented elves and dwarves... right?:rolleyes:

edit: I wonder how the Warhammer people feel about their decision to axe the Blizzard Warhammer game, if that's how it went down.

Don't try to pull a reductio ad absurdum just because you don't have a good argument why Warhammer isn't a ripoff of Warcraft.
 
because they invented elves and dwarves... right?:rolleyes:

Warhammer obviously loans heavily from western fantasy mythology in general, and especially from Tolkiens interpretation of it. Then again, that could be said about pretty much all contemporary western fantasy.

However, Warhemmer universe had some unique features (green skinned orcs, making humour by owerblowing some of the cliches of western fanstasy like bleeding heart elfs, etc). Blizzard tried to make an Warhammer game, and flatout copied Warhammer universe. I'm not a fanboy either way, and as such don't really care. Objectively looking though, it's pretty silly to see all these teenage WOW fanbois calling Warhammer ripping off Warcraft.

I'm surprised the Warhammer people didn't sue...
Well this was mid/late 80's. Warhammer was table top miniature/dice RPG company. Their turnover at the time was propably bigger than Blizzard's, but still pretty miniscule. It was also time when the current global economy was still at infancy. I think it was way too big financial risk for a small british company to sue an american company, especially when it would have meant possible very risky and expensive litigation at american courts (scary even today for a small european company, let alone 20 years ago). Add to that, at the time computer games were a very small industry.

EDIT: Fixed some typos. Indo-European languages are a bitch to a brain programed for finno-ugric languages.
 
I've been playing Warhammer Online since BETA on my PC. Its a nice game with PVE and PVP aspects. Enough of both to keep u occupied.

If you choose to play a core server, I recommend Iron Rock. Its the most balanced in terms of Destruction vs Order (better for PVP).

If anyone has any questions about the game, feel free to send me a PM. I'm downloading the Mac Beta Client tonight to help with the testing.

Cheers.

One more thing, i have a guild started but its been inactive for months. I just have a few Alts in it to keep it listed. If anyone is interested and your new to the game, just contact me. I'd be happy to take in all new Mac players. Kind of like a Macrumors guild lol.
 
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