Warhammer online coming to the mac. Do you care?

[Huntn]

I don't like Warhammer either, but your ratings are way off... especially for graphics... Graphics in WoW looked old before it was even released. I don't care for the Warhammer graphics either, but at least the textures are sharper.

That's ok. I gave Wow high marks for graphics and mentioned as I did it, specifically because Northrend is beautiful and the game is forgiving with older hardware. I'm happy to admit however, that might not be a good enough reason to give it high graphic marks if you are judging graphics for graphics sake and segregating it from performance.

However, Warhemmer universe had some unique features (green skinned orcs, making humour by owerblowing some of the cliches of western fanstasy like bleeding heart elfs, etc). Blizzard tried to make an Warhammer game, and flatout copied Warhammer universe. I'm not a fanboy either way, and as such don't really care. Objectively looking though, it's pretty silly to see all these teenage WOW fanbois calling Warhammer ripping off Warcraft.

As Tolkien created or at least popularized the fantasy world of orcs, goblins, fairies, and elfs back in the 1930's, it would be hard to say that Warhammer and Warcraft are copies of each other, but more accurately they are copies of the The Hobbit/Lord of the Rings? I would think in any lawsuit, it would come down to "lore" and knowing nothing of Warhammer, I'd have to wonder are there any similarities in the two franchise's background stories?

BTW, I think the term "Hobbit" is protected intellectual property, but fairys, elfs, etc, have been around since forever handed down in folk lore and could not be protected in such a manner. But specific lore and places, as created by Blizzard or Warhammer, I'm sure is protected.

 

[PurpleCliff]

Mac beta client free trial download is at about 50% ... I'm looking forward to trying the game, and I'll post what I think here.
I've always been watching WAR, so much interesting stuff in it. The Mac client pushed me over the edge!!

 

[davwin]

Per the WAR boards you can copy the MYP files from your Windows Warhammer install over for the Mac install to speed up the install/patching process. By defaut these should be in the main Warhammer Online folder and on Mac they should be under: C_Drive > Warhammer Online folder within the Transgaming > Resources Folder when you Rt click on the WAR application and click on Show Contents.

Warning though - this is still very beta :/

 

[Signal-11]

As Tolkien created or at least popularized the fantasy world of orcs, goblins, fairies, and elfs back in the 1930's, it would be hard to say that Warhammer and Warcraft are copies of each other, but more accurately they are copies of the The Hobbit/Lord of the Rings? I would think in any lawsuit, it would come down to "lore" and knowing nothing of Warhammer, I'd have to wonder are there any similarities in the two franchise's background stories?

I don't think anyone's saying that Warcraft is a Warhammer ripoff. The one thing that's definitely true is that Warhammer is not a Warcraft ripoff.

Rhey draw from the same source. Obviously.

 

[neilg]

Not far in. Graphics are nice - more sophisticated than WoW - but I'm less impressed by the animation - I think Blizzard are one of the best animators around, a much under-estimated part of game design - their characters have proper weight and fluidity...
Missing the humour of WoW, too, though maybe that turns up later.
All in all though - nicely involving and feels like a proper world.
Stolid.

 

[mongrol]

Oh that's really cool. I'll definitely give it a try. I did like the beta.

But... CIDER!!! :{

After reading further about the performance it doesn't seem to be worth it.

Damn Cider, wish it didn't exist so that maybe they would spend some time converting it to a proper Mac format instead of milking money from people and having it run at terrible frames. Better have nothing than a pile of turd.

It's quite simple. If no one buys Cider games, Cider won't exist. Stop supporting companies using Cider and vote with your wallet.

 

[aznguyen316]

It's quite simple. If no one buys Cider games, Cider won't exist. Stop supporting companies using Cider and vote with your wallet.

The thing with this certain port is that you don't really buy a cider version of warhammer, you buy the regular PC retail and then you are able to use that key to just simply download the cider version. Which is nice to have access to both PC/Mac clients like blizzard games but cider sucks lol.

 

[Signal-11]

It's quite simple. If no one buys Cider games, Cider won't exist. Stop supporting companies using Cider and vote with your wallet.

What most of you anti-Cider guys are missing is that without Cider, even fewer games would be ported because a proper port is a lot of work.

I'd love me some 100% ported, OS X native games, but the reality is that it ain't gonna happen.

 

[mongrol]

What most of you anti-Cider guys are missing is that without Cider, even fewer games would be ported because a proper port is a lot of work.

I'd love me some 100% ported, OS X native games, but the reality is that it ain't gonna happen.

The reality is there would be slightly more native ports but the overall number of ports would be lower. Those who only purchase native ports would actually have more choice.

 

[Signal-11]

The reality is there would be slightly more native ports but the overall number of ports would be lower. Those who only purchase native ports would actually have more choice.

I think various Communist Parties would have loved you back in 1967. Less choice is more choice! Can't fail with a slogan like that.

 

[colocolo]

It's quite simple. If no one buys Cider games, Cider won't exist. Stop supporting companies using Cider and vote with your wallet.

I'd much rather have 100 games running at 25 fps than 40 games running at 50fps (or higher settings, or whatever makes the analogy work for you).
So bottom line, I'm all for Cider ports in the current scenario.

 

[PurpleCliff]

I MUCH prefer Cider ports to nothing.
The new WAR port is actually running pretty well for me ... and it's still in beta remember. Plus it'll be sped up with the new features in Slow Leopard, right?

 

[sinser]

I don't care about WAR, WOW is time consuming enough for me. However, WAR, to me, looks like a complete ripoff. Even the website is exactly the same than that of WOW.

WOW graphics are excellent IMO, I couldn't care less for edge cutting sharpness and prefer color and fantasy instead. Also a big fan of all Blizzard's music.

 

[PurpleCliff]

I don't care about WAR, WOW is time consuming enough for me. However, WAR, to me, looks like a complete ripoff. Even the website is exactly the same than that of WOW.

WOW graphics are excellent IMO, I couldn't care less for edge cutting sharpness and prefer color and fantasy instead. Also a big fan of all Blizzard's music.

Personally I feel like WAR is like WoW 1.5 ... the atmosphere is epic, the PvP matters, it looks awesome, and the whole soundtrack is of movie quality - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTJ3e_HR9Bk
I like WoW, always have, but WAR is just much more exciting to me

 

[daskindt]

Not far in. Graphics are nice - more sophisticated than WoW - but I'm less impressed by the animation - I think Blizzard are one of the best animators around, a much under-estimated part of game design - their characters have proper weight and fluidity...
Missing the humour of WoW, too, though maybe that turns up later.
All in all though - nicely involving and feels like a proper world.
Stolid.

There is a lot of humor, sometimes dark humor, in Warhammer.

In game, you'll see the sense of humor most if you play the Greenskins. The Greenskins are the most brutal of the races, but they're also the funniest by far. Very primitive and simple.

The quests, emotes, animations are all very funny, especially for goblins.

Playing either side of the Greenskin/Dwarf pairing will give you a better glimpse of the humorous side of WAR.

 

[Miharu]

Still nothing about the EU client...

 

[Sambo110]

If there is a trial, I can almost guarantee I will play it.

 

[Huntn]

I don't think anyone's saying that Warcraft is a Warhammer ripoff.

Matti did. See the quoted part of the my previous reply.

 

[Huntn]

What most of you anti-Cider guys are missing is that without Cider, even fewer games would be ported because a proper port is a lot of work.

I'd love me some 100% ported, OS X native games, but the reality is that it ain't gonna happen.

Unfortunately most/all ports are compromises. Something is going to be degraded. IMO if you are any where close to being a serious gamer with an Intel Mac, go with BootCamp/XP. The primary exception to that for myself is WoW.

 

[aznguyen316]

Unfortunately most/all ports are compromises. Something is going to be degraded. IMO if you are any where close to being a serious gamer with an Intel Mac, go with BootCamp/XP. The primary exception to that for myself is WoW.

agreed that is my main exception.. well I do play Peggle via Mac and in WoW lol

 

[PowerGamerX]

My simple reaction...

NO POWERPC SUPPORT

 

[Sambo110]

I've got the program that downloads WAR, but how big is the beta does anyone know? I'm guessing it's the size of the full game plus all patches?

 

[lannister80]

I don't think anyone's saying that Warcraft is a Warhammer ripoff. The one thing that's definitely true is that Warhammer is not a Warcraft ripoff.

Rhey draw from the same source. Obviously.

OK, Warhammer Age of Reckoning is a ripoff of World of Warcraft. Happy?

Plus I love how it took them, what, 10 months to come out with a Cider port? I've played unofficial Cider ports that were released not too long after the PC game was, and those were done by a few enterprising amateurs...

 

[lannister80]

What most of you anti-Cider guys are missing is that without Cider, even fewer games would be ported because a proper port is a lot of work.

I'd love me some 100% ported, OS X native games, but the reality is that it ain't gonna happen.

Yes, and there would be more original, Mac-only games. But since deploying a Cider version of a game is "easy", all we'll ever get are 2nd-rate ports.

6oz fillet minion vs 2lbs of hamburger

 

[Signal-11]

Yes, and there would be more original, Mac-only games. But since deploying a Cider version of a game is "easy", all we'll ever get are 2nd-rate ports.

6oz fillet minion vs 2lbs of hamburger

I don't think so. You guys who think there would be original Mac games even approaching the scale of the high quality indy studios need to share your bud, because that's some good smoke.

It simply doesn't work that way.