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No button usage is necessary. When in the running activity (for instance) you can simply swipe right to bring up the watchface display for the activity timing (see image below). There are well marked icons to tap to end, or to pause, or to "segment" which is the lap timer. It works very well and is easy.

Not easy at all, nigh on impossible if it's pouring rain or you've just given it your all and are a sweaty knackered mess! That's when touchscreen buttons are useless and you need buttons.
 
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I'm thinking of going this route. I've worn a Fitbit Sense, Garmin Forerunner 265, and an Apple Watch Ultra2 for workouts. They all underperform, but in different ways for HR tracking.

I didn't even realize they made armband HR trackers. How accurate are those and do you have a preference between arm or chest strap? Any suggestions for a basic no frills HR monitor for a simple fitness runner?

The new armbands give pretty good accuracy but they're still optical! For the best accuracy I would go chest strap as they read the electrical impulses from your heart.

Some say the chest straps are a little more uncomfortable to wear but they don't bother me at all so I go with them.
 
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I've been a Garmin user since the big, boxy Forerunner 101. The number one thing that keeps me with Garmin over an Apple or Android watch is battery life. Charging my Venu 2 every 5 to 7 days is where I want to be. I'd love to try an AW Ultra, but I want the better battery life Garmin delivers.

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The new armbands give pretty good accuracy but they're still optical! For the best accuracy I would go chest strap as they read the electrical impulses from your heart.

Some say the chest straps are a little more uncomfortable to wear but they don't bother me at all so I go with them.

Oh... of course. Armbands would have to be optical. Chest strap it is. Got any favorite chest straps to recommend? Not needing anything fancy.
 
I'm doing a block of marathon training using the Apple Watch Series 6 as my only training watch. Works great for my needs. I often use a HR chest strap from Garmin that I originally bought for my bike computer (a Garmin Edge 530) as it gives more accurate and instant results than any optical HR meter can, but on easier rides and runs I just use the watch's sensor without any issues. I moved away from a Garmin watch in order to have Apple Music and my podcasts always with me as I prefer to not bring a phone with me unless I'm far away from home. I have the GPS only version and just download what I want to bring (podcasts update automatically of course).

Garmin devices/serivces have more training features built in, but with the Apple Watch it is easy to install any thing you like to replace those capabilities. My three current favorites are WorkOutDoors for general activities (and for downloading trail maps to the watch), Athlytic for tracking recovery and sleep, and Runna for my structured marathon training. Then of course there are other good apps like Apple's Workouts and Strava.

I just got the battery replaced on my 4 year old Series 6 and it can easily handle 3-4 hours of running without me worrying about the battery. If I have my phone with me the battery will last much longer as the iPhone is used for the GPS tracking.
 
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Not easy at all, nigh on impossible if it's pouring rain or you've just given it your all and are a sweaty knackered mess! That's when touchscreen buttons are useless and you need buttons.
I guess we just will disagree. Certainly I have no difficulty swiping right to the pause/end/segment display, and I have used the AW in every possible weather condition since v1 AW. Like I said, I tolerate +/- one or two seconds, no problem. If I want more precise accuracy (e.g. 100m times, which personally I never need), I would use the stopwatch function, which on the AWUltra is either a display touch choice or a button; I still would use the display touch.

I would suggest that any runner buying an AW should buy the AW Ultra, any version. As to battery, I have never had an issue. IMO only an ultra runner exceeding ~18 hours run time might want a device with better battery life, but that is just a guess based on the fact that I have never personally had the AW Ultra [first version] run down the battery in less than ~ a 24-hour period, and also I have never trained at ultra distances. YMMV obviously, and newer versions of the AW Ultra have more modern batteries.

Qualifier: I liked the other AWs but absolutely love the AW Ultra. It suits me perfectly as a watch.
 
I have an AW ultra and a Garmin Fenix

Both are fantastic but they do different things.

AW is by far the best fitness watch.
Garmin is by far the best training watch.

I use AW to monitor my running, weight workouts, walking, HIIT sessions. It provides excellent quality feedback about my condition and performance. It offers me praise and celebration for the times I get up and actually do some thing. I am currently using it to monitor my training for the Paris Marathon.

My Garmin is amazing if I train for a half marathon, it builds a program for me, monitors my progress and adjusts it accordingly based on my performance. It doesn’t have a marathon programme!

But it is brutal. The times when I have finished a fourteen mile run only to see the one word feedback is UNPRODUCTIVE are particularly dark. It means that I should have done something else, fartlecks or whatever, I don’t care, I’ve just done two hours.

Battery life - inconsequential
If you use AW you will have got in the habit of charging every night. It’ll more than last.

Best thing. I run every Thursday, listening to my music and podcasts, to the pub, where I use Apple Pay to buy beer. All with my iPhone at home.
 
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There are situations where touching the screen isn't ideal or not possible. You may be sweaty, and this can prevent touch from registering, or it might be cold and you are wearing gloves. That is why the method of using the buttons to pause workouts exists at all -- for situations where touch doesn't work.
Just say "Hey Siri - Pause My Workout" - problem solved!
 
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A little background -



I have a 15 pro max I have AirPods



I run , especially on trails and like to use the OS Maps app, and sometimes All Trails to find my way around with routes



For the last few years I used a Garmin 945



Recently got a Coros Vertix 2s - too expensive for me brand new (close to £600) but got it for a good price second hand from an ebay store.



Coros is brilliant for battery life but I’m finding the user interface too fidgety. Maybe I’ll get used to it over time, I’m not sure .



I have a return window of just over a week left for the coros for a full refund



I was thinking of trying an Apple Watch instead. Never had one before but I know it will integrate with my iPhone and AirPods.



I was specifically thinking of getting a cheaper refurb Series 8 or 9.



Questions:

• ⁠any runners here which Apple Watch do you use and why?

• ⁠is the battery life good for trail runs and 10ks and HMs? When I’m out on the trails it’s typically around 2 hours.

• ⁠can I use All Trails or OS Maps on the watch to show me directions of a loaded up route ?

• ⁠on a WiFi only version can I load up a specific podcast episode or episodes , leave the phone behind and use AirPods to listen to the episode ? I’m specifically thinking just 30 mins walks where I don’t want to take the phone with me
Battery is fine with 6 ish hours most of the time. If you want uploaded GPX routes to be able to follow, buy the WorkOutDoors app for $4.99, and it’ll give you a Garmin-like interface, and followable GPX routes, as well as insanely vast data customisation options.
 
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I'm thinking of going this route. I've worn a Fitbit Sense, Garmin Forerunner 265, and an Apple Watch Ultra2 for workouts. They all underperform, but in different ways for HR tracking.

I didn't even realize they made armband HR trackers. How accurate are those and do you have a preference between arm or chest strap? Any suggestions for a basic no frills HR monitor for a simple fitness runner?
I am not a big fan of armband trackers. I used them few years back at orange theory and life time. AW or my polar was much better than those. Chest straps are just too uncomfortable for me. In the end there are always trade offs.
 
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