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xtshabi

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Max heart rate, minus 60-70%. I can't find the calculator at present but my training routine was arranged by my cousin who is former world champion thai boxer and now a trainer. Ive lost 4 stone and gained a lot of muscle mass, so I trust him. You can cycle all day long and not lose weight unless you hit your burning rate. I have tried both methods and my personal burning rate has worked. This is the wrong forum for this though. Goto bodybuilding.com forums

heres a good example. http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson178.htm

so many theories on this though, but for me it works. If your heart rate isn't high enough then your body doesn't break down fat, thats a simple fact.

Less than the fat burning range is still good for overall fitness and stanima of course.

Hmm yeah I suppose HIIT and various forms of high intensity cardio might be superior due to their longer lasting effects on metabolism.
In this case, heart rate would be a good readout, since low exertion probably isn't resulting in HIIT type effects.

How much fat have you lost and what's your BF% by which method?

But HIIT is similar to weight training anyhow.
 

Talkingtoaster

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Hmm yeah I suppose HIIT and various forms of high intensity cardio might be superior due to their longer lasting effects on metabolism.
In this case, heart rate would be a good readout, since low exertion probably isn't resulting in HIIT type effects.

How much fat have you lost and what's your BF% by which method?

But HIIT is similar to weight training anyhow.


22% (fat fu*ker) to 13%. You can see abs when 10% or less. I did running in a rubber suit and indoor cycle and weight training. Lots of special foods to eat, i lost track. From caffeine to oats to honey. I just did what I was told. It also depends on your body type, http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/becker3.htm

Im a mesmomorth so I'm lucky. Its a whole world of complication so I'm lucky to have guidance.

Are you looking to lose weight, out of interest. Are you weight lifting? Heavier weights for less reps. 8-10 before failure. Less weight and more reps builds only stanima. And protein is a must, I try and go for 1gram per pound of weight. Also depends on if your building or cutting. and too much protein becomes fat. Oh god its all so complicated, so many theories and opinions
 

xtshabi

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22% (fat fu*ker) to 13%. You can see abs when 10% or less. I did running in a rubber suit and indoor cycle and weight training. Lots of special foods to eat, i lost track. From caffeine to oats to honey. I just did what I was told. It also depends on your body type, http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/becker3.htm

Im a mesmomorth so I'm lucky. Its a whole world of complication so I'm lucky to have guidance.

Are you looking to lose weight, out of interest. Are you weight lifting? Heavier weights for less reps. 8-10 before failure. Less weight and more reps builds only stanima. And protein is a must, I try and go for 1gram per pound of weight. Also depends on if your building or cutting. and too much protein becomes fat. Oh god its all so complicated, so many theories and opinions

Ab definition obviously depends on body fat but also on training status.
An intermediate or advanced lifter will show abs (soft 4 or 6 pack) at relatively high body fat (15%), while a beginning lifter may not have six pack even at 10% body fat.
I used to be pretty fat (around 20% body fat) and I agree that it's a very very bad place to be aesthetically.

I train mainly to get strong and do the cutting/bulking for aesthetics.
It's a lot of fun.

Different studies seem to suggest different recommendations for daily protein requirements, but I tend to err on the side of less protein (1 g per lb of body weight only during caloric deficit), because I don't enjoy filling myself with protein all the time.
Getting more calories from fat and carb are just much more enjoyable.

By the way, caffeine is calorie free, so probably no need to track that ;)
 

BarracksSi

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I don't get all the hub-bub about the watch not having a dedicated weight lifting mode. I'm no body builder or trainer, but it's pretty obvious that the harder you work out and the more you lift, the faster your heart beats and more calories you burn. It's a pretty simple equation.
For me, it would be about the convenience of having my routine on my wrist. If I could see which movement I'm supposed to do next, and if I can input the weight and reps after each set, I'd be satisfied.

But, as noted, it can take a while to plan out a routine on a mobile app. The sheer variety of moves can be a hassle, too. (how many different "squats" are there, anyway?) And, since the watch screen is so small, it might be better to just keep using the phone to log the exercises anyway while the watch tracks HR and total time.
 

BlueMoon63

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For me, it would be about the convenience of having my routine on my wrist. If I could see which movement I'm supposed to do next, and if I can input the weight and reps after each set, I'd be satisfied.

But, as noted, it can take a while to plan out a routine on a mobile app. The sheer variety of moves can be a hassle, too. (how many different "squats" are there, anyway?) And, since the watch screen is so small, it might be better to just keep using the phone to log the exercises anyway while the watch tracks HR and total time.
Since I have used Fitness Builder for years already, it was nice that they added a watch app. You still start it on the phone but then the workout shows on the watch so you see all your exercises and can add reps and weights and even a timer for rest.

If they had a native app that and could load the workout so you don't have to start on your phone first, that would be great. Fitness builder is a high end lifting app though. I like it because I can create my own workouts and upload pictures beyond the 1000 they have.
 

Mac 128

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While I can appreciate the Watch as a wrist timer, and the potential of easily inputting reps and weight lifted, you will not find a single Watch in use at The Mecca of Bodybuilding. And that's very telling.
 

ericg301

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While I can appreciate the Watch as a wrist timer, and the potential of easily inputting reps and weight lifted, you will not find a single Watch in use at The Mecca of Bodybuilding. And that's very telling.

very telling that the Apple Watch is for regular people who want help tracking their fitness. if you're at the Mecca of BodyBuilding, you obviously know what you're doing and don't need it.
 

BlueMoon63

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very telling that the Apple Watch is for regular people who want help tracking their fitness. if you're at the Mecca of BodyBuilding, you obviously know what you're doing and don't need it.
Much like serious athletes would not count on the app watch as their only choice for a fitness device. At least I wouldn't. Serious weight lifters still use paper and pencil to log their workouts and avoid gadgets.
 

Dontcallmetiger

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Gymaholic and a heart rate monitor (polar h7 personally) is absolutely the best solution in my opinion for watch based tracking. It doesn't get in the way of any of my workouts, I'm confident that it is tracking accurately, and Gymaholic allows you to set your routines up then select them on the go without the iPhone being present. You can edit reps and weight from the watch app, plays nicely with apple health etc. try it out if you haven't as this was one of the main reasons I purchased an Apple Watch.
 
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midloman

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I've been using Gymaholic for a couple of weeks now, but got interested in Fit Weightlifting after seeing this thread. I downloaded the app, but now I have a question.

I'm trying to set up a workout in advance where I can enter the exercises, number of sets and the weight to lift. I can create the workout, I can add the sets and the reps, but I can't see how to add a weight. Can it not be entered in advance? Can you only enter the weight after you've done the exercise?

Maybe for the first time you have to enter what you do. The next time you have that exercise in a workout, will it show you number of sets/weight per set when you start the exercise?

Thanks.
 

x-evil-x

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I just use other but its never accurate. Average heart rate i get is 80-88 usually overall. Not that i care much i still log it every time I'm in the gym. If I'm on the stair stepper its accurate showing average hr around 125-135. Thats where my average heart rate should be for weight lifting but it hates all the movement.
 

BarracksSi

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Thats where my average heart rate should be for weight lifting but it hates all the movement.
It's not the movement, it's the blood vessel construction that throws off optical HR sensors. It'll work better with a chest strap.
 

liquidsuns

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The only time I have trouble with the hrm is during lifts that swell the forearm. Movement does not mess it up, it's the constriction of blood vessels and there isn't much Apple could do to fix this, that's just how optical sensors are.

I do a limited number of lifts right now but for me all cardio works fine, deadlifts, overhead presses, squats, and lunges work fine. Bench presses, pull ups and push-ups generally work good. Curls are a no go.
 

x-evil-x

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It's not the movement, it's the blood vessel construction that throws off optical HR sensors. It'll work better with a chest strap.
So nothing we can do then. Even when my veins in my forearms are crazy it's still ****. It reads better on the underside but not much. Not wearing a chest strap. I just basically go off my cardio numbers for heart rate and time calories burned and use that towards the lifting just slightly under.
 

lasniko

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Hi there,

If you select other in the built-in workout.app how do you set rest time between the reps/sets? Is there any option or you just start the workout and that's all?

Regards,
 

redavis41

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Hi there,

If you select other in the built-in workout.app how do you set rest time between the reps/sets? Is there any option or you just start the workout and that's all?

Regards,

You can't in the workout app unfortunately. Gymatic or some of the others mentioned here are your options if you're looking to add times in between intervals/sets.
 

lasniko

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May 24, 2015
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Well, I am going to keep it simple / minimal :)

I will use the built in workout app. It would be nice to have the “rest” option but ok.
 
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