Weird auto insert of the word “Paragraph” when using dictation

[0128672]

I’ve got a contact in the executives office who is asked me to email her with any long-standing issues. I think I’m gonna pointer in the direction of this. It’s been going on since 14.1 which is now months and absolutely nothing has been done about it.

Did anything happen as a result of your contact with the executive office?

 

[StumpyBloke]

They contacted me within 48 hours of the email and I have liaised with a number of technicians and we’ve done screen sharing, screen recordings Siri logs you name it, spent months on it. The only reply I have had since is to await a fix.

To me that says sweet FA and I don’t expect them to fix it if I put my “let’s be realistic” head on.

I think the truth of the matter is if it affected the US language settings it would’ve been dealt with by now but because it only seems to affect, certainly in my experimentation, English UK, Ireland and Australia then they’re not going to give a rats ass about it. They only care when it affects the USA.

 

[Twitter Bloke]

Thanks for your update. Unfortunately it is systemwide for those of us with this particular problem therefore it happens in any application and it’s still very random.

I hope iOS 15 addresses it, but I very much doubt it.

One thing that does give me a glimmer of hope however is according to a video I watched yesterday, iOS 15 doesn’t rely on pinging to Apple‘s servers for dictation, it’s all done on the phone (which is ridiculous it’s never worked like that before) so hopefully that might help.

Re: systemwide problem:

I can make it happen in any app and fix it in any app by turning on/off that 'speech recognition' setting.

It is absolutely categorical in that I have precisely the problem you mention and then cure it by switching off that setting – no matter which app I am in.

N.B. It has to be done in the settings for each app. Eg I just switched off the setting in Outlook's settings and I don't have the problem whereas I left it switched on in Twitter's settings and I still have the problem.

 

[StumpyBloke]

Sorry, my mistake. I see what you mean now. I’ve never noticed that before and will certainly give it a go.

How do you do it for the stock mail, messages and notes apps though? Because I also have the problem in all of those (basically any app whether it’s stock or not that supports dictation). Thanks

Edit: to add, I don’t have the setting in Twitter, Facebook Messenger, Instagram, Word, WhatsApp and whilst I do have the setting in Outlook, it doesn’t seem to do anything anyway.

I wonder if this setting in various apps is more US-centric? I’m in the UK.

 

[0128672]

You have to give apps permission to use Speech Recognition (to send your voice message to Apple for processing) before individual apps will appear in the Privacy > Speech Recognition list. Once they’re in the list, you can disable it for individual apps either in the Speech Recognition list or in the individual app.

If you’re not seeing that app in Speech Recognition or the setting in that individual app’s settings, speech recognition wasn’t enabled for that app.

Edited: I enabled dictation in Twitter and allowed speech recognition (tapping on the keyboard’s mic icon and tapping OK at the prompt to allow it). Then I disabled speech recognition, and am still able to dictate in Twitter. So maybe on your device, it wasn’t enabled in the first place, which explains why you’re not seeing the setting in the apps. Perhaps the thing to do is enable speech recognition for those apps, and then disable it. Seems like the long way around, but maybe that will help.

 

[StumpyBloke]

Thanks for your reply.

You are right about Twitter, as soon as I enabled dictation it asked about speech recognition which can now be disabled within settings. However apps like WhatsApp, Facebook messenger et cetera don’t give me those options even when I’ve done dictation.

 

[0128672]

Thanks for your reply.

You are right about Twitter, as soon as I enabled dictation it asked about speech recognition which can now be disabled within settings. However apps like WhatsApp, Facebook messenger et cetera don’t give me those options even when I’ve done dictation.

And there's guarantee enabling speech recognition and then disabling it for those apps will provide the same fix as Twitter Bloke suggested, but I wonder if you need to disable dictation first, reenable, and then go into those apps to see if the speech recognition prompt appears. Sounds like a lot of work, but maybe it will be worth it.

 

[StumpyBloke]

Just tried that but I still do not get speech recognition option within certain applications. Facebook messenger and WhatsApp being two of them.

 

[StumpyBloke]

Well still exists on latest dev iOS 15 beta 6 and in fact more often than not, after saying "full stop" it now adds a new paragraph. How the hell do Apple screw up the most basic things!!